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Old 17.03.2009, 08:05
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

How difficult is it to start an import business for, say, sofas? Clearly there do seem to be margins available. (And putting a Swiss flag on stuff will just make people pay even more for the very same product).
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Old 20.03.2009, 22:40
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I don't know, but I'd be hesitant to buy a sofa from a company that charges that much per piece, but can't figure out that there is no apostrophe in sofas.
That's easy: in the Dutch language, for words ending with a vowel, the plural is formed by adding an apostrophe before the s. (eg kado's, auto's).
Sofa is also a Dutch word and the plural is in Dutch sofa's. Looks like they just didn't bother to have a native English speaker spell-check the website. Pitty though that the things from Riviera Maison here in Switzerland are so crazily expensive, in NL it's really a mid-range priced range of furniture, nothing exotic. Here it looks aimed at Zurich goldcoast households. I read all about this called "price targetting" in quite an intersting book really, "The Underground Economist" -- basically saying that often companies just price goods/services at what people are willing to pay, much more than what it's really worth.

Oh, found one more crazily overpriced item: 4 passphoto-pictures for CHF59 at Foto Ganz in Zurich! In any other country these cost about €15.
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

apparently a Strawberry joghurt "travels" about 9'ooo kilometers until it ends up a finished product on the shelf. that sure most be costly , when you think about where each thing of that joghurt comes from, ... the actual product in itself costs hardly anything.

Sometimes I just would want to exchange products with my neighbor, you know like what grows in his garden against what I bake, bread, cookies. Go get some milk from the nearby farmer, do my own joghurts, butter and then hopp over to the Brewery, give them .... well what would they want in exchange for a nice beer of theirs ?! ...
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

In fact Switzerland is only the second most expensive country in the world according to the Economist's Big Mac Index http://www.economist.com/markets/ind...ry_id=13055650. Norway takes top place with its billions in oil revenues while CH had to settle for a close second with its billions in foreign bank deposits.

The only real question is how to limit(avoid) the import taxes and postage costs on imported items. Any suggestions or web links would be much appreciated.
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Old 23.03.2009, 12:40
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apparently a Strawberry joghurt "travels" about 9'ooo kilometers until it ends up a finished product on the shelf. that sure most be costly , when you think about where each thing of that joghurt comes from, ... the actual product in itself costs hardly anything.
Nine thousand kilometers? Do they count the distance the cow walks on the meadows before getting milked?
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Old 23.03.2009, 13:25
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apparently a Strawberry joghurt "travels" about 9'ooo kilometers until it ends up a finished product on the shelf. that sure most be costly , when you think about where each thing of that joghurt comes from, ... the actual product in itself costs hardly anything.
But we're not in the U.S.

I guess it depends on where the strawberries comes from (sometimes from China), but a yogurt made and bought locally will really not travel that far.
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Old 23.03.2009, 20:27
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In fact Switzerland is only the second most expensive country in the world according to the Economist's Big Mac Index http://www.economist.com/markets/ind...ry_id=13055650. Norway takes top place with its billions in oil revenues while CH had to settle for a close second with its billions in foreign bank deposits.

The only real question is how to limit(avoid) the import taxes and postage costs on imported items. Any suggestions or web links would be much appreciated.
There was one trick that can sometimes be used... have the stuff shipped to your office.. if you're lucky, either the company will pay or, more likely if you work in a big company, the process of recovering the cash from the individual buried in a mess of buildings is too much trouble... not that I'd ever do such a thing of course...
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Old 24.03.2009, 13:31
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I know I am definitely missing something. Every time I shop for produce here, I find Food that has gone bad. Last Friday at a Coop, I found moldy oranges, decomposing bell peppers, and every single avocado was over ripe to the point that they would have consisted of brown mush. Who do they honestly think would buy it? It really makes me wonder about the quality of their meats from their butcher shop.
I'm sorry but i've had a problem with the food since the moment I got here. My Swiss colleagues take the **** out of me all the time for saying I miss British food and that I think the quality of meat and veg in our supermarkets is way better, but the sad fact is that it IS by some consierable margin.

Meat in Migros and Co-op is poor quality and massively over-priced... I bought a joint of beef that worked out around £13 and turned out to be one of the poorest, fattiest joints I have ever eaten. Lamb (my favourite meat) prices are ludicrous and even a small chicken is 11 CHF.

Bacon is basically a few shreds of meat that has been strategically attached to slavers of fat, and sausages are probably the poorest I have ever eaten, tasteless and with a fair bit of fat/gristle in them.

Added to this the poor quality and high price of food in lunch canteens and it really works out to a big downside for me. The food isn't a patch compared to what i'm used to in the UK. I'm a meat-eating carnivore who used to feed on steaks and joints like there was no tommorrow, now i'm lucky if I have something more than every fortnight. My diet has really gone downhill here.

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Ibuprofen (600 g) bought in Spain: 3 CHF for 40 tablets (0.075 CHF/tablet)

Ibuprofen (400 g) bought in Switzerland: 10 CHF for 10 tablets (1 CHF/tablet)

Both generica.

