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How should i call this? Racism? hate? u name it...

what will you do as a foreigner, when you get into a train(or bus or Tram) hungry at lunch time, going to get a your lunch an meet someone who handle this paper(picture attached) to you with a big smile on his face? ??

It has happened to me, (in train)someone who don't know who i am and what i'm doing, handed it to me. Simply because of my color,i became his target.

I am a mixed race guy, currently studying in Zurich.

It nice to hear what you guys make of this..

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Re: How should i call this? Racism? hate? u name it...

Both, and a whole lot more. It is totally inappropriate and unacceptable. What did the (smiling) person who handed it you look like?
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Old 23.04.2012, 14:17
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Re: How should i call this? Racism? hate? u name it...

Bloody Germanics, coming over the Rhine, stealing our land, replacing our language, oh wait, that's actually Latin, Bloody Romans, coming over here, stealing our land..........

All of Europe has been invaded and replaced again and again. Racists should realise that we are ALL African, unless you are pure Neanderthal.....

So, he's either a hypocrite, or a Neanderthal.

Plus, scientific studies show that stupid people are more likely to be racists, so probably Neanderthal (apologies to Neanderthals)
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Re: How should i call this? Racism? hate? u name it...

That's horrible. I feel sorry that you got this sort of treatment but as someone said, these people are usually not the sharpest knives in the set and at least you have a brain. Brain's don't grow, you cannot help these types. They are in a very strange land of their own. Leave them there.

And why diss the Neanderthals? They can play decent football... Look at Oli Kahn....
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It nice to hear what you guys make of this..

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Looks like the guy has nothing else in his life to be proud of than his skincolor or nationality... poor him. And while everbody is entitled to his own opinion did this guy not even have the balls to explain you his. What a coward! Probably some secondary school drop-out that needs some scapegoat to project his anger about his own inabilities on.

Frankly: Don't wast your time to get angry about idiots like him, feel pity for them.
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Re: How should i call this? Racism? hate? u name it...

You should have said "Sorry, I can't read. Where is RAV office? I'm in a hurry because my 10 children are waiting for me and my wives are busy working at the brothel".
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Re: How should i call this? Racism? hate? u name it...

This is how a large portion of Switzerland feels about the dark-skinned refugees coming in.

It's a reflection of the frustration with the refugee program and the kind of refugees we are seeing hanging about, a few with criminal intentions.

Unfortunately, many Swiss are too ignorant or frustrated to separate the issue from any dark-skinned person here. I can imagine these kinds of things may become more frequent until the refugee situation is solved.

It's a sign of the times. I'm sorry you were caught in such a demeaning situation. Did you have a chance to explain your own situation?

PS: If you groan me, I'd like to know why. I'm just the messenger here and not justifying the behaviour.

Please note: I've corrected many with a few. "Many" was the wrong word and I apologize.
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Re: How should i call this? Racism? hate? u name it...

Why even categorize these individuals...racism is the same all over the world ...ignorance comes in all shapes and sizes with many tongues....

If it happened to me I would put all my efforts into going public and get support from the high percentage of Swiss who are decent day to day individuals.
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Re: How should i call this? Racism? hate? u name it...

hi,

i am shocked and sorry about your terrible experience. Nothing more to say.. I am also new here, I dont feel welcome here either...
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what will you do as a foreigner, when you get into a train(or bus or Tram) hungry at lunch time, going to get a your lunch an meet someone who handle this paper(picture attached) to you with a big smile on his face? ??

It has happened to me, (in train)someone who don't know who i am and what i'm doing, handed it to me. Simply because of my color,i became his target.

I am a mixed race guy, currently studying in Zurich.

It nice to hear what you guys make of this..

Thanks
NAZI... Prolly never been outside his little protected world, is dating his second cousin, and believes that the sun shines out of his arse...
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what will you do as a foreigner, when you get into a train(or bus or Tram) hungry at lunch time, going to get a your lunch an meet someone who handle this paper(picture attached) to you with a big smile on his face? ??

I would tell him (in English) that i am not African, but simply fell asleep at the tanning salon.

Then while the person is computing what i just said, i would knock them the f-u-*-k out!!!

When they come round i would then explain (in German) that i pay more taxes here in Switzerland in a month than they do in a year and that i have sexual relations with their mother.

Smile, then leave.

