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Old 12.04.2010, 12:23
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Ah the mysteries of the internet I could very well be an eskimo with a net connection from my igloo and have never set a foot inside switzerland.....or I could be the dude in one of his many guises....
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Old 12.04.2010, 12:28
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Highly qualified professionals entering the Swiss labor market or already working in Switzerland and thinking about changing jobs after having occupied the same employment for a long period time, may ask themselves, ‘what am I worth now on the Swiss market?’


Below, we provide some benchmark figures, which of course depend strongly on the sector of the economy one is working in and the level of post occupied.


The average monthly salary in Switzerland (all sectors taken together) is slightly more than CHF 5,600, roughly CHF 68,000 annually.
For entry level executives, the range is roughly from CHF 4500 (for the restaurant and hotel field – notoriously underpaid) to about CHF 9000/month (for example in the PTT).
For upper level executives, the average monthly salary is usually between CHF 5300 (hotel/restaurant) and CHF 19,000 (Pharmaceutical, Tobacco industry, Finance…)
Salaries in Switzerland by City


It is a serious mistake to simply convert monies and compare with whichever country you are coming from.
For a given job position, you can only compare salaries after you have taken into account such things as: cost of living in the country, and salary structure.
In Switzerland, the ration of net salary to gross salary is much more advanatageous than in the majority of EU countries. For example, the ratio is approximately 15% in Switzerland against 24% in France. Obviously, as such, for equal salaries in the to countries one’s net salary would be much higher in Switzerland.
In Switzerland, the social charges related to health insurance are often entirely at the expense of the employee (many large companies do offer health insurance as a benefit but they are not required to do so by law).
Salaries in Switzerland Grouped by Degree


You must therefore yourself, independently of your salary, pay for your obligatory health insurance.
To complete your evaluation, you might consult salary statistics from the Swiss government website pertaining in the sector in which you work, or the job function which interests you, or post an inquiry to this website,
Consider as well that salaries vary greatly in Switzerland from canton to canton, with Zurich and Geneva and Basel having the highest salaries, and the highest costs of living. Ticino, the Italian speaking part of Switzerland, has, on the other hand, relatively low salaries. However, many people appreciate the lifestyle in Ticino.
Other popular Swiss cities are Bern (one of the first Swiss cities to have a Starbucks) , Lausanne, Neuchatel, Yverdon, and Zug.
Salaries in Switzerland Grouped by Sector of the Economy



some info i found.
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Old 12.04.2010, 12:32
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some info i found.
how recent is this?
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Old 12.04.2010, 12:41
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how recent is this?
a couple of years old and nominal wage inflation has been around the 2% mark.
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Old 12.04.2010, 12:47
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60k is average? Some people seriously do give the impression that anything below 100k will have you living in squalor.
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Looking at previous table I am poor
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Looking at previous table I am poor
Yes I picked the wrong profession too.
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Old 12.04.2010, 12:50
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Looking at previous table I am poor
I could tell you were poor from your avatar

Some poor girl in mismatched clothing, with unkempt raggedy hair, hawking strawberries on the street corner...that's poverty if I ever saw it.
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Old 12.04.2010, 12:53
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Re: YES its enough!!!

I don't see why you guys get riled up and have to groan and give bad rep to someone for asking questions pertinent to budget/lifestyle.

Those are exactly the people who need the kind of information this forum can give. Peopls who are deciding if its convenient or not to move from abroad for that kind of money.

120K is not such an extraordinary and poor-offending salary in Switzerland... it is quite standard for some industries and specialized profesionals.
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60k is average? Some people seriously do give the impression that anything below 100k will have you living in squalor.
Yup, also known as "Ex-pat bubble syndrome", where one is otherwise detached from reality, and though an inflated wage has forgotten what the other 95% of people in this world actually live like.
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I don't see why you guys get riled up and have to groan and give bad rep to someone for asking questions pertinent to budget/lifestyle.

Those are exactly the people who need the kind of information this forum can give. Peopls who are deciding if its convenient or not to move from abroad for that kind of money.

120K is not such an extraordinary and poor-offending salary in Switzerland... it is quite standard for some industries and specialized profesionals.
I do not think anybody is annoyed that people need the information. But when I was thinking about leaving Switzerland last year once (when I was considering an offer abroad), guess what: I was able to search the EF equivalent in that country and found hundreds of threads with all the information I was looking for.

I could have of course simply started a new thread with the 101th time the same question. But that would just be rude and lazy, wouldn't it?
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Old 12.04.2010, 13:09
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Yup, also known as "Ex-pat bubble syndrome", where one is otherwise detached from reality, and though an inflated wage has forgotten what the other 95% of people in this world actually live like.
I think you could say the same of many people on a 60K annual salary mate. It's all always relative...
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I don't see why you guys get riled up and have to groan and give bad rep to someone for asking questions pertinent to budget/lifestyle.

Those are exactly the people who need the kind of information this forum can give. Peopls who are deciding if its convenient or not to move from abroad for that kind of money.

120K is not such an extraordinary and poor-offending salary in Switzerland... it is quite standard for some industries and specialized profesionals.
agreed.

I don't understand why some of you think that people asking salary question is to flash /show off than really want to know the tie to life style, expenses. I would think this would be the very minority if it is the case.

Financial evaluation is surely very important especially when it is to do with moving aboard, and especially it involves family and children. Yes, one could always look at research in internet and government figures but as I said, since this could be such a big decision for some people, isn't it better to get BOTH objective numbers (from web) and personal views/experience (from EF where most of us have fresh experience). When a big decision has to be made, one will try getting as much information as possible, exhausting all options so that he won't be regret about that.

When I first arrived switzerland, I had zero clue how to live here after getting stuck so many times by not able to speak French. I was so excited to find EF earlier and got a lot of useful information here. Might be we could be a bit more tolerant for subject like this?

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Old 12.04.2010, 13:21
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I think you could say the same of many people on a 60K annual salary mate. It's all always relative...

You know when someone adds 'mate' to the end they really mean business.


Or are you really mates?
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I get $ 50K per hit, no questions. Discretion and performance guaranteed. Oh yeah, and no tax.
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Old 12.04.2010, 13:24
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You know when someone adds 'mate' to the end they really mean business.


Or are you really mates?
I'm not sure I've even met the lad, I think I might know who it is from drinks night though. I'll let you know who it is when someone slogs me at the next meet.
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I do not think anybody is annoyed that people need the information. But when I was thinking about leaving Switzerland last year once (when I was considering an offer abroad), guess what: I was able to search the EF equivalent in that country and found hundreds of threads with all the information I was looking for.

I could have of course simply started a new thread with the 101th time the same question. But that would just be rude and lazy, wouldn't it?
Well when Treverus finishes his MBA he is going to be earning at least 129k chuffs. I think on that kind of money he should be hiring out Talacker for the night rather than just treating us to a few pitchers for filling out his survey.
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Well when Treverus finishes his MBA he is going to be earning at least 129k chuffs. I think on that kind of money he should be hiring out Talacker for the night rather than just treating us to a few pitchers for filling out his survey.
Ok, you do really have a problem to imagine me with an MBA, do you?

Offer: If you get me a job that pays 129k or more, I will pay you more than two pitchers. Deal?
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