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Old 13.03.2009, 14:50
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Another latest example from a few weeks ago:

Adidas Adistar Control 5 running shoe
  • CHF 260 at Ryffel Running in Uster
  • USD 54 with free shipping within U.S. at amazon.com
Small difference, ey?
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Old 13.03.2009, 14:59
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

but the swiss retailers make sure the Chinese sweat shops don't have air conditioning - that is worth paying for
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Old 15.03.2009, 12:57
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If you live here and benefit from a higher salary compared to the US or the EU, then you should consume also locally, because the local shops and workers also need to earn a good salary for a good living, buying from outside undermines the local economy and indirectly also yours.
Well, I totally agree with that statement as long as we are talking about a Swiss product which is actually made in Switzerland.

However, if a product is made abroad, imported into Switzerland and sold with a 100% (or higher) markup, the quoted statement is invalid IMHO. If I buy from the importer at inflated prices I do not support the local economy but just some greedy b@stard who's ripping of his fellow countrymen.

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Old 15.03.2009, 13:05
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Well, I totally agree with that statement as long as we are talking about a Swiss product which is actually made in Switzerland.

However, if a product is made abroad, imported it into Switzerland and sold with a 100% (or higher) markup, the quoted statement is invalid IMHO. If I buy from the importer at inflated prices I do not support the local economy but just some greedy b@stard who's ripping of his fellow countrymen.
Thanks, I agree wholeheartedly.

... and even some Swiss products can be bought cheaper in Germany (in spite of the much higher VAT), then re-imported into Swissieland. Rip-off prevention 101 for me.
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Old 16.03.2009, 08:12
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

We have to remember that cheaper is not always better. Sure in Switzerland we are all seen as Cash cows.

I just hope that with the reduction of food prices we don't see a reduction in quality too.
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Old 16.03.2009, 09:32
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Everyone goes on about the quality of the fresh fruit and vegetables here- I don't see any discernable difference between produce bought in the markets in Sydney, or the markets in Oerlikon- to be entirely honest.

I'm wondering if I'm missing something.
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Old 16.03.2009, 12:27
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Everyone goes on about the quality of the fresh fruit and vegetables here- I don't see any discernable difference between produce bought in the markets in Sydney, or the markets in Oerlikon- to be entirely honest.

I'm wondering if I'm missing something.
I know I am definitely missing something. Every time I shop for produce here, I find Food that has gone bad. Last Friday at a Coop, I found moldy oranges, decomposing bell peppers, and every single avocado was over ripe to the point that they would have consisted of brown mush. Who do they honestly think would buy it? It really makes me wonder about the quality of their meats from their butcher shop.
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Most of the fruits and vegetables are being picked half ripe, put into boxes, then transported over quite a few hundred kilometers. How can anyone imagine this stuff doesn't rot. Look at those lovely strawberries. I would love to eat them but half of it just won't make it even into my plate so !!!

As everything always undergoes quality tests, I think some of those conservations products on fruits & veggies aren't allowed anymore, so now we end up having more bad products on our shelves. Ridiculous.
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Old 16.03.2009, 15:00
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

This is an interesting question to me....I heard it constantly in my six years in Switzerland and started to believe it but question whether it is more a Swiss myth to justify the high prices....i do know from a meat standpoint the animals are more protected in CH compared to factory farmed stuff you get in the US if you don't search out other products.
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Everyone goes on about the quality of the fresh fruit and vegetables here- I don't see any discernable difference between produce bought in the markets in Sydney, or the markets in Oerlikon- to be entirely honest.
That's because people because are comparing the quality of produce they get in supermarkets in Australia (Coles, Woolies, etc - though we used to get ours at Harris' Markets in Broadway), to the produce in Coop, Migros, etc.

Eg: If I buy a prepacked bag of carrots in Coop, it's pretty much a given that a few of them will already be moldy and limp, and that even the best of them will only be suitable for cooking within a day or two ("Bio" stuff is even worse). Back home (especially in major cities like Sydney or Brisbane), any supermarket trying shennanigans like that would be out of business in a matter of weeks.

This is before even getting into the frustratingly inconsistent supply. Eg: sometimes they have fresh corn, sometimes they don't, often you never even know whether that particular places sells what you're after and happens to be out of shelf stock, or doesn't sell it at all.
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Old 16.03.2009, 15:42
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Ibuprofen (600 g) bought in Spain: 3 CHF for 40 tablets (0.075 CHF/tablet)

Ibuprofen (400 g) bought in Switzerland: 10 CHF for 10 tablets (1 CHF/tablet)

Both generica.

