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Church tower - how are the bells doing?
We heard them ringing out last night: they're gorgeous!

It's nice to be living somewhere normal at last, where we can hear church bells, see people walking with their children, vacuuming their cars, carrying their shopping, normal stuff.

Our other flat was gorgeous, the neighbours were fantastic and the washing kitchen was a dream, but it was a little too quiet for our tastes. It's nice to be part of a proper community again.
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Re: Living in the Wilderness

We live in a place that's not too big ( one street with a roundabout ) but very close to an other smallish town, so I can't really say we went native...When we rented our house last April we had a beautiful view of the Rigi in our backyard ! Two months later a construction started, pulling up 3 three story high apartment buildings literally almost in our backyard our view is GONE!!
Enjoy while you can DB and MN
On an other note owning a dog gives you loads of opportunities to mingle with the locals, let it be good (oh, what an adorable labrador you have...) or bad ( your damn dog pooped in our yard again!!!) either way you mingle...

P.S. hint, hint,one black lab might be up for adoption if she doesn't stop going into the neighbours yard...
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It's nice to be living somewhere normal at last, where we can hear church bells, see people walking with their children, vacuuming their cars, carrying their shopping, normal stuff.

If you are lucky enough to have grazing cows with bells in the area, that is a really cool sound effect over coffee and breakfast on a sunny weekend morning.
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Old 05.03.2011, 12:31
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The other really amazing sound effect is in the spring, right before sunrise. Hundreds of thousands (millions perhaps) of birds of different kinds chirping away right before sunrise.

This is really the BEST of Switzerland, the nature. Pity not everyone is able to appreciate it.
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Cow bells are wonderful to listen to at bedtime, love them. Birdsong is great too - but up here it is not so melodious as our garden in UK. There we had dozens of blackbirds and song thrushes, and their dawn chorus was out of this world. Sparrows are nesting all under the eaves by our bedroom windows - they sing and sing ... but I think they might be Swiss German.
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Old 05.03.2011, 13:28
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Hope the weather stays fair. This was just before 'You Tube'

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The other really amazing sound effect is in the spring, right before sunrise. Hundreds of thousands (millions perhaps) of birds of different kinds chirping away right before sunrise.

This is really the BEST of Switzerland, the nature. Pity not everyone is able to appreciate it.
Just be glad you didn't have a couple of dozen sulpher crested cockatoos outside your window ever 5am like I did when I lived in Canberra.
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Never have been a big fan of balconies but in this case it is totally justified. Higher looking up is simply the best. And presence of mountains in vicinity would make me being the first one on the slopes.

Yeah, looking everyday at Matterhorn would have such a soothing effect not only for my soul but also going on diet so that I could even abstain from Tablerone chocolates
When I in 2002 was pressed out by a "cooperative president" of my apartment, I accepted a replacement without a balcony. As I was in the apartment of my mother WITH a balcony, it did not matter, but when my mother first had to get to a care-home and then her apartment had to be given up (she died 5 months later) I started to miss a balcony and now feel quite happy to have a balcony again. I between April and October love to have flowers/plants on the balcony (primarily on the inside, to have a seat out on the balcony and a table, often "decorated" wines and books and a water-pipe. The "view" ? Not beautiful in the old way at all but quite nice onto landing and starting airplanes. But in the "old" places it was until about age 16 NO balcony at all, later for more than 20 years a balcony but only facing view-wise the boring Albis-chain (the lake was on the other side), and then for almost a decade, my own apartment only faced the next building, and so was even worse. I nevertheless enjoyed it on weekends, but during the week, I arrived far too late anyway. Now, with the sunset in Glattbrugg far later than in Wollishofen, the balcony is really enjoyable.
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Cow bells are wonderful to listen to at bedtime, love them. Birdsong is great too - but up here it is not so melodious as our garden in UK. There we had dozens of blackbirds and song thrushes, and their dawn chorus was out of this world. Sparrows are nesting all under the eaves by our bedroom windows - they sing and sing ... but I think they might be Swiss German.
Well, in the apartment of my younger days (with my parents) I always heard the sounds of the cows of the farmery nearby (city-owned farm, kept up in order to preserve the place), but since "out of city" never heard cows again. Sure, the birds were and are around still
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A word of warning:

I found the hardest part about living in a small town was when I had my first child. That was when the loneliness hit hard. My husband was at work the whole day, other mothers seemed to be too busy to meet up and I was still going through withdrawal from not working. The fact that other mothers had their own mothers/family around them didn't help me feel better either.
This is really true, went through the same thing. Although, it really helps knowing the local language now, everything is easier. I would concentrate on creating strong enough social network before having kids, since when the bubs arrive, it is not as easy. Not much time, one is preoccupied and priorities shift.