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NAZI... Prolly never been outside his little protected world, is dating his second cousin, and believes that the sun shines out of his arse...
Can we leave the "nazi" bit out of this? It's just as demeaning as the author of the letter and adds no quality to the thread.
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Old 23.04.2012, 14:32
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Re: How should i call this? Racism? hate? u name it...

If it was me, I would have torn it and threw it away infront of him (in a waste basket of course!).....this type of people are just sick minded to think this way
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Old 23.04.2012, 14:35
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Re: How should i call this? Racism? hate? u name it...

by Nazi i mean an extreme nationalist... small minded... etc... sorry.
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This is how a large portion of Switzerland feels about the dark-skinned refugees coming in.

It's a reflection of the frustration with the refugee program and the kind of refugees we are seeing hanging about, many with criminal intentions.

Unfortunately, many Swiss are too ignorant or frustrated to separate the issue from any dark-skinned person here. I can imagine these kinds of things may become more frequent until the refugee situation is solved.

It's a sign of the times. I'm sorry you were caught in such a demeaning situation. Did you have a chance to explain your own situation?
The paper posted is no reflection on refugees or anything else but pure racism on an intellectual level most Kindergarden kids are... I know you love discussing all those criminal black people invading central Switzerland, but in case you did not recognize it: they are not the topic here - if you have to, just post on the existing thread on them.

BTW: North African refugees are not black, they look pretty much the same as Southern Italian or Spanish folks.

P.S> I just saw your edit: I groaned at you because you are not on topic - there is not a single hint mentioning refugees in the paper. You just love to discuss your topic and try to bend this discussion to your favourite topic: Criminal north Africans in Kanton Schwyz.
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This is how a large portion of Switzerland feels about the dark-skinned refugees coming in.

It's a reflection of the frustration with the refugee program and the kind of refugees we are seeing hanging about, many with criminal intentions.

PS: If you groan me, I'd like to know why. I'm just the messenger here and not justifying the behaviour.
Groaning because of those two statements. First, I don't believe 'a large portion' think like this (although you may argue the point, if your "large" isn't really very large at all); secondly, you are absolutely making the statement that 'many' of the refugees are coming here with criminal intent. That is a very racist assumption in itself.
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I find that a good coping mechanism for people like this is simply to pity them. Imagine how bitter, twisted and empty their lives are if they have to go around handing hate literature to strangers to feel good about themselves.
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Can we leave the "nazi" bit out of this? It's just as demeaning as the author of the letter and adds no quality to the thread.
Seriously leave it out ..Why because today we cant call people what they truly are..most of these individuals are Neo-Nazis...lets not mix words here .
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At first, I was shocked that these lines read "go back to Africa". Rather presumptive. Not every person of color... or even dark color... has Africa as their roots. Many people of African heritage are citizens of mulitple European and American countries. So... I was shocked at this message. I think it was rather dim witted.

The parts about poverty and being responsible about one's own birth control were with merit. Africa is overproducing children, and it's a fact documented by the United Nations. But the piece of paper here doesn't necessarily understand that "2" children isn't quite replacement level for African populations the way it is for Swiss populations where nearly every child born is guaranteed to live into adulthood.

The line about "if you're a tourist, please leave after 3 months" is the least offensive of all, because it's true. Any visitor who is here more than 3 months is overstaying his/her welcome and is illegal. GTFO.

Lastly, the guy on the tram who handed this out with a smile on his face... he clearly believes in this message, and I can't help but to believe that he is just a symptom of the SVP tide rolling through Switzerland. I think if I were in the OP's shoes and this had happened to me, I'd have seen that first line "go back to Africa" and I've have balled this thing up and thrown it back at the dude.
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The paper posted is no reflection on refugees or anything else but pure racism on an intellectual level most Kindergarden kids are... I know you love discussing all those criminal black people invading central Switzerland, but in case you did not recognize it: Your post is insulting. Racism as insulting as this cannot be excused with criminal minorities at all. If Nazi is demeaning for the author of the letter, comparing the OP to criminals who happen to have his skin color is worse... it is by definition racism as well. We know you love to discuss the oh-so-bad refugees once again, but they are not the topic here - if you have to, just post on the existing thread on them.

BTW: North African refugees are not black, they look pretty much the same as Southern Italian or Spanish folks.
I'm trying to convey how many Swiss feel. By disregarding my post, your closing your eyes and ears to the vibes of the nation. I firmly believe that many Swiss put anyone dark-skinned into the same "African refugee" pot, which of course is ignorant, wrong and needs to be dealt with. The question is how.
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