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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Was looking recently to buy a new Medela Harmony Manual Pump. In Zurich it costs CHF 90; in the UK the exact same product at Boots/Mothercare is priced at just just GBP 25 or around CHF 41. Ridiculous considering that Medela is a Swiss brand; you would think their products would be cheaper since it is manufactured here.
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Old 04.03.2009, 17:01
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Broadly agree, electronics is competitive here, almost everything else is expensive and you need to shop around and/or import. My better half says luxury clothing can be good value here vs UK. We have bought in Germany and Italy, , diy sauna, skis etc.

Of course CHF strength helps right now... got email today from ebay.ch suggesting I buy lots of stuff in the UK at crazy low price.

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In some high street chains, this is not the case.

I was recently comparing prices in H&M with those for exactly the same items in H&M in Germany, and the prices came down to the same within a margin of about 50 cents.
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Branded products are almost always more expensive in Switzerland also because of the law which forbids parallel imports. This means that a Beiersdorf product (an example quoted earlier) can only be imported into Switzerland by one single source (= the importer appointed by the foreign producer, or its own division). This means of course there's no room for price negotiation as there is no alternative source to buy from.
Some companies (like H&M) don't abuse this situation and keep prices broadly the same (still gives them an advantage because of the VAT being lower here).
Swiss politics has been discussing abolishing this law for years and AFAIK limited changes will be introduced. The fact that forbidding import by other than the designated sole source is a policy advocated even by the so-called liberal party here is illustrative about the way things are done here...
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Old 04.03.2009, 20:17
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Only because I was looking into this again recently...

http://www.1800contacts.com/lens/soflens-toric.htm
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http://www.nettolinsen.ch/en/Toric-l...ly-lenses.html

thats $30 per box against 70chfs ($60) for the identical product (all come out of a factory in Ireland apparently)

x2 for each eye x12 for a year... save ... well you can work it out
Well if people are comparing prices between Switzerland and other countries they should compare the cheapest price in Switzerland with the cheapest price abroad.

If one compares an expensive shop in Switzerland with the cheapest shop abroad then there is bound to be a huge difference. Same thing if you compare for example a cheap shop in Germany with an expensive shop in Germany.

For example:
http://www.discountlens.ch/soflens%2...oflens%20toric

That's already CHF 12.- less and you are not obliged to buy it in bulk.
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Old 04.03.2009, 20:32
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I noticed all the 70% OFF sales right after Christmas. Made me realize how large the mark-ups are on all those shoes and clothes...
Keep in mind that 70% Off doesn't always mean they're still making a profit, breaking even, or that they aren't actually taking a strategic loss — which is sometimes done by retailers for tax and/or inventory purposes (better to take a 50% net loss on the remainder of a lot, get rid of it and write it off now, than risk getting less — or nothing — later on).

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Was looking recently to buy a new Medela Harmony Manual Pump. In Zurich it costs CHF 90; in the UK the exact same product at Boots/Mothercare is priced at just just GBP 25 or around CHF 41. Ridiculous considering that Medela is a Swiss brand; you would think their products would be cheaper since it is manufactured here.
It may be a subsidized product. I don't know all the details, or which products are involved, but my Swiss friends once complained to me that they were paying a higher overall price for certain Swiss-made products (like wine) than I was, so the products could be exported at lower, more competitive prices.
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Please don't get me started. I come from Malaysia where meat per kilo can be as cheap as a few ringgit (less than ten) (local currency) and etc...

BUT like someone said earlier, a lower standard of living also means a lower income bracket. I used to earn like RM3,500 a month (gross). A car loan costs anywhere from RM400 to RM600, a housing loan can go up to RM1,500 - both of which already is more than half of my salary. Saving used to be very hard for me because of the low wage coupled with rising cost of basic things like food, rental, electricity, petrol and so forth. So for me, I think it's a trade-off.

Also while some things may be cheaper, you cannot be sure of the quality. Items from Switzerland and most of Europe, especially things like baby strollers and so forth, almost always cost more than the so-called cheaper non-European brands AND parents back at home actually are willing to buy a baby stroller that is imported from, lets say, Italy.

When I first arrived, this was one of those few culture shock things...but now, you could say that I'm beginning to accept the system as it is. In Malaysia, there would be no way for me and my hubby to save on one salary compared to now simply because people in Malaysia aren't paid well, there is little to no welfare provided for retrenchment or retirement unless you work with the government and well, it's just different.
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I know this is probably an old topic, but it retains the power to shock. The wife and I have seen a large piece of furniture we wish to buy, from a particular furniture maker.

Price in Germany: 2,500 Euros (3,700 CHF or thereabouts).

Price in Switzerland: 9,000 CHF!!!!

It's currently looking like: Hire a van for 2 days, stay overnight in a fancy hotel, pay the customs, and still save 4,000 CHF!

