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Old 12.04.2009, 14:12
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Agreed.
Esspecially wine. I thought UK restaurants had a laugh with wine margins. The Swiss make them look like bloody charities.
Ohhh... I just moved to CH from Ita. I'm a red wine fan I my Mrs and I would always order a bottle when we went to a restaurant. I would never pay more than 15euro for a bottle of good quality wine (in local stores the same bottle would cost 5 euro tops). Here... 50chf for some dog **** .


Sigh. Guess I'll be travelling to Ita on a regular basis!
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Im now back in the UK for a week and I cannot BELIEVE how cheap meat is... 10 quid for a leg of lamb that I literally could club someone to death with. A tray of huge chicken breasts for 10 quid. I'm probably going to put on about 3 kilos this week simply due to gorging myself on meat like some kind of rabid dog. Add to this proper middle bacon and i'm like a kid in a candy store... and I know as soon as I go back to Zurich i'll miss it like crazy.
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Old 13.04.2009, 16:52
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Im now back in the UK for a week and I cannot BELIEVE how cheap meat is... 10 quid for a leg of lamb that I literally could club someone to death with. A tray of huge chicken breasts for 10 quid. .
Ever wondered why you can get a tray of huge chicken breasts for ten quid?

Forgetting animal welfare for a moment, you do realise that giant chickens don't naturally actually exist, don't you?

What you are getting is a tray of breasts from chickens with an additive-rich diet. The breasts are then pumped full of water (it used to be a water-pork mixture but that may have been banned).

You can get decent chicken in the U.K. but the price is comparable to Switzerland and this sort of chicken is not what you are describing.

P.S. I hope the weather in the U.K. is as good as it is here in Switzerland for Easter
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Old 13.04.2009, 17:21
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In the UK? 3 quid, but my dad got two free, thrown in with the bracket he bought for his TV

Often the difference beggars belief, but I don't mind paying for quality. A Swiss guy once told me that he wasn't rich enough to buy cheap stuff, or, put another way, 'stingy man pay twice' and there's a lot of truth in that.

What I do appreciate here is the customer service. I've nearly always got my money back when I wanted, and when I didn't, they were always so incredibly nice and professional about it, I ended up agreeing with them! A far cry from France might I say!
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Ever wondered why you can get a tray of huge chicken breasts for ten quid?

Forgetting animal welfare for a moment, you do realise that giant chickens don't naturally actually exist, don't you?

What you are getting is a tray of breasts from chickens with an additive-rich diet. The breasts are then pumped full of water (it used to be a water-pork mixture but that may have been banned).

You can get decent chicken in the U.K. but the price is comparable to Switzerland and this sort of chicken is not what you are describing.

P.S. I hope the weather in the U.K. is as good as it is here in Switzerland for Easter
Well when i say "huge", i was more referring to the amount rather than the individual size. It was hardly The Incredible Breast or anything. I just meant the amount you can get works out at a price ratio so superior to Switzerland )even the "best breast" at a butchers is way cheaper) that there really is no excuse for how much it costs over there.

Meat is cheaper in the UK because it is far more plentiful and the economy is such that everywhere is having deals galore... it doesn't mean everything you're eating is ****.
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Here in the US, even the highest grade of meats are cheaper than in CH. I have yet to hear a plausible and justifiable excuse for Switzerland's consumer hostility.
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Old 14.04.2009, 10:15
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I would never pay more than 15euro for a bottle of good quality wine (in local stores the same bottle would cost 5 euro tops). Here... 50chf for some dog **** .
You don't want people to enjoy themselves when dining do you? It is a serious affair and too much wine might make diners noisy. One decalitre each and decorum is preserved.
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Old 14.04.2009, 10:46
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Meat is the one area where I think the Swiss have it right in terms of pricing. Meat should be expensive, in my opinion. The entire process, from raising an animal to slaughter, to storage, to selling- the entire thing should be really expensive- to ensure that the animal is treated well when alive, as humanely as possible, through the slaughtering process, and the quality control is very very strict.

Cheap meat always makes me wonder about the process leading to that antiseptic looking package getting there. Still, having seen recently seen some vile looking Chicken on aktion in Migros- I don't know if the price is actually related to quality at all.
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You don't want people to enjoy themselves when dining do you? It is a serious affair and too much wine might make diners noisy. One decalitre each and decorum is preserved.
Because everyone is in hospital getting their livers transplanted?

For the hard of thinking...

Deca = 10 *
Deci = 0.1 *

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Old 14.04.2009, 12:17
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

reading all this makes me want to open here a US furniture store like Crate&Barrell. Decent quality, great style, good prices. If you got the pricing to be close to what it is in US or lower by negotiating a good discount I bet ya it would blow most of furniture stores here out of business.

I think most who go cross border shoppiung are Germans and other foreigners. I do not mind to do it and I wish I did it more often. BTW, I've found prices for US brands to be of decent pricing at the Foxtown Outlet mall..I spent just about the amount of money I would at a US Outlet for Ralph Lauren cloting
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Because everyone is in hospital getting their livers transplanted?

For the hard of thinking...

