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Old 06.03.2011, 17:39
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I wondered if the canal was quite recent.
Finished in 1823.


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I see that it forms the boundary between Glarus and St. Gallen. Which came first, the boundary or the canal?
I've been wondering that myself. My guess is that the boundary was indistinct when the area was marshland, only becoming fixed after the area was drained.

But I intend to find out for certain.
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Old 06.03.2011, 17:50
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DB, just some friendly advice to help assure friendly service when you find your new local...

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Old 06.03.2011, 18:04
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Re: Living in the Wilderness

As to joining the fire brigade-

Maybe it's different there, but an Irish friend of mine who moved to the Vallee de Joux was tricked into joining- they told him it was obligatory, leaving out the detail that it's obligatory unless you pay a (small) tax.

But it was for the best, as he was Irish, and in the small village (we had a Church) I lived in at the time I learned that the only prerequisite for joining was a healthy liver. You could forget going to the pub on days they shoveled out the fire hydrants- once the snow was moved they showed up as a homogeneous glob of thirst and ended up literally behind the bar serving their pals. Men and women (and I wouldn't want to get in a bar-room brawl with some of those mountain women ).

So perhaps you should look into it.
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Yeah, my dad's fire brigade crew is also a bit "my drinking team has a problem with pyromaniacs", they're forever organising "Höck" and "Iitrinkete", "Umtrunk", "other form of organised drinking". Plus you get the "hero benefit" every time you get a moggie out of a tree or salvage someone's flooded cellar. I might join the fire brigade myself...
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Finished in 1823.




I've been wondering that myself. My guess is that the boundary was indistinct when the area was marshland, only becoming fixed after the area was drained.

But I intend to find out for certain.
There is a story about settle the border somewhere in kanton glarus ,one guy had to carry a other guy on his back and then the rider had to carry the carrier back and where he collapsed was the final border.Ask Wolly for details Eigentlich müsste nach geografischer Logik dort oben die Grenze zwischen Uri und Glarus verlaufen. Warum sie aber am Taleingang über dem Linthal gezogen wurde, ist so unerklärlich, dass es dazu einer Sage bedarf: Um jahrelange Grenzstreitigkeiten zu beenden, beschlossen Glarner und Urner, beim Hahnenschrei aus ihren Hauptorten diesseits und jenseits der Passhöhe einen starken Läufer loszuschicken. Wo sich die beiden träfen, sollte die Grenze sein. Die Glarner mästeten ihren Hahn am Abend zuvor, die Urner ließen ihn hungern, damit er recht früh krähe. Der fette Hahn verschlief, und so war der Urner Läufer schon fast im Linthal, als er auf den Glarner traf. Er bot dem Verzweifelten an, ihm noch so viel Land zu gewähren, wie er ihn auf seinen Schultern aufwärtstragen konnte. Dort, wo der Glarner tot zusammenbrach, verläuft bis heute die Grenze. .. Sorry all I found is in german

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I wondered if the canal was quite recent. I see that it forms the boundary between Glarus and St. Gallen. Which came first, the boundary or the canal?
The boundary of course was existing before, and was the reason why Hans Conrad Escher von der Linth chose it as THE route for the canal, as it gave the two Cantons the feeling that the other side also had to contribute ! HCEvdL was a distant grand-uncle of Alfred von Escher, the man on the Bahnhofplatz !
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There is a story about settle the border somewhere in kanton glarus ,one guy had to carry a other guy on his back and then the rider had to carry the carrier back and where he collapsed was the final border.Ask Wolly for details



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Eigentlich müsste nach geografischer Logik dort oben die Grenze zwischen Uri und Glarus verlaufen. Warum sie aber am Taleingang über dem Linthal gezogen wurde, ist so unerklärlich, dass es dazu einer Sage bedarf: Um jahrelange Grenzstreitigkeiten zu beenden, beschlossen Glarner und Urner, beim Hahnenschrei aus ihren Hauptorten diesseits und jenseits der Passhöhe einen starken Läufer loszuschicken. Wo sich die beiden träfen, sollte die Grenze sein. Die Glarner mästeten ihren Hahn am Abend zuvor, die Urner ließen ihn hungern, damit er recht früh krähe. Der fette Hahn verschlief, und so war der Urner Läufer schon fast im Linthal, als er auf den Glarner traf. Er bot dem Verzweifelten an, ihm noch so viel Land zu gewähren, wie er ihn auf seinen Schultern aufwärtstragen konnte. Dort, wo der Glarner tot zusammenbrach, verläuft bis heute die Grenze. ..
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It's finally dawned on me why I love Glarus so much: it's like the Black Country, but with mountains!

