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Old 24.03.2009, 19:04
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

What this country needs is a branch of John Lewis

Or Target

Or both
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Hi as a self employed english guy living here, people should realise that comparing prices outside of switzerland is not really worth it, cos it is expensive here.
Dont forget that the retailer has higher renting, electric, heating and servicing costs, staff earn 3 times the salary, so its really not surprising that we cant sell the stuff at the same prices as the UK..............
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Old 24.03.2009, 20:11
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that we cant sell the stuff at the same prices as the UK..............
True, but Switzerland is not an island
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Old 24.03.2009, 20:32
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True, but Switzerland is not an island
Sometimes I wonder!
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Old 24.03.2009, 21:55
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True, but Switzerland is not an island
Yep. It's a bank vault. Even more enclosed and insulated...
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Glad someone dare to state that salaries are amongst the highest in Europe... Life is expensive, but salaries are (or should be!) adjusted accordingly. Proportional ;-)
So far, I'm happy here and not complaining !
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Old 24.03.2009, 22:51
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I'd still like to learn what accounts for the doubling in price. Does anyone have an educated guess?
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Old 24.03.2009, 23:53
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I'd still like to learn what accounts for the doubling in price. Does anyone have an educated guess?
Does buying power count? I mean in terms of the market size
Switzerland -- 7'500'000
Germany -- 83'000'000
France -- 60'000'000
"UK" -- 61'000'000

Obviously a chain with a bigger target market would buy at better conditions at prices, no? So the solution would be to eliminate Migros and Coop AND then you have to bring the outside chains to charge the same for their products as in the neighbouring countries... not to mark up their prices because people can afford it.....
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Old 25.03.2009, 04:36
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I'd still like to learn what accounts for the doubling in price. Does anyone have an educated guess?
Protectionist legislation that is subtle enough for CH to declare itself a state that supports free trade yet effective enough to separate its residents from a considerable amount of money in the name of "preserving Swiss industry."

Lifting some of the restrictions on parallel imports would be a good starting point.

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Old 25.03.2009, 10:53
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I've always wondered WHO is marking it up? Has anyone seen the breakdown of these markups? What are the precentages that go to the Fed, Canton, and the cartels?
Have you ever shipped anything with the Swiss postal service OUTSIDE of the country? Check the prices online and I am sure you'll see a good percentage of the fees there.
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Old 25.03.2009, 11:03
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Have you ever shipped anything with the Swiss postal service OUTSIDE of the country? Check the prices online and I am sure you'll see a good percentage of the fees there.
So shipping costs is one. But there are probably others.



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Protectionist legislation that is subtle enough for CH to declare itself as a state that supports free trade yet effective enough to separate its residents from a considerable amount of money in the name of "preserving Swiss industry."

Lifting some of the restrictions on parallel imports would be a good starting point.
So restricting competition is another. Do you know which legislations and restrictions?
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Old 25.03.2009, 12:19
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Import regulations are a contributing factor. The EU facilitates trading among member states. Some politicians in Switzerland push for one-sided lowering of the trade barriers by unilaterally introducing the "cassis de dijon principle". I hope you can get some information in English with this keyword. Basically it means that products that have been approved in the EU are automatically good for sale in Switzerland, too. Some key product segments like medication and foodstuffs will likely be exempt though. This is linked to the political power of the domestic pharma sector and agricultural producers. It's however partially justified objectively with medications where Switzerland has its own federal office which until recently must've been had quite an international reputation. They are losing it because delays in the application process are becoming inacceptable.

Different salary costs affect products that are work intensive.

Lacking price consciousness is another factor in some specific product categories like cell phone plans. Swiss customers don't change phone companies often.
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Old 25.03.2009, 12:48
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What could be the bright side of all this is that there a appears to be buffer that can be exploited, should we spiral into hyper-inflation. But hopefully, price for goods don't spiral before salaries do, though unlikely.
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Old 25.03.2009, 19:18
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So shipping costs is one. But there are probably others.
One more: Swiss mentality. Many people don't bother to shop around and compare prices, even for big ticket items. They just buy their stuff where it's convenient or "where they always buy".
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Old 25.03.2009, 20:18
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One more: Swiss mentality. Many people don't bother to shop around and compare prices, even for big ticket items. They just buy their stuff where it's convenient or "where they always buy".
Agreed. I'm shocked that the locals seem so apathetic toward high prices. I asked about trips to cross-border shopping destinations and they just kind of shrugged their shoulders and said "yes, some people do this at times."

When/if I move to Vaud, I plan to make cimcumventing Swiss retailers my second favorite hobby.
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. They just buy their stuff where it's convenient
REALLY?
GIVE THEM OUR DETAILS!!
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Old 25.03.2009, 20:29
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another example... I've had in my hands a Swiss tennis magazine MRS TENNIS today with prices 3-4 fold more than what I pay ordering online from abroad.
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Old 25.03.2009, 20:59
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I know I am definitely missing something. Every time I shop for produce here, I find Food that has gone bad. Last Friday at a Coop, I found moldy oranges, decomposing bell peppers, and every single avocado was over ripe to the point that they would have consisted of brown mush. Who do they honestly think would buy it? It really makes me wonder about the quality of their meats from their butcher shop.
same here, produce bought in Coop and Migros goes bad before I get it in the house.
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goes bad before I get it in the house.
wow, how far do you live from the shops?

seriously though, I hope you return it to the stores, point at the expiry date and shrug your shoulders...

I have found it worse in the smaller shops.

Better yet, contact Migros or Coop head office and email them the store details.
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Old 25.03.2009, 21:22
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

So I guess I am not the only one here traveling to the US with empty luggage?
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