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The best way to integrate is not to try so badly to integrate. Let it be the way its meant to be. This is natural process and either you fit in or you won't. Time will show. You must preserve your integrity.
I totally agree with this, as well. If one is too eager, it's ott and gets suspicious to locals here. Do your own thing with showing the rest of the community how much you appreciate having them around and how much you also want to contribute, but make sure people know you aren't desperate, you have your own life, priorities and your own mission. People still fall for silly prejudices, and a desperate expat or furiner is one of them, plus the myths are quite often fed by medias.

Little bit of mystery breeds some nice interest, usually nobody plans it this way, but a busy household offers enough mystery for some healthy dose of local rumour to run around the village. Lovely friends and helpful local souls started to pour in when I started to be really independent and was happy with my own ways, being in good humor helps, helping others, the usual, normal cohabitation. Nothing special, people are lovely here, often curious about newcomers and happy something will bring new, fresh attitudes, energy and mindset. It is nice to take your own time to make little expeditions, smile a lot, but guard your private life, not willing to pawn it over for a bit of neighborly chitchat with sometimes overbearing and nosy people. Swiss appreciate selfsufficiency, maybe even because they do have to rely on the help of their families and most expats I know have little to zero help here.

The whole shtick sounds constructed, but it is actually fun and easy. The moves have been good, eventhough I have moved from a town of 2mil people into a town of couple of hundreds (and many more cows) and then a couple of thousands. The fact we had our own agenda and lives (while respecting the local way to live) earned us some really good friends and lovely locals to hang out with. People are very accepting, no matter what the gossip is. Especially the older folks, weirdly enough. Kind and tolerant.
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Hope the weather stays fair. This was just before 'You Tube'

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Yes, and in the old days, the floods of the Linth very often were disastrous for the whole area down to Lachen and Rapperswil and even affected Zurich. Only when "Escher-von-der-Linth" arranged that the Linth was re-routed into the Walensee and the water then put through the Linth-Canal into the Lake of Zurich (Obersee), the matter came under control. That the gentleman purchased gained land cheap and re-sold it by a margin started the wealth of the "Von-Escher clan" really
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Well, it turns out that we already know somebody here! One of my former colleagues is married to a local - I knew she lived in the canton, but I had no idea that she lived in our town! She's really lovely, too, which is nice.

Facilitated integration, here we come!
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Well, it turns out that we already know somebody here! One of my former colleagues is married to a local - I knew she lived in the canton, but I had no idea that she lived in our town! She's really lovely, too, which is nice.

Facilitated integration, here we come!
This sounds rather like Ziegelbrücke/Niederurnen than Glarus/Ennenda, also with the view from your balcony (even if difficult to judge really)
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This sounds rather like Ziegelbrücke/Niederurnen than Glarus/Ennenda, also with the view from your balcony (even if difficult to judge really)
You know her, then?
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You know her, then?
No, but the combination is making it obvious

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It's lovely to hear you are so happy in your new place - I bet you'll have a cricket team going in no time. Or what about a pub quiz?

Since we are having a balcony battle - my future balcony has a direct view of the SF DRS (or whatever they've rebranded it to now) building. I plan to give immediate feedback on their programming choices by way of launching flares. Or maybe rockets if it's really bad. Anyone know where I can get rockets in bulk packs?
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Yes, and in the old days, the floods of the Linth very often were disastrous for the whole area down to Lachen and Rapperswil and even affected Zurich. Only when "Escher-von-der-Linth" arranged that the Linth was re-routed into the Walensee and the water then put through the Linth-Canal into the Lake of Zurich (Obersee), the matter came under control. That the gentleman purchased gained land cheap and re-sold it by a margin started the wealth of the "Von-Escher clan" really
I wondered if the canal was quite recent. I see that it forms the boundary between Glarus and St. Gallen. Which came first, the boundary or the canal?
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The other really amazing sound effect is in the spring, right before sunrise. Hundreds of thousands (millions perhaps) of birds of different kinds chirping away right before sunrise.

This is really the BEST of Switzerland, the nature. Pity not everyone is able to appreciate it.
Very true

OMG, I saw something flying from my balcony with oomphh sound. It was Porsche...

I don't know why but from some reason reading this post I build an image in my head of immaculate alpine roads being infested by birds (I mean racing Pontiac Firebirds) adding carbon emission to pristine landscape.


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We just got back from the Fasnacht parade in Naefels. It was lovely - a much more local, family affair than Basel or Luzern - and everybody seemed to know everyone else.

So there we were, minding our own business, watching the parade, when suddenly a trombone player from one of the Guggi bands started waving madly at us (missing her cue in the process). It turned out to be one of my colleagues from work, who takes part in the parade in Naefels every spring.

You know you're in when the Guggi musicians wave at you...
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