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08.02.2012, 16:47
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Hallo,
Today, I read through some lost and found post. In fact, I also lost something but never get it back. I have a question to it.
Let say, if someone found an iPhone in the train but he never pass the phone to "lost and found" counter/ report to police. Does this legal in Switzerland?
Hope to hear from you soon.
Eric
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08.02.2012, 16:51
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Finding and keeping something worth more than Fr 10,-- is stealing.
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08.02.2012, 17:02
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I think if you lose something in Switzerland you are more likely toget it back than in some other ountries. Both my children have at left their guitars on the trains her .They got them back.
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08.02.2012, 17:07
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| | | Re: Found something but not report | Quote: | |  | | | Hallo,
Today, I read through some lost and found post. In fact, I also lost something but never get it back. I have a question to it.
Let say, if someone found an iPhone in the train but he never pass the phone to "lost and found" counter/ report to police. Does this legal in Switzerland?
Hope to hear from you soon.
Eric | | | | | In saying that - finders/keeps etc etc, but the phone might be set up to be found again.
Have a look at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2526 and be reminded that Swisscom for example have the power to literally 'kill' the phone - read about imei here http://www.swisscom.ch/en/ghq/media/...iaInfo_36.html
I would suggest to try to return the phone to its owner - the SIM card has a serial number on it. You can contact that provider - give them the serial number and your info and wait to be contacted by the owner.
You might decide to keep it - but I'm just telling you how 'not to keep it' if you want to find it's owner.
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08.02.2012, 17:32
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| | | Re: Found something but not report | Quote: | |  | | | I think if you lose something in Switzerland you are more likely to get it back than in some other countries. Both my children have at left their guitars on the trains here. They got them back. | | | | | Here's a nice story - when my sister and family were over at new year a couple of years back, we went out to a bar/restaurant one night and enjoyed a pleasant evening. The next day, when we got to the ticket barrier, my (14yo) nephew found that his lift pass was missing, along with his holiday spending money, all of 70chfs. The jacket pocket they'd been in was open, so they must have fallen out. Well, we were able to replace the lift pass (5chf for the new card) and a little more cash was made available, so we thought that was an end of it.
Until about four or five weeks later, we were in the same bar meeting someone for a drink, when the bar manager came over, to take our orders we assumed. So we started to order our beers, but he stopped us, asking if any of us had lost some money the last time we'd been there. It took a minute before I remembered the previous time, then said yes, actually, 70 francs. the exact amount, says he, and proceeds to hand over the cash.
Nice, I thought, on several people's parts. Someone had spotted it on the floor and handed it in to the bar, or else the cleaning staff had picked it up and done likewise; someone had tried to remember who was sitting there; someone had handed it to the manager with that info; he vaguely knew us, as we were fairly regular customers, so held onto it until we came back in.
Any link in that chain could easily have been broken with no-one the wiser, and I wondered then, as I do now, whether that could conceivably happen in the UK or other countries.
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08.02.2012, 18:07
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For me its a question of morality (moral standards). Its up to you...
I was once in Hkg with my daughter. She bought herself a doll. We ate at McDonalds and walked out. about 30min later she realised she lost the doll. heartbroken, drama! Ran to Mcdonalds, to the serving counter. But 2 old men waved to us...at the table where we sat. The parcel was still at the table, exactly where my daughter left it. She could not thank them enough.
Coming back to the Iphone story above...if someone returns eg something valuable back to me...I would definately give them a reward for returning it.
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08.02.2012, 18:23
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I don't know what advice to give you, but few months ago I found a white Iphone with a nice red leather cover. There was nobody on the street and it was raining cats and dogs, so I took it home, dried it with the hair dryer and left it on the radiator until next day. I was amazed when the following day, the phone switched on. So, I called one of the numbers that was on the "favourite list" on the phone 'menu and I spoke to a lady who told me she was the daughter of the owner's phone. We meet up later that day and I gave her the phone. She was so impressed, she even said to me she thought foreigners who come to Switzerland were not that honest... (well, she said it in a nice way) and she even gave me 50 Chf and really insisted in take it. Since then we are very good friends...