Switzerland 13 times!!!! more expensive.

Can anyone beat that procentual difference?
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Old 16.03.2009, 16:24
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Yeah, I won't even TALK about the vegetables to be bought from Migros/Coop et al. I actually find a lot of the Denner vegetables to be fresher than Migros- and at half the price! This could just be my local branch though. (Thalwil)

If I happen to need something I forgot to get at the markets, I usually check there before I go to the bigger supermarkets.

But the best quality produce from the Market is about as good as average Flemington market produce. Maybe once summer kicks into gear, and there's more local produce that'll change.

I hope so!
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Old 16.03.2009, 16:31
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

I have found Aldi veggies to be quite good in quality, and I think the limited selection and high turnover contributes to the freshness.
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Ibuprofen (600 g) bought in Spain: 3 CHF for 40 tablets (0.075 CHF/tablet)

Ibuprofen (400 g) bought in Switzerland: 10 CHF for 10 tablets (1 CHF/tablet)

Both generica.

Switzerland 13 times!!!! more expensive.

Can anyone beat that procentual difference?
I am completely with you on this one, I buy a pack of Ibuprofen in Prague for 0.7 chf for 20 tablets. I am not sure what it is, percentually, but here it is a total rip off.

Plus, I like to avoid the interrogation I get here in the Pharmacy when I am getting Ibuprofen or any painkiller, for that matter of fact. They always ask me couple of times if I know what I am doing and why am I in need of such a strong painkiller...It makes me laugh. I hope people in customer services here will give more credit to customers soon. I actually use this painkiller about once every two years, Paracethamol does nothing for me.

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Ibuprofen (600 g) bought in Spain: 3 CHF for 40 tablets (0.075 CHF/tablet)

Ibuprofen (400 g) bought in Switzerland: 10 CHF for 10 tablets (1 CHF/tablet)

Both generica.

Switzerland 13 times!!!! more expensive.
Ok, then just drive to Spain and back to buy a package of those tablets. When you get back then tell me which one costed 13 times more.
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Ok, then just drive to Spain and back to buy a package of those tablets. When you get back then tell me which one costed 13 times more.
surely the swiss pharmacist did not drive himself to spain to collect those tablets. So what is his excuse to sell it for 13 times the price?
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So what is his excuse to sell it for 13 times the price?
Monopoly and price fixing to name 2
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So what is his excuse to sell it for 13 times the price?
He doesn't need an excuse - the Swiss pharmacy business is still strictly regulated unlike many EU countries. Deregulation in the UK brought down the price of most common drugs.... but it also saw the end of many corner pahrmacies.
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

@Velofellow: I experienced the same.

I found a nice sofa from the Dutch furniture maker Riviera Maison, in Breda in Netherlands asked and the sofa "124990" costed €1'900 (ca 3'000 CHF) if I recall correctly.

I searched on the Riviera Maison website for an agent in Switzerland and found "Imperial Interiors", called them and they came back, for exactly the same sofa (I gave the article number) with a price of CHF6'900! Imperial Interiors are in the Nuschelerstrasse, which should already have given a hint as to the price indication.
Also looked and found a dealer just on the other side of the Bodensee, but figured in the end it's just too much work for a sofa so abandoned the whole project.

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@Velofellow: I experienced the same.

I found a nice sofa from the Dutch furniture maker Riviera Maison, in Breda in Netherlands asked and the sofa "124990" costed €1'900 (ca 3'000 CHF) if I recall correctly.

I searched on the Riviera Maison website for an agent in Switzerland and found "Imperial Interiors", called them and they came back, for exactly the same sofa (I gave the article number) with a price of CHF6'900! Imperial Interiors are in the Nuschelerstrasse, which should already have given a hint as to the price indication.
Also looked and found a dealer just on the other side of the Bodensee, but figured in the end it's just too much work for a sofa so abandoned the whole project.

So the best thing to do is obviously :
I'll collect some orders via English Forum and arrange a few students to drive a few couches in rental trucks from NL to Zurich !
I don't know, but I'd be hesitant to buy a sofa from a company that charges that much per piece, but can't figure out that there is no apostrophe in sofas.
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