Switzerland 13 times!!!! more expensive.

Can anyone beat that procentual difference?
Heh yeah this country is a complete joke with regards to prices for simple cosmetic and pharmaceutical products. I got stung in the exact same way when I first came, my jaw hit the floor when she told me the price.

I kinf of hope Switzerland one day joins the Euro just so we get some regulation that will help stop all the ridiculous artificially inflated pricing that gets attached to 90% of everything. It leaves a bitter taste, and is one of the only things that spoils this country in my opinion.
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Old 24.03.2009, 13:48
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

I am still shocked at the cost of many things - most of them relate to the new baby - the cost of formula is awful - approx 6 quid in the uk - but 29CHF here....and clothing! I am hoping to do a trip back to the uk to stock up on basics
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

When I first got here I needed a car but didn't have my permit so I registered the car in my partner's name. Now I have my permit I transferred the car over to my name. Same plates, just a new registration document. I went down to the STVA to do it in person. In all it took 2 minutes, literally. The easiest thing I've done since I've been here. And today I got the bill...

125chf for the transfer and
41chf for the new reg document (which is just a grey bit of paper).

This seems way overpriced to me. What does it cover? The original registration of the car was cheaper, and you got brand new registration plates to show for it too!
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Old 24.03.2009, 14:03
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However, if a product is made abroad, imported into Switzerland and sold with a 100% (or higher) markup.

I've always wondered WHO is marking it up? Has anyone seen the breakdown of these markups? What are the precentages that go to the Fed, Canton, and the cartels?
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Old 24.03.2009, 18:17
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

This thread makes me happy that I'll be living near the French border. I can already see myself undertaking weekly shopping expeditions to the Eurozone.

I think my trips back to the US will consist of leaving with a pair of near-empty suitcases then returning to CH with the maximum allowed weight!
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Old 24.03.2009, 18:19
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This thread makes me happy that I'll be living near the French border. I can already see myself undertaking weekly shopping expeditions to the Eurozone.

I think my trips back to the US will consist of leaving with a pair of near-empty suitcases then returning to CH with the maximum allowed weight!
My family and I do the fortnightly shopping trip to Germany combined with the annual trip to the U.S. It is nice to leave for the States with 4 empty bags and return with 8 loaded ones knowing you'd even be saving money if you'd pay excess baggage.
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Old 24.03.2009, 18:25
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

What are typical excess baggage charges? The best method I've found for shipping from the US is with USPS and it'll run about $3.30/lb for a 70lb box. I'm wondering how a max weight suitcase compares.

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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Go to England, Everything is been sold cheap. In fact London Hotel bookings have soared as the exchange rates dive bombed and europeans are holidaying and taking full suitcases home with them.

P.s. M & S steak and Ale pie ,,, Priceless. Now you cannot get them over here. Or can you ???
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Old 24.03.2009, 18:28
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What are typical excess baggage charges? The best method I've found for shipping from the US is with USPS and it'll run about $3.30/lb for a 70lb box. I'm wondering how a max weight suitcase compares.

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Lufthansa Cargo shipped a bunch of boxes airport-to-airport (DFW to ZRH) for me at roughly $1.50 / lb. You have to pick them up at the destination airport yourself and clear customs, which IMHO is a small hassle and amounts to big savings.

Excess baggage is something like 1% of the full fare per kg ... but I am probably wrong. Check the airline's Web site for that info. I've usually been able to go over the limit by a few kg for each piece, and having 9 instead of 8 when 4 pax are traveling has also been tolerated. Friendly behavior helps, cute kids always win.

Some airlines will also allow you to check an extra suitcase as cargo, but I don't really remember how that works.
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What are typical excess baggage charges?
It depends on the airline. Some (eg: BA) charge a flat "per piece" fee, whereas others charge by weight (usually at rates that can quickly result in high blood pressure).

When we first moved to Switzerland, one of the reasons we flew BA (from Australia) was because our 5 extra suitcases only cost about about AU$50ea (up to 32kg per bag). Compared to something like the AU$25 per kilogram that Qantas was going to charge, it was practically free.
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Has anyone see the price of a duvet in this country?
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Has anyone see the price of a duvet in this country?
Indeed. Fortunately I was holding it in front of me at the time, so I had something soft to land on.
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Has anyone see the price of a duvet in this country?
We love our Ikea, doubble dawn, bought in Prague for 80chf, same dawn product here is about 40% more expensive at Ikea Aubonne. It is so nice to get a good, cheap comforter and chuck it by the time it gets infested with mites, in 15-20years?

I think it is impossible to protect a duvet from mites, in the long run, no matter how expensive and high Swiss quality one you get. The professional dry cleaning scares me, I think it leaves chemical products in the comforter.

We have another big one, acrylic filling for the summer, also great, bought here in Ikea Aubonne, for 100 chf? I feel like a cheapskate but it is a really nice thing. I am tired of the snobbery here, quite often the price does not equate the quality.
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