Lots of very positive experiences over the last couple of days, but way too drunk to recount them all, thanks to the proximity of Denner. All I can say is that I'm glad I speak a bit of German... you wouldn't want to move here as a monoglottal anglo, even if the people are very kind and forgiving...
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Old 09.03.2011, 00:02
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We just got back from the Fasnacht parade in Naefels. It was lovely - a much more local, family affair than Basel or Luzern - and everybody seemed to know everyone else.

So there we were, minding our own business, watching the parade, when suddenly a trombone player from one of the Guggi bands started waving madly at us (missing her cue in the process). It turned out to be one of my colleagues from work, who takes part in the parade in Naefels every spring.

You know you're in when the Guggi musicians wave at you...
We just had our first "village" fasnacht too. Much more homely and relaxed affair, no jostling, and a jolly good Gugge band to boot. No really, it was quite good... OK, maybe I've been here too long...
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and a jolly good Gugge band to boot. No really, it was quite good... OK, maybe I've been here too long...


Yes, you've been here too long...

I play in the commune band (admittedly in a Protestant, francophone canton) and we all agree:

<shudder> Guggenmusik </shudder>

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Yes, you've been here too long...

I play in the commune band (admittedly in a Protestant, francophone canton) and we all agree:

<shudder> Guggenmusik </shudder>

While the Luzerner start with something like this

http://de.sevenload.com/videos/hPQlk...Gugge-Noggeler

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Re: Living in the Wilderness

By moving from Zürich to Glarnerland you propably have noticed that what was in Zürich sometimes "Hallo" is in GL always "Grüezi", and what was in Zürich "Du" is in GL only "Du" after many times meeting someone. Until that day comes, use "Sie".
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By moving from Zürich to Glarnerland you propably have noticed that what was in Zürich sometimes "Hallo" is in GL always "Grüezi", and what was in Zürich "Du" is in GL only "Du" after many times meeting someone. Until that day comes, use "Sie".
We got duzened last night by our neighbour - we've only met her three times!

Does that mean we're in?
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It means you are "In", or that you have a non-swiss neighbour .
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We "du" our neighbour - but we're up the mountain in SG
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We're in, then.
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We got duzened last night by our neighbour - we've only met her three times!

Does that mean we're in?
Probably thinks you can get her a cheap GA.
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Re: Living in the Wilderness

Here in the French-speaking side, the Romands are quite fast to "tutoyer" at least relative to the French. I had heard that the suisse allemands are also quite fast to use "Du" relative to the Germans. So perhaps this is a common Swiss trait.
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At the end of the week, we shall finally leave the Luis Vuitton infested suburban nightmare of the Zurich Gold Coast for the tranquil plains of Glarnerland. The town to which we are moving has everything we could possibly want: several supermarkets, a railway station and lots of pretty mountains to look at. There is a very large population of foreigners in the town, but I doubt many - if any - are English speakers. Like Mr Kurtz before us, we are finally going native.

This isn't the first time I've done this (and my wife, of course, is a native, of sorts. She's just a native of a different wilderness) - nearly twenty years ago, as a naive and accidentally adventurous young man, I moved to a village in Greece where few people spoke English and drinking paintstripper (or wine, as they amusingly called it) was a way of life. I fitted in just fine, back then, by the simple expedient of wandering down to the local ouzeri and demonstrating that I could hold my drink. I integrated without even noticing, and spent a very happy couple of years there before moving to the big city, which, in contrast, I hated.

This time there are two of us, both sensible grown-up types with proper jobs and worthy intentions of starting a family, fitting in, giving a good impression. Going down the local Weinstube and getting hammered with the locals isn't really a viable option any more.

I know that several members of the English Forum live or have lived far from the metropolitan centres of Zurich, Basel and Geneva, and I would be curious to hear what they have to say about living deep amongst the Swiss (and Italians, Serbs and Albanians), far from the Irish pubs and English language bookshops of the big cities.

Did you get involved with the local community? Were you able to make a good impression? What terrible social mistakes are we liable to make as an Englishman and an American lost amongst the natives? What unexpected difficulties did you encounter? How has it turned out in the end? Do you have any other advice or suggestions for us?

All responses gratefully received.

Cheers,

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well. good luck on your new life. i'm sure it will all go swimmingly. i think people always fit in as much or as little as they want to, and the good thing about switzerland is that people are normally happy to leave you alone if that's what you want.
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We got duzened last night by our neighbour - we've only met her three times!

Does that mean we're in?
It might also just mean that she sees herself above you and you need to "Sie" her back...
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