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Old 11.03.2012, 15:27
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Nah sorry, I'm not convinced that's the whole story. I'm sure it accounts for some truth, but not 11.50 for 10 tabs.
Someone's having a laugh.
I suspect the overall profitability of the shop is not high. If you think it's really money for old rope why not invest all your money in a pharmacy. In any case I have bought them for less in ZH than you paid, there are plenty of generics, just ask for the cheapest.

Nobody forces anybody to buy anything, the fact that the purchase went ahead implies that it was better to pay 11.50 than not have them! The other thing to bear in mind is the exchange rate makes the UK look cheap, 5 years ago with the £ worth 2.60 Switzerland was cheaper for many things.
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Old 11.03.2012, 16:35
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When I was in Winterthur recently I went to a Pharmacy to buy some vitamin C, which was kept behind the counter. The assistant produced a bog standard product and asked for CHF16! I politely declined ...
See, this re-enforces my suspicions. I do buy Vit C sometimes & get a tube of the effervescent ones from COOP for about 5/6 francs.
I'm well aware of COOP's buying power & all that stuff, but it still seems ludicrous that a Pharmacy wants another 10/11 francs for essentially the same product. It really does appear a 'because we can' situation.

I've said it before, but I really think independent Swiss retail is in for a nasty, and frankly, a reasonably deserved wake up call over the next decade.

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If you think it's really money for old rope why not invest all your money in a pharmacy.
Bit of a silly point, tbh.

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the fact that the purchase went ahead implies that it was better to pay 11.50 than not have them!
The same could be said of paying a ransom.
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Old 11.03.2012, 18:54
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Bit of a silly point, tbh.



The same could be said of paying a ransom.
Not really, you think you have spotted a business oportunity, I think you will be dissapointed! Complaining & doing nothing about it is also silly.

Come to think of it I probably would not pay a ramsom for my OH
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Old 11.03.2012, 20:45
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Can anyone remind me of the reason for the absurd price of ibuprofen here?

I don't use it myself, so I forgot about the bonkers price, but my sister was here last week (from the UK where 16 tabs can cost as little as 20p) and had a sports injury play up a bit & came back from the Apotheke in a state of shock having been lifted of 11.50 for 10 tablets.

She'd be interested in a genuine explanation ;-)
It might have something to do with the fact that these same Apotheke's also sell Homeopathic remedies for "real" money. When you are selling dilutions, i.e. water that may or may not have a molecule of something else it, for many francs, then it stands to reason that something that actually contains real active ingredients would have to cost a whole lot more.

I do recall having to ask for most of the items that I would actually consider pharmaceuticals at the counter, whereas everything else, i.e. things that don't do much of anything, were available for direct inspection and browsing all around the rest of the store.

As far as the implications of a living wage, or the contrary, it seems odd to me that it would be less expensive to let the government take up the slack, i.e. the UK, than offering a fair deal to every one, as some are inferring occurs in the CH. After all, VAT is included in the price, or is the difference in income and property taxes offsetting the savings? It would be an interesting question for someone to do an "honest" study on, to see if there is a definitive answer.

Of course, it does make for a good political talking point if no one really knows the answer, then no one is really "wrong".
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Strange how this living wage justification is always trotted out whenever food or medicines are mentioned (i.e. goods with large price differential to the UK), but it's conveniently forgotten when it comes to electronics or clothes shops (where prices are similar). Unsurprisingly, I've noticed very little difference between these sectors' wages, here or in the UK.

The prices in these areas has far more to do with having more protectionism and import tariffs/profiteering for the former category. There's no evidence the relatively higher consumer price of paracetamol compared to a toaster is being passed on as extra wages for the pharmacist shop assistant compared to the electricals' shop assistant.
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. There's no evidence the relatively higher consumer price of paracetamol compared to a toaster is being passed on as extra wages for the pharmacist shop assistant compared to the electricals' shop assistant.
No evidence? Haha. Right. You mean no other evidence than the pharmacist making 3x the hourly wage of the electrical shop assistant.
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Old 11.03.2012, 22:13
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No evidence? Haha. Right. You mean no other evidence than the pharmacist making 3x the hourly wage of the electrical shop assistant.
Not exactly equivalent responsibilities and roles. But OK then, do you really earn that much more stacking shelves in Migros than InterDiscount?
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In any case I have bought them for less in ZH than you paid, there are plenty of generics, just ask for the cheapest.
Well, last time I bought Ibuprofen I did just that. The cheapest generic was 9.90 instead of 11.50. What a joke!

The next joke was that I wanted to stock up on them and I was told that they're not supposed to sell me more than one 10-pack at a time! WTF?!?
After explaining that it doesn't really make sense because the next pharmacy was about 100 meters away and I could just buy another pack there she finally gave in and at least agreed to sell me a second pack. Whoa! Totally ridiculous...
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Well, last time I bought Ibuprofen I did just that. The cheapest generic was 9.90 instead of 11.50. What a joke!

