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Old 19.09.2012, 23:29
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe retail price maintenance (price-fixing by the manufacturer) is illegal in Switzerland. They can provide a recommended retail price but cannot enforce it; retailers are free to discount (or increase) the price as the market dictates.
Generally speaking, it is illegal, yet still widely practiced and a huge grey area among Swiss retailers, as they are hugely dependent on brands to attract clientele. Often times, brands impose a suggestive retail price which has to be achieved and threaten the retailer with stopping the supply if they don't adhere to it. Here is an interesting article I found online regarding this topic.
http://www.blick.ch/news/liste-der-a...-id118086.html
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Old 19.09.2012, 23:44
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Once you've worn sneakers from the buttocks of an African refugee you'll never want to wear any other sort again.
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Old 19.09.2012, 23:47
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Adidas from Addis Ababa. It does have a, umm, ring to it.
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Old 21.09.2012, 22:15
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What some of you people don't understand is, that oftentimes, brands dictate the retail price and the store does not have anything to do with it.
I understand this very well, but as a consumer I don't care about such subtleties. E.g. when someone is asking me to pay CHF 199 for a pair of Asian-made running shoes that sell for EUR 99.90 in Germany or $89.95 in the US I don't really care whether the manufacturer, the importer, the wholesaler or the retailer is trying to rip me off. I just won't buy at the Swiss price. Period.
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Old 21.09.2012, 23:27
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

I am not surprised! When I went to Germany (although by the border) to buy furniture they would take care of the taxes and also deliver the furniture. Did you ask the shop about this? Maybe it will be easier for you.
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Old 21.09.2012, 23:41
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

I'll just buy a suitcase full of Nike Air Max Sneakers (the retro kind that the kids are wearing) next time I go home to the US and sell'em for here 110 CHF apiece.


That'll teach 'em...
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Old 21.09.2012, 23:59
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So I'm browsing through an H&M magazine by mistake (I have to say that right ) and they have the prices both in chf and eur. Random excerpt:
- leggings: 9.95eur, 19.90chf
- armband: 14eur, 24.90chf
- pullover: 49.95eur, 79.90chf
- rock (don't know what that is) 39.95eur, 69.90chf
- jacket 59.95eur, 99chf
- etc

I guess this is a "hidden" ad for going to shop in Germany?
Well, interesting is to see that a wholesaler near München has the far better prices than a comparable company near Basel. And H.... in Germany is NOT particularily cheap. And also if you make a currency adjustment of 20% (to correct the overvaluation of the CHF) the result still is in favour H... (München) over Ar.... (Basel). To stay competitive with a clientele who for a good percentage is coming over from Germany, you have to be flexible. Right next Thursday, a load of British products on two pallets will leave Reigate/Surrey by consolidated truck. That stuff allows to stay in business with both a German clientele and a rather critical Swiss clientele. We, as some British suppliers of photographic stuff have raised the prices of Fuji products, most likely will get the stuff from a supplier in Hamburg who sells at less than 80% of his competiors in Guernsey/C.I. and in München. We in fact just three days ago re-stocked with supplies we got from the USA. Relatively cheap due to the bizarre currency-rates, but more important is the choice of the US-American market. An amazing difference between Britain and the USA is that while U.K.-packaging-material tends to be crap and is decaying already on arrival, the USA packaging-material usually is splendid and can be re-used. Commercially irrelevant but charming is that many US-suppliers include nice greeting cards with personal greetings and even at times small presents. For example, a colleague got a load of perfumery products, and the suppliers included a nice small bottle of perfumery of the same line free of charge, with a nice greeting card ! We found it a nice gesture and his wife was very very happy

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Generally speaking, it is illegal, yet still widely practiced and a huge grey area among Swiss retailers, as they are hugely dependent on brands to attract clientele. Often times, brands impose a suggestive retail price which has to be achieved and threaten the retailer with stopping the supply if they don't adhere to it. Here is an interesting article I found online regarding this topic.
http://www.blick.ch/news/liste-der-a...-id118086.html
You speak about the UVP (unverbindlicher Verkaufs-Preis) . But this UVP is what many retailers simply take over. The UVP DOES make sense in case of the "Buchzentrum" as to purchase directly is expensive due to infrastructural costs and complicated procedures. Bad for Swiss retailers is that the German postal service regards Switzerland as OVERSEAS Worse is that many German suppliers are unable to deal with deliveries to outside the E.U.

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I understand this very well, but as a consumer I don't care about such subtleties. E.g. when someone is asking me to pay CHF 199 for a pair of Asian-made running shoes that sell for EUR 99.90 in Germany or $89.95 in the US I don't really care whether the manufacturer, the importer, the wholesaler or the retailer is trying to rip me off. I just won't buy at the Swiss price. Period.
Sure, but I hope that you purchase the stuff if on sale at CHF 99.--

AND, never hesitate to talk. Once, a chap of German origin we know well, lectured our salesman about the fact that Mr L. in his shop in Oberglatt sold the same thing 10% more cheaply and did not allow our salesman the time to contact his superiors, but rushed out and bought the desired item overthere. We heard about the matter later and reacted market-oriented-wise and reduced our prices on the whole range of the stuff in question by some 15% (net-profit margin gone). The man for some reasons had to come over to us the next morning, and with embarassment noticed that the thing of the day before suddenly was cheaper by CHF 5.-- than at Mr Lang. He complained but we told him clearly that it was our absolute freedom to react to the market !

