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Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH

Hi all,

where would one find in or around Zürich or as CH mailorder best quality dry aged beef for home cooking like it is offered by Lobels or Peter Luger in their mailorder butcher shops in the US? This is what i mean (for those who don't know what i'm looking for):

http://www.lobels.com/store/main/item.asp?item=5
http://www.peterluger.com/ourmeats.cfm

Jelmoli and Globus have decent enough ordinary US Ribeyes, but i fail to find a source for the top quality dry aged meat that makes Peter Luger's and other steakhouse visits so memorable.

Anyone knowing where / how to source this from here?
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Re: Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH (Züri preferred)

You won't find anything even remotely Lugeresque on this side of the pond.

Have a look at this post/thread for some like-minded meat eaters.

Goodman Steakhouse coming to Zürich
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Re: Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH (Züri preferred)

I have done some more googling, and i am prepared to go through the steps required to dry age my steak at home with this http://drybagsteak.com/ . Where would i find then the best source for USDA Prime graded whole ribeye roasts? I mean, apart from jelmoli or globus? And possibly at a better price?
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Re: Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH (Züri preferred)

You could try Metzgerei Mark, Obergasse 22, Chur

They have a huge selection of dried meats

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Re: Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH (Züri preferred)

No, that's something altogether different! Dry-aged beef means raw meat (steaks) which have been hung up aged for a month or so. Then the dried and moldy bits are cut off and steaks cut from it. The loss of moisture means concentrated flavor, and the aging allows the natural enzymes in the beef to break down some of the connective tissue, which makes it much more tender and also contributes to flavor a bit.
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Re: Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH (Züri preferred)

I have always done mine at home, its much cheaper than buying it

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Re: Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH (Züri preferred)

Could you describe your secret method?
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No, that's something altogether different! Dry-aged beef means raw meat (steaks) which have been hung up aged for a month or so. Then the dried and moldy bits are cut off and steaks cut from it. The loss of moisture means concentrated flavor, and the aging allows the natural enzymes in the beef to break down some of the connective tissue, which makes it much more tender and also contributes to flavor a bit.
Not something I have encountered before. I hope it tastes better than it sounds from your description.
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Not something I have encountered before. I hope it tastes better than it sounds from your description.
Maturing meat is absolutely normal. Go to a butcher here, ask him for a steak that is "gut abgehangen". It will however be difficult to find a steak that is cut American style (T-Bone might be available).
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Re: Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH (Züri preferred)

@Purple: look mate, it's simple. If you have ever eaten a steak and said "that's good", it's been aged. That's what we're on about.

Drying meat, i.e. preserving meat, is a different game altogether - more cowboy than cowboy steak.

@Frank: did you bother to click on my link above? Getting a Porterhouse cut is not a problem; having it properly marbled (raised US style) - different story.
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Re: Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH (Züri preferred)

Yeah, it's very clear that the Swiss culture is not one of steak!

What I often do is wet-age my own beef — I buy vacuum-packed meat at Coop (Migros is not vacuum packed and does not work for this), then stick it in the coolest part of the fridge for 3-5 days past the use-by date (Swiss use-by dates are extremely conservative!). Makes it tastier and more tender.

But mostly I've given up on beef. Imported horse and lamb are plainly just better meats than Swiss beef.
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@Purple: look mate, it's simple. If you have ever eaten a steak and said "that's good", it's been aged. That's what we're on about.
I know that meat is aged to improve me. What surprised me was the leaving it until its mouldy, and then cutting those dry bits off.

I eat some meats and I used to eat beef, but haven't for over 20 years. This hasn't tempted me back.
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Re: Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH (Züri preferred)

Well, most people never buy dry-aged for home cooking. It's hard to get and expensive. (In USA, Whole Foods now dry-ages in the stores, but it's $$$.)

Most decent beef in USA is wet-aged, which is to say vacuum-packed and then let to rest at the right temperature for a week or two. It's this method that I replicate with vacuum-packed meat from Coop.
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Re: Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH (Züri preferred)

The method I use is quite simple. Using only good quality meat rince your beef with cold water. Then trim any excess fat. dry off the beef then wrap in cotton dish towels and place in the coolest part of the fridge. Change the wrappings daily. It should be ready for eating after about 10 days. If there is some left after about three weeks, the cut the remainder and freeze. Good for up to about 6 months. Oh and be sure to properly clean the wraps after each use. There shouldnt be any mouldy bits when done like this.

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The method I use is quite simple. Using only good quality meat rince your beef with cold water. Then trim any excess fat. dry off the beef then wrap in cotton dish towels and place in the coolest part of the fridge. Change the wrappings daily. It should be ready for eating after about 10 days. If there is some left after about three weeks, the cut the remainder and freeze. Good for up to about 6 months. Oh and be sure to properly clean the wraps after each use. There shouldnt be any mouldy bits when done like this.
This is actually the process that the "drybags" from drybagSteaks promise to simplify: http://www.drybagsteak.com/dry-aging...irections2.php . The bags are vacuum-sealed around the meat and turn - in combination with the (non-rinsed away) surface proteins of the goo thatsticks on the meat's surface - into an air-permitting membrane the meat can loose moisture through. Much the same as your cotton dish towels but with less (i.e. no) changing effort and washing-the-towels afterwards.

So with this, the question remains, where to source a 6-10 person whole USDA Prime ribeye piece to age in ones own fridge that way other than throwing ~CHF 600,- at the Globus Delicatessen cashier?

- Stefan

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Re: Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH (Züri preferred)

www.gaucho.ch

The best Argentinian steak I ever had outside of Buenos Aires....and in my opinion, Arg beef is the best in the world
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Re: Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH (Züri preferred)

Well thats simply not possible, as you cant get USDA meat here as far as I know. I would suggest that you try visiting several butchers until you find one that has both reasonable prices and the quality your looking for.

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Re: Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH (Züri preferred)

It does exist. Just bought Irish 3 weeks dry aged rib of beef (côte de boeuf) from Metzgerei Köfferli in Döttingen AG. Best meat I've ever had in Switzerland.

Price will make your eyes water.

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I eat some meats and I used to eat beef, but haven't for over 20 years. This hasn't tempted me back.
I'm curious...mind you, not trying to start anything...but if you haven't eaten beef in over 20 years, why would you bother to read a thread entitled, "Where to buy best quality dry aged beef in CH" let alone comment on it?
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He regularly searches 'mouldy' to see what was going on in the darker regions of the Forum and up came this thread.
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