Deca = 10 *
Deci = 0.1 *

Cheers

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Thank you for educating me. I must admit that dl is a unit of measurement I have only encountered (at least since chemistry lessons at school many moons ago) on Swiss wine menus and in my naivete did not know that there were two potential spelling options.
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Still in the UK and just bought two beautifully fitting designer suits, pure wool, with two pairs of trousers for 120 quid per set. Try doing that in Zurich.
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Still in the UK and just bought two beautifully fitting designer suits, pure wool, with two pairs of trousers for 120 quid per set. Try doing that in Zurich.
I know how you feel. We were passing through over the weekend visiting some friends and picked up an excellent king-size "four seasons" quilt/duvet/doona/whatever-you-want-to-call-it plus two covers (w/pillow slips) for a couple of hundred pounds. Well worth having to cart it to Prague and back.

Going to grab a Wii when we pass back through Heathrow on the way home next weekend as well. Primarily to get everything in English, but the ~100CHF saved is also a nice bonus.
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Meat is the one area where I think the Swiss have it right in terms of pricing. Meat should be expensive, in my opinion. The entire process, from raising an animal to slaughter, to storage, to selling- the entire thing should be really expensive- to ensure that the animal is treated well when alive, as humanely as possible, through the slaughtering process, and the quality control is very very strict.
Indeed. We should all have to eat cake, instead.

There are numerous countries around the world where animal welfare is quite well policed that still produce meat at prices dramatically lower than Switzerland. The USA is, as always, a bit of an anomaly when it comes to comparing prices because everything is cheaper there, but even top-notch beef from cows who have been fed beer, massaged by virgins with Mozart playing in the background, and allowed to roam freely, is notably cheaper than the cheapest of Swiss beef.
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I know how you feel. We were passing through over the weekend visiting some friends and picked up an excellent king-size "four seasons" quilt/duvet/doona/whatever-you-want-to-call-it plus two covers (w/pillow slips) for a couple of hundred pounds. Well worth having to cart it to Prague and back.

Going to grab a Wii when we pass back through Heathrow on the way home next weekend as well. Primarily to get everything in English, but the ~100CHF saved is also a nice bonus.
Yeah I don't blame you... I do almost ALL my clothes shopping in the UK online, then get my dad to send it over to me or deliver it personally on his bi-monthly-ish visits. The only thing I don't mind buying in Switzerland is the computer hardware, as in many cases it's the same or even cheaper than online prices at places like Digi-tec etc.

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Indeed. We should all have to eat cake, instead.

There are numerous countries around the world where animal welfare is quite well policed that still produce meat at prices dramatically lower than Switzerland. The USA is, as always, a bit of an anomaly when it comes to comparing prices because everything is cheaper there, but even top-notch beef from cows who have been fed beer, massaged by virgins with Mozart playing in the background, and allowed to roam freely, is notably cheaper than the cheapest of Swiss beef.
Yeah I agree, there's frankly NO excuse for the swiss meat pricing... and it's all down to how unregulated the pricing system is here, as well as it not being as large-scale for farming as the UK is, which inevitably drives down prices. But as for th eperson who posted: "meat should be expensive"... what a load of twoddle!

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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

I don't think the price of meat is expensive in Switzerland. It's only that you can't buy reasonably priced meat because the likes of Coop and Migros has a corner on the market and they pretty much charge what they want. Also, you can only bring small quantities of meat over the border so they've got you locked tight in.

Ever thought about how they can support all those tiny little Coops and Migros? Mark up, that's how.

How do I know meat prices aren't really that expensive? Coop have sales on them all the time. I often get double discounted meat as I live next to a super Coop - Meat that is on Aktion and then further reduced 25-50% as their display date is near. Since I don't believe Coop is selling anything at a lost, it means their mark-up is anywhere from 2.5-3.5x display price.

If the Swiss competition commission is serious about increasing consumer's purchasing power, all they have to do is raise the tax-free amount of meat you can bring back to 10kg or so.

Eat meat cos it's tasty!
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Old 14.04.2009, 20:42
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Your logic seems a tad befuddled there (unless i'm reading it wrongly)... while I accept meat is not expensive ot make and put into the shops... as you say the mark-up is atrocious, hence why it IS still considered expensive. And not all the cop-ops and migros have sales on... even the big one near me in Sihl City only has the odd "reasonable" deal. The smaller places... forget it.

As a carnivore, this hurts.
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....it's a tongue-in-cheek post. What I'm saying is that it's expensive because of the mark-up, not because of the supplier costs.
Yes, it sucks that meat is expensive here.

There are Lidls now in Zurich. Go there. They are having Aktions galore on mince. http://www.lidl.ch/ch/home_de.nsf/pa...eisch_gemischt
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Problem is Lidl is miles away form me and I have no car... so can't really do big shops.

EDIT - Wow they are fricken cheap though... I hope they force down prices over time with those deals.
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My theory on meat prices is that because it is so expensive, many people buy it sparingly. The result is that a lot of it has to be thrown out because no one bought it. The result of this is that prices have to be high on the meat that does sell to make it profitable. The result of this is that many people buy it sparingly. The result is that a lot of it has to be thrown out because no one bought it. The result of this is that prices have to be high on the meat that does sell to make it profitable. The result of this is that many people buy it sparingly.The result is that a lot of it has to be thrown out because no one bought it. The result of this is that prices have to be high on the meat that does sell to make it profitable. The result of this is that many people buy it sparingly.
(p.s.; I hope nobody read this entire paragraph.)

I believe the term for this is "Viscous Cycle".
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