Anyone else seen any other barmy examples?

Cheers

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I saw a barmy example, making a comparison between German and Swiss prices for an all-stainless-steel spatula (for use with a frying pan). In Biberach an der Riss, where I am moving to, the cheapest I could find there was €11 and that was on a market stall. Mostly the price was €12 in all the other places that sold them. Here, in Basel, a very good quality one was 7.90 SFr in the Marktplatz Coop, which I then bought.
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Old 06.03.2009, 11:06
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Disneyland paris....cheaper if u book from uk as compared to from switzerland...(even after conversion)...beats me..
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Disneyland paris....cheaper if u book from uk as compared to from switzerland...(even after conversion)...beats me..
Along those same lines:

Train ticket Zurich > Graz > Zurich ... cheaper on the oebb.at Web site than on sbb.ch or at the Zurich HB. Beats me.
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Old 06.03.2009, 11:21
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Talking about outrageous prices... We went to Zivilstandsamt for a pre-wedding ceremony interview and we had to pay a fee of CHF1000 to process the paperwork. Also every single document issued by the local authorities e.g. proof of residence in Gemeinde CHF25, which is still ok, but birth certificate issued by embassy is CHF75 and passport renewal in embassy is CHF185 and other sundries. It all adds up and it costs a fortune at the end of the day. Sometimes I wish, if I only had it done prior coming to Switzerland.

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In some high street chains, this is not the case.

I was recently comparing prices in H&M with those for exactly the same items in H&M in Germany, and the prices came down to the same within a margin of about 50 cents.
Look again: They have "multi country" price tags at H&M, Zara and others. I just bought some clothes and have the tag, so I checked:
Eurozone: 99 Euros,
Sweden: 999 SEK,
Switzerland: 199 CHF

Makes more than 50 cents discrepancy
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Talking about outrageous prices... We went to Zivilstandsamt for a pre-wedding ceremony interview and we had to pay a fee of CHF1000 to process the paperwork.
Don't get me started on the Zivilstandesamt...
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Talking about outrageous prices... We went to Zivilstandsamt for a pre-wedding ceremony interview and we had to pay a fee of CHF1000 to process the paperwork. Also every single document issued by the local authorities e.g. proof of residence in Gemeinde CHF25, which is still ok, but birth certificate issued by embassy is CHF75 and passport renewal in embassy is CHF185 and other sundries. It all adds up and it costs a fortune at the end of the day. Sometimes I wish, if I only had it done prior coming to Switzerland.
Yup. Low taxes are only a small part of the equation. At the end of the day, the government always has the stronger vacuum cleaner to suck money out of your wallet, whether they do it upfront with taxes or later with fees.
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Don't get me started on the Zivilstandesamt...
Anyway, why am I moaning? All in all, it is a wedding related expenses which happens only once in a lifetime (hopefully) so I should be happy and shouldn't think along these lines...
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Anyway, why am I moaning? All in all, it is a wedding related expenses which happens only once in a lifetime (hopefully) so I should be happy and shouldn't think along these lines...
Still bloody robbery, though.
And congratulations! This is where Mrs Boris and myself got married:
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When I was moving to my new apartment and needed to move some furniture from storage (one very small truck) Crown Relocations wanted 3000CHF... I told them in no uncertain terms where to go. Found another "ghetto" relocation company. Talked them down to 1000CHF. Utter nonsense. Would have cost 150CHF in Canada.

Restaurant prices are absurd too. Not for high end ones (like Rochat etc) those are only a little overpriced. No, every day restaurants. Pizzerias etc.

A crappy pizza in Fribourg is 25CHF. Amazing one in Italy is 6 Euros. The REGULAR restaurants are so expensive here... I'd rather pay a little more and go to a gourmet one.

Why should a steak in some Fondue palce cost 40CHF, when at a gourmet restaurant it's 45CHF?
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Restaurant prices are absurd too. Not for high end ones (like Rochat etc) those are only a little overpriced. No, every day restaurants. Pizzerias etc.
Agreed.
Esspecially wine. I thought UK restaurants had a laugh with wine margins. The Swiss make them look like bloody charities.
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Another example: black folding umbrellas.

Asda, UK: GBP 1.99.

Globus (or pretty much any shop), Switzerland: CHF 25. I don't think I've ever seen an umbrella in Switzerland for under CHF 25.

Another example: rectangular pillows... GBP 3.99 in M&S, and (it seems) at least CHF 50 in Zurich...
You can get cheap umbrellas in H&M. CHF 15 if I recall. Mind you the quality's terrible.
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I hope you all know that this problem is currently being tackled by the Competition ministry and they will soon recognize the "Cassis de Dijon"(sp) principle which means they prices will come down due to the advent of parallel imports from the EU.
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