The next joke was that I wanted to stock up on them and I was told that they're not supposed to sell me more than one 10-pack at a time! WTF?!?
After explaining that it doesn't really make sense because the next pharmacy was about 100 meters away and I could just buy another pack there she finally gave in and at least agreed to sell me a second pack. Whoa! Totally ridiculous...
Weird, was in London grabbed three 16 tablets packs of regular aspirin and said they could only sell me two. Clerk realizing I was American asked if the same in US. I told her as much as I want to buy except for a few things like pseudophedrine. Prices here are indeed insane. 100 generic ibuprofen in US, $2, ironically at Aldi.
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Old 12.03.2012, 00:53
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

The UK (and I assume Switzerland) wants you to spend your last few hours, before committing suicide, walking to chemists.
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yep last time i was in uk i wanted some contac, they wouldnt let me buy more than 1 box, she couldnt see the irony when i asked whats stopping me going to every single pharmacy and buying 1 packet... useless
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The UK (and I assume Switzerland) wants you to spend your last few hours, before committing suicide, walking to chemists.
I hard of one person who decided to commit suicide by taking an overdose of aspirin but after the first two he felt much better.
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Old 12.03.2012, 12:25
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Strange how this living wage justification is always trotted out whenever food or medicines are mentioned (i.e. goods with large price differential to the UK), but it's conveniently forgotten when it comes to electronics or clothes shops (where prices are similar). Unsurprisingly, I've noticed very little difference between these sectors' wages, here or in the UK.

The prices in these areas has far more to do with having more protectionism and import tariffs/profiteering for the former category. There's no evidence the relatively higher consumer price of paracetamol compared to a toaster is being passed on as extra wages for the pharmacist shop assistant compared to the electricals' shop assistant.
I suspect the turnover of an electronics shop is 30 to 100 times greater than a pharmacy of the same size.
Can you imagine how many packs of ibrufen you would have to sell a month at 50cents to make enough profit to pay the assistant 4000 a month every month!
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Old 12.03.2012, 12:35
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I suspect the turnover of an electronics shop is 30 to 100 times greater than a pharmacy of the same size.
Can you imagine how many packs of ibrufen you would have to sell a month at 50cents to make enough profit to pay the assistant 4000 a month every month!
Hmmm... Perhaps if a few went out of business, there would be a realistic number of pharmacies. They seems to rival hairdressers and shoe shops for their fecundity (though nowhere near as much as in France).
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Well I ordered a pair of Levis 501 from USA. Total cost with delivery charges EURO 48.00.
Here they would cost more ( internet purchase from Swiss company or German) and no guarantee that they are the same quality as the USA made jeans. Only in the retail shops here can one be sure that the quality is genuine. And then Levis 501 would cost around CHF120.

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I know this is probably an old topic, but it retains the power to shock. The wife and I have seen a large piece of furniture we wish to buy, from a particular furniture maker.

Price in Germany: 2,500 Euros (3,700 CHF or thereabouts).

Price in Switzerland: 9,000 CHF!!!!

It's currently looking like: Hire a van for 2 days, stay overnight in a fancy hotel, pay the customs, and still save 4,000 CHF!

Anyone else seen any other barmy examples?

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People earn alot more here than in Germany-so that partly explains higher prices.
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I know this is probably an old topic, but it retains the power to shock. The wife and I have seen a large piece of furniture we wish to buy, from a particular furniture maker.

Price in Germany: 2,500 Euros (3,700 CHF or thereabouts).

Price in Switzerland: 9,000 CHF!!!!

It's currently looking like: Hire a van for 2 days, stay overnight in a fancy hotel, pay the customs, and still save 4,000 CHF!

Anyone else seen any other barmy examples?

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Well I ordered a pair of Levis 501 from USA. Total cost with delivery charges EURO 48.00.
Here they would cost more ( internet purchase from Swiss company or German) and no guarantee that they are the same quality as the USA made jeans. Only in the retail shops here can one be sure that the quality is genuine. And then Levis 501 would cost around CHF120.
Levy's stopped producing their jeans in the US roughly in 2003.
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OK. But the US levis are maybe different quality to what one buy's here on internet from a local company.
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OK. But the US levis are maybe different quality to what one buy's here on internet from a local company.
That certainly could be. However, I don't wear Levy's so I cannot tell you for sure. Large brand companies do have to adhere to their set of quality compliance. The main issue in Europe though is that it is somewhat legal to procure these items through the grey market and therefore, you're more likely to purchase inferior quality goods here and especially in Switzerland, as Swiss business don't need to adhere to EU norms.
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World radio Switerland had a report about the swiss prices
they said that salary, realestate account for part of it and part is people are just willing to put up with higher prices. My swiss husband always buy the swiss animal products because he voted for non industrialized farming which costs more. We had the opertunity to save 2k on a sofa from germany but he preferred purchasing from a Swiss shop instead for 6k instead of 4k and did not care about the money. I am getting used to this idea of supporting the life one has in CH and like it more every day.
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