I didn't think for a moment to keep her phone...I would have never felt good about having it.
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08.02.2012, 18:44
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Dear all,
I am not the guilty person. In fact, I lost my iPhone since last week. I reported to SBB lost and found counter and they ask me to wait. I went to Sunrise (carrier), also no positive respond. From the internet, I can trace back where was the last place the phone was.
I ask this because I think if this is a "guilty/ criminal" issue, then I have my right to report to Police and ask them take necessary action. I not sure either the police will accept my case or not.
I know I am responsible for my personal belongings. But I just want to know any other possibility to have my phone back. I just purchased from Sunrise half year ago.
Regards,
Eric
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08.02.2012, 18:47
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| | | Re: Found something but not report | Quote: | |  | | | Hallo,
Today, I read through some lost and found post. In fact, I also lost something but never get it back. I have a question to it.
Let say, if someone found an iPhone in the train but he never pass the phone to "lost and found" counter/ report to police. Does this legal in Switzerland?
Hope to hear from you soon.
Eric | | | | | If you have lost an IPhone you should definitely report it to your provider.
When you report it to the Police give them also the serial number of the phone, not just the phone number.
If someone has stolen it from you, being of that type of character, they maybe picked up by the Police on another matter and your iPhone could under those circumstances be found and traced back to you.
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08.02.2012, 18:52
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I sincerely hope your Iphone will be returned. That someone's guilt will get the upper hand.
Report it to the provider, to the police.
Good luck!
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08.02.2012, 22:50
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| | | Re: Found something but not report | Quote: | |  | | | Somethings about Switzerland are just great  | | | | | On the S-Bahn this morning, the driver came on the tannoy between two stations to announce that he had been told someone had left a bag behind on the train and if anyone has found it, please come and give it to him in his cab at the next stop. I don't think you would get that in a lot of other European countries.
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09.02.2012, 08:36
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I was really impressed this weekend when my other half's Auntie was visiting. They'd caught a taxi from Basel airport to our apartment and in the rush to get out she left her handbag in the boot. We realised this around 1 and a half hours later.
Neither of them had a clue which taxi firm they had used as they had just jumped in a waiting one outside the airport. My other half vaguely remembered it being an Opel.
We ended up calling the police, initially just to report it missing but in the end they actually traced the taxi for us as luckily there is only one Opel taxi in Basel  20 minutes later the bag was delivered back to us.
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09.02.2012, 09:06
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| | | Re: Found something but not report | Quote: | |  | | | Dear all,
I am not the guilty person. In fact, I lost my iPhone since last week. I reported to SBB lost and found counter and they ask me to wait. I went to Sunrise (carrier), also no positive respond. From the internet, I can trace back where was the last place the phone was.
I ask this because I think if this is a "guilty/ criminal" issue, then I have my right to report to Police and ask them take necessary action. I not sure either the police will accept my case or not.
I know I am responsible for my personal belongings. But I just want to know any other possibility to have my phone back. I just purchased from Sunrise half year ago. 
Regards,
Eric | | | | | if it is any consolation, people who get caught doing something against the law also have their phones' imei numbers run through the system to make sure those too aren't stolen. I would definitely report as stolen, you might not get it back, but you increase the chances of the person who stole it getting punished. there is a system in place to catch stolen phones, but sadly it doesn't work unless the stealer commits another crime.
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09.02.2012, 09:21
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It seems to be Basel is a nice secure city,
In Bern, it is also nice and safe - but bikes are stolen quiet often, and i read somewhere that Bern was reported as the 3rd in Europe in terms of having bikes stolen
And 3 days ago - someone came into a neighbor house during the noon, broke the box that collects coins for using the washing machine and took all what is in it from money - I was not so sure that this may happen in Switzerland until I saw it.
But still Switzerland is one of the safest places ever, not because they have good police but I believe because they have majority of good people who doesn't have such attitudes of stealing or having other's belongings.
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