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Re: The Hang- a great Swiss invention

I think it's the emperors new clothes. There is plenty of music out there which already sounds like that device. Looks like a good money making scheme.
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Old 26.02.2015, 10:17
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Strange name to give it ..... even in DE it translates to slope or hillside, which is only vaguely representative of the shape; but maybe something a bit more applicable and imaginative could have been found?

Unless, of course, you know different ......
It's the Bernese for "hand".

And the plural of Hang is Hanghang, in case you were wondering.
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Old 26.02.2015, 10:24
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It's the Bernese for "hand".

And the plural of Hang is Hanghang, in case you were wondering.
Not convinced ... but will give the benefit of the doubt

My guess would be that it was invented for a marching gugle band, and the player had to hang it round his neck.
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Old 26.02.2015, 10:32
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There is plenty of music out there which already sounds like that device.
Yes, but it was the Hang which set the tone (pun intended). It took years of development to achieve the right steel-hardening process which gives the Hang its particular resonance patterns.
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Old 26.02.2015, 10:44
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I think it's the emperors new clothes. There is plenty of music out there which already sounds like that device. Looks like a good money making scheme.
It's not always about the sound, it's often the interaction with instrument that's the most important thing

Sure, I could probably sit down for a couple of hours with an FM synth or a physical modelling synth and come up with a patch which sounded pretty similar, but then I'd only have the sound, not the interaction, and it's often the interaction that defines what you get out of the instrument.
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Re: The Hang- a great Swiss invention

It sounds very nice and is very clever but I'm not sure I could listen to it for a prolonged period. It all gets a bit 'samey' after a while.
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Never heard of this before. Are they all played by hipsters?
Well the guy we heard play the Hang in Luzern- for the first time- looked more like a bank manager, actually- short hair, very 'normal' and in his late forties perhaps.

Must say I much prefer Daniel's beaming smile and dreads

Which instrument has a similar sound MidfieldGeneral? The reason it blew my mind and took my heart, was because I'd never heard anything like it. The harp perhaps, which is hugely difficult to learn and also to transport. BTW I'd love to hear someone play Philiip Glass's 'Metamorphosis' on the hang (normally the harp). I love the simplicity of the hang- how easily it can be taken around- and also the vibrations, which to some extent reminds of Tibetan healing bowls. They produce very few, by hand and by very skilled people, themselves I believe. They do not want to go into mass production and lose the unique qualities- so select who they sell to, good on them. I've met so many painters, sculptors and other artists who have to sell to people they don't like, to make a living, investors who not only know nothing about art, but more importantly don't even like or appreciate what they buy. And they hate it- and wish they could only sell to people who'd love what they produce.

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Old 26.02.2015, 11:20
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It's not always about the sound, it's often the interaction with instrument that's the most important thing

Sure, I could probably sit down for a couple of hours with an FM synth or a physical modelling synth and come up with a patch which sounded pretty similar, but then I'd only have the sound, not the interaction, and it's often the interaction that defines what you get out of the instrument.
Good point. It's the manufacturers restrictions that make me suspicious. Anyway sorry I don't mean to derail the thread as if the hang gives people pleasure then that's cool
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Old 26.02.2015, 11:49
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In those hats?
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Good point. It's the manufacturers restrictions that make me suspicious.
They started out with the idea of creating a new instrument for posterity. After about 15 years of research into metallurgy and acoustics, and thousands of prototype instruments, they finally succeeded in getting the sound they wanted. All their instruments are made by hand, and they are all unique. They didn't only have to design the instrument; they also had to develop the manufacturing and tuning techniques, none of which existed before. After all that effort, I think they deserve to give them or sell them to whoever they want.
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They started out with the idea of creating a new instrument for posterity. After about 15 years of research into metallurgy and acoustics, and thousands of prototype instruments, they finally succeeded in getting the sound they wanted. All their instruments are made by hand, and they are all unique. They didn't only have to design the instrument; they also had to develop the manufacturing and tuning techniques, none of which existed before. After all that effort, I think they deserve to give them or sell them to whoever they want.
Then it's more like a patented tool than a musical instrument? I wasn't going to Post here again but you dragged me back
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Old 26.02.2015, 21:28
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Then it's more like a patented tool than a musical instrument? I wasn't going to Post here again but you dragged me back
No, they want them to be used to make music, not to be an ornament.

If you have a business with limited production facilities for a desired musical product then you have a few options in terms of how you sell it.

1) Raise the price to astronomical levels so that then only those who can afford it can buy it. Downside is that it looks good on the wall of rich people's houses, but nobody is playing it.

2) First come first served. Ok, seems fair, but with this method the truth is that the majority of them will be left gathering dust in much the same way a lot of guitars end up gathering dust, and as a result put those who can really make use of them on an endless waiting list

3) Selectively sell to musicians who really want to use them, and will use them.

Number 3 is by far the best option for all concerned IMO.
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Old 26.02.2015, 21:32
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Ah, you couldn't resist!

Well, the patent is so that they can keep the marauding hordes of quick-buck-seekers at bay - people who are eager to mass-produce crap copies which would damage the reputation of the Hang. For the same reason, the word Hang is protected by a trademark, so only a real Hang made down on the banks of the Aare in Bern can be called a Hang.
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Re: The Hang- a great Swiss invention

Wow - must be really sorry times if I missed *this* thread.
I've been aching for a Hang for a lifetime. I still have their phone # somewhere. Tried calling them many times and never got through. I played one once, think it was tuned to D Dorian. As Slaphead said some posts ago, it's all about the interaction, the physicality, the vibrations that you feel in your legs. and of course the Tone (in the six stringed world that would be "Mojo").
Out of sheer frustration I purchased a Roland Handsonic unit and hooked it up to a synth and programmed something that sounded similar. But no.
The Hang is unique.
I still want one.
Anyone selling?...
¿ Please ?

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