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Old 24.01.2012, 22:14
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Didn't mean to sound churlish, thanks for the suggestion of looking on Ricardo. I hadn't thought about it for furniture actually.
Actually Ricardo has been amazing for furniture. We bought a 3 piece leather set for 100sfr, one of those really nice kitchen tables with benches for 350sfr (probably close to 5000k new), baby crib, changing table and our wardrobe. Definitely can ahree with the other posters
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Old 24.01.2012, 22:32
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I see ridiculous prices everyday: coffee 4chf. Really? Seriously? If only was it good!
In 1950, it was CHF 1, now it's CHF 2.5-4.

How much has the price of a coffee in the US gone up in the same period, from $0.10 to $2.00, no?

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Old 25.01.2012, 00:58
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

"ever been to a Migros? looks like rationing times in CCCP"

Wow, I always thought Migros have a pretty big selection (especially MMM).
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Old 25.01.2012, 01:31
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

8 ounce glass of Wasser = 5 francs:
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- Still thirsty when finished
- Can get same quality wasser at home
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- Seller worked super hard on pouring it...

1 bottle of Bier = 4 francs...
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- Yep it's definitely pouring it that makes it more valuable

I guess
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Old 25.01.2012, 02:14
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8 ounce glass of Wasser = 5 francs:
Cons:
- Still thirsty when finished
- Can get same quality wasser at home
Pros:
...
- Seller worked super hard on pouring it...

1 bottle of Bier = 4 francs...
Pros:
- Yep it's definitely pouring it that makes it more valuable

I guess
I am not sure on how to de scramble this, but if you are talking about being at a bar, I am quite sure you are aware of the huge expenses it takes to run even a simple bar in Switzerland.

If someone is paid 25 CHF an hour, net, to pour beer, where, say in the states bar tenders almost entirely work on tips for their salary, how can you take issue with the bar or the bar tender when you could just pour it yourself at home? Maybe you aren't from the states, but other countries it's the same. The amount of money the average restaurant pulls in, when it is able to stay afloat is often times around the 1% mark, and that's even after charging you what you think are absurd prices for a bottle of water or beer.

If you have an issue with paying other people more money, but not yourself, then to have a cheaper beer either poured or in a can, then the whole country has to take a pay cut. Lower wages means lower prices at the bar.

I don't ever hear anyone here complaining about how much they get paid, that it's too much though. You want to get 25 an hour minimum wage net, then expect a beer to cost at least 4 CHF, no big deal. You want to pay pesos for a beer then expect to get paid in pesos.

It's that simple.

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Old 25.01.2012, 02:40
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In 1950, it was CHF 1, now it's CHF 2.5-4.

How much has the price of a coffee in the US gone up in the same period, from $0.10 to $2.00, no?

Tom
But you seem to be forgetting the exchange rate changed as well.
In the 1950's the chf:dollar conversion was 4.5:1, now it is 1:1 or less.

Can't be bothered to do the math at this time but I'm some is clever enough to take up the gauntlet.
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Old 25.01.2012, 04:53
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Even with that considered the rate that has gone up, x 20, is higher then in Switzerland. Based on both of your mathematics. Even still the 2 dollar cup'a'Joe, is the Dunkin Donuts rate. Coffee rises once you hit a coffee house or any regular restaurant.

Switzerland coffee prices compared to the rest of Europe though is considerably higher. But a higher coffee means a less insanely priced steak.

The way of the balance.
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Old 25.01.2012, 07:56
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

True... a coffee in Germany is just as expensive, if not more... I think the last coffee I bought in Germany was something like 5euro.
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But you seem to be forgetting the exchange rate changed as well.
In the 1950's the chf:dollar conversion was 4.5:1, now it is 1:1 or less.

Can't be bothered to do the math at this time but I'm some is clever enough to take up the gauntlet.
The exchange rate is irrelevant: i get paid in CHF, I spend my money in CHF.

Fact is, the cost of a cup of coffee here in terms of CHF hasn't changed much in the past 25 years, but has doubled (or worse) in USD terms, due to the USD being a soft currency. Apples and oranges.

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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

I have never really understood this 'complaint'.
Its Switzerland, its expensive, its that simple.
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I have never really understood this 'complaint'.
Its Switzerland, its expensive, its that simple.
True! It's not like people don't know that before they come
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

I buy all my clothes in the United States. Why pay $150 for a pair of Levis when I pay $30. My parents live next to an outlet mall and over Christmas I was able to get two Ralph Lauren shirts for $20 each. In Italy or Switzerland they would have cost around $200-$250.
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True... a coffee in Germany is just as expensive, if not more... I think the last coffee I bought in Germany was something like 5euro.
Where? Last time in Constance I paid €2.
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

We are about to buy a cat - pricing in Germany for the same breed is 400 chf less (30% less). But factoring in transport and time savings would be only around 200 chf. Also, we wanted to have at least opne member of the family wth a Swiss passport.
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Old 25.01.2012, 11:06
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Where? Last time in Constance I paid €2.
Expect 4 - 5 Euro in many ski resorts for a large Coffee, rather more in Paris where you will pay a surcharge to be outside on the pavement.
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We are about to buy a cat - pricing in Germany for the same breed is 400 chf less (30% less). But factoring in transport and time savings would be only around 200 chf. Also, we wanted to have at least opne member of the family wth a Swiss passport.
5 years ago the cat would have been more expensive in CH, the German price is too high!
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Old 25.01.2012, 11:09
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Small jar of marmite in UK: £1.20

Small jar of marmite in the import shop just outside Zug Bahnhof: £7.80 (based on 1.4 CHF/£ exchange).

You've got to really, *REALLY* love marmite...
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

But Marmite is NOT in anayway shape or form a local product - so here considered as a delicacy. Foreign products are always way more expensive. Very few people can afford to live on foreign products without having to adapt to more local stuff.


BTW the price of coffee in CH varies enormously from town to town and K/Canton to K/C. Notoriously more expensive in the German speaking part (never understood why). Here locally it is 2.90. How much is a coffee in Covent Garden or some other posh areas of London these days.


We paid 9.50E for coffee in Italy last year (yes it was St Mark's in Venice) - that does not mean coffee is generally expensive in Italy.
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....Marmite is....considered as a delicacy....
Lol - that's the first time I've heard it called that

(PS - I'm in the 'hater' camp)
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Bag of Marshmallows in the states .85 cents. Here 4.50 chf

Pizza Proscruttio in Italy 5.00 euro Here 21.00 CHF

My Favorite....... Subway 5 dollar foot long in the states = $5 Here 17 CHF (WTF???)

I friend of mine said that in most Swiss restaurants they don't even worry about turning tables because the food is so expensive, they can only have a table sat once in an evening and make a profit.

On the flip side. US wait staff work like dogs turning tables because the food is cheap and therefore restaurants need more customers to turn a profit.
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