Finally there is NO "the Swiss price" . Period

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I'll just buy a suitcase full of Nike Air Max Sneakers (the retro kind that the kids are wearing) next time I go home to the US and sell'em for here 110 CHF apiece.


That'll teach 'em...
But be careful. They may be on sale at Dosenbach for CHF 92.--

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Old 30.10.2012, 21:16
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it was just in the news:

www.preisbarometer.ch

a website that compares prices CH to D (and other countries)
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Old 31.10.2012, 09:19
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

I love Swiss junk mail some offers and products give me more of a laugh than 20Min. We received one for an invitation to service lawnmowers, chainsaws ect, lawnmower service from 180 to 250Chuffs, umm how long does it take to change .8litre of oil and 1 spark plug? or electric chainsaw service 40 to 70Chuffs (chain sharpening and parts are extra) I am still wondering what (apart from washing it) they could do as part of a service, I was a mechanic in another lifetime and still I scratch my head in wonder.
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

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So I'm browsing through an H&M magazine by mistake (I have to say that right ) and they have the prices both in chf and eur. Random excerpt:
- leggings: 9.95eur, 19.90chf
- armband: 14eur, 24.90chf
- pullover: 49.95eur, 79.90chf
- rock (don't know what that is) 39.95eur, 69.90chf
- jacket 59.95eur, 99chf
- etc

I guess this is a "hidden" ad for going to shop in Germany?
I saw a pullover at a department store here in Canada with the following price tag:

160CHF !!!
69EUR
90CDN$
(No US prices, Euro-cut pullover likely not of interest to Americans..lol)
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I allways do that, for sports, musical equipement etc.

Buy it from the US or Germany, get it shipped.

All in all, including shipping and taxes is cheaper than here, and in many cases you can get things that are not avaliable locally and if you want it locally it would involve your local shop to order it specially and then have to pay full retail for it.

But on the other hand, I am thinking more and more that was once told me by the swiss is about right.

"If you live here and benefit from a higher salary compared to the US or the EU, then you should consume also locally, because the local shops and workers also need to earn a good salary for a good living, buying from outside undermines the local economy and indirectly also yours."
Then they should charge a reasonable price, if you're lucky enough to find what you're looking for. Prices for food, yes the same as the US. Price to eat a good meal out, 4 times the price. Quality of life = stay at home and cook, at least the food will be good!
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Old 08.11.2012, 16:03
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

When it comes to clothing and personal items, a lot of is just an inflated mark-up for the Swiss market set by the producer. My mother-in-law owns a clothing store in a small town, not a big franchise store but privately owned. She sells jeans, jackets, sweaters, stuff like that. They are German brand names, and she buys the ware in Zurich from the respective manufacturers. The brands have a specific price that they will sell their clothing items to buyers in Switzerland, and a completely different (lower) rate for buyers in Germany and France, etc. So the manufacturer is taking the bulk of the profit, not the store owner.

My MIL has no choice but to have much higher prices than a similar store in Germany, because she also has to make a profit and she had to pay more for the ware. She has 1 other employee in the store besides herself, and she has to pay a lot of social benefits and social securities to her. On top of that is the much higher price of renting the store location in Switzerland, and everything else.

It's frustrating, but I understand why her prices are what they are, she has to make a living from it. So it's better to support those independent stores.

However it makes me so mad that chain retailers like H&M, Esprit, etc are really charging extortionate prices. Sure, it should be a bit more because the cost of business is higher here, but they are going above and beyond. Which is why I generally only buy at those stores only outside of Switzerland, I don't see why I should line their pockets.
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Never seen that big of a difference anywhere - mind sharing the names of the 2 places in question?
I think it is called Daylight Robbery
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Old 08.11.2012, 16:22
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I saw a pullover at a department store here in Canada with the following price tag:

160CHF !!!
69EUR
90CDN$
(No US prices, Euro-cut pullover likely not of interest to Americans..lol)
More likely size was too small.
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

I accidently broke a small glass lampshade during a work training course at a local hotel. (Walked into it). They charged my company 800 CHF to replace it!!!

Shocking.
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Smacks of blatent exploitation
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I accidently broke a small glass lampshade during a work training course at a local hotel. (Walked into it). They charged my company 800 CHF to replace it!!!

Shocking.
Probably not "it", but "all lampshades in the hotel"
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

just changed my TV package, I have asked to remove the sport channels as they cost me 7 chf a month and I don't watch them.
The change will be effective from May 2013 (1 year after the subscription) BUT i will pay 49.90 monthly instead of 45.90...wtf!
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I accidently broke a small glass lampshade during a work training course at a local hotel. (Walked into it). They charged my company 800 CHF to replace it!!!

Shocking.
Knowing of course that your company would be able to claim it from thge insurance.
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I accidently broke a small glass lampshade during a work training course at a local hotel. (Walked into it). They charged my company 800 CHF to replace it!!!

Shocking.
4.95 for the lampshade + 795 labour and admin.

You should have claimed a cut to the head and sued them for having a dangerous lampshade.

You think they'd have added utility charges if you'd managed to electocute yourself too?
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