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Old 14.05.2012, 16:47
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yep, but all the attempt...the chances you want to take....get turned down. as i said: it takes time, chances. but often not even a smalltalk is possible.
Interesting that you said this: in the book that I read, it did say that the Swiss don't like small talks. They're not into small meaningless chit chats- something that I found odd because I never had any issues (so far) on this with my Swiss work colleagues.

Then again, this is why making a sweeping generalization is not always good.
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Old 14.05.2012, 18:58
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Interesting that you said this: in the book that I read, it did say that the Swiss don't like small talks. They're not into small meaningless chit chats- something that I found odd because I never had any issues (so far) on this with my Swiss work colleagues.

Then again, this is why making a sweeping generalization is not always good.
This is probably true, most Swiss I know are awful at polite small talk, they're just not used to it. The same goes for me I think.. normal conversation when I meet a friend:
-alright?
-sure. you?
-same.
-beer?
-beer.

If we're truly interested we ask, otherwise we don't.
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Old 14.05.2012, 19:57
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Re: Are the Swiss really hard to crack like coconuts?

Check-out counter in the USA. Cashier, "Hi, how are you?"

Inexperienced foreigner, "Better today, thanks. Got a med from the doctor, now my hayfever is gone."

Cashier, "Pardon me?"

Foreigner, "Well, you asked how I'm doing, and today I'm much better than yesterday."

Cashier (inwardly), "What a weird guy. Who the heck wants to know how he is doing? May need a shrink, not a physician."

Foreigner (inwardly), "Why do these folks ask when they don't care?"

No matter where you go, people tick differently, and we have to live with that.
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Old 14.05.2012, 20:16
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Check-out counter in the USA. Cashier, "Hi, how are you?"

Inexperienced foreigner, "Better today, thanks. Got a med from the doctor, now my hayfever is gone."

Cashier, "Pardon me?"

Foreigner, "Well, you asked how I'm doing, and today I'm much better than yesterday."

Cashier (inwardly), "What a weird guy. Who the heck wants to know how he is doing? May need a shrink, not a physician."

Foreigner (inwardly), "Why do these folks ask when they don't care?"

No matter where you go, people tick differently, and we have to live with that.
I don't know Greybeard I think the conversation would go something like this:

Cashier: Geez, I cannot wait to get home it has been hell all day. Some of the craziest people have been coming in this store today.
Foreigner (to themselves): Why is she telling me this, it is none of my business.
Cashier: My son has asthma and I had to drop him off at the babysitter's today. I tell ya' life is tough!
Foreigner: Ah, yeah...have a nice day.
Cashier: I will try, but today sucks, have a good one!

The cashier is American of course...
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Old 14.05.2012, 20:39
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Umm, I don't think you realize where I was going with that....
I think you didn't understand the answer either.

anyways confloozed i'm off. enjoy being swiss, you're on a head-start.

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I don't know Greybeard I think the conversation would go something like this:

Cashier: Geez, I cannot wait to get home it has been hell all day. Some of the craziest people have been coming in this store today.
Foreigner (to themselves): Why is she telling me this, it is none of my business.
Cashier: My son has asthma and I had to drop him off at the babysitter's today. I tell ya' life is tough!
Foreigner: Ah, yeah...have a nice day.
Cashier: I will try, but today sucks, have a good one!

The cashier is American of course...
I'm still trying to figure out why you would find anything odd in the cashier's behavior above. some people actually find the openness of strangers in the States to be an endearing quality (me among them).

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Old 15.05.2012, 07:02
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I'm still trying to figure out why you would find anything odd in the cashier's behavior above. some people actually find the openness of strangers in the States to be an endearing quality (me among them).

Because most of us Europeans think that it's absolutely weird to expose private matters to complete strangers.
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This is probably true, most Swiss I know are awful at polite small talk, they're just not used to it. The same goes for me I think.. normal conversation when I meet a friend:
-alright?
-sure. you?
-same.
-beer?
-beer.

If we're truly interested we ask, otherwise we don't.
Quite so, this habit to say something just for the sake of saying something is beyond my understanding. I am simply not interested in talking for hours about the weather, the beauty of a country, the unkown children of unknown people, the health of the said unknown people and so on. I normally disconnect after a few minutes and think about other things.
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Old 15.05.2012, 07:44
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If we're truly interested we ask, otherwise we don't.
Only thing is, that here, nobody seems to care and thus, won't ever bother asking.
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Because most of us Europeans think that it's absolutely weird to expose private matters to complete strangers.
did you mean "most of us Swiss", or did you take a poll?

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Old 15.05.2012, 09:07
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Quite so, this habit to say something just for the sake of saying something is beyond my understanding. I am simply not interested in talking for hours about the weather, the beauty of a country, the unkown children of unknown people, the health of the said unknown people and so on. I normally disconnect after a few minutes and think about other things.
Tha'ts why they call it small talk, because it doesn't last a few hours.
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Old 15.05.2012, 09:09
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Only thing is, that here, nobody seems to care and thus, won't ever bother asking.
Yeah but I think in the context he was using it in, was between two people that knew each other. And in that case they would. I think that's just obvious.
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did you mean "most of us Swiss", or did you take a poll?

I never encountered anything like this in Europe but quite a few times in the USA. But I admit it's a generalisation.
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This is probably true, most Swiss I know are awful at polite small talk, they're just not used to it. The same goes for me I think.. normal conversation when I meet a friend:
-alright?
-sure. you?
-same.
-beer?
-beer.

If we're truly interested we ask, otherwise we don't.
That's nothing to do with being Swiss, that's just men talk the world over.
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Old 15.05.2012, 10:09
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Re: Are the Swiss really hard to crack like coconuts?

If you keep in mind, whilst the Swiss getup early, they wake up somewhat later, this should answer part of your question.
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Agree - we have been here for 3 years and live in a small apartment block. The other 3 residents still barely say hello.
You live in Zurich, that is no surprise to me
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Re: Are the Swiss really hard to crack like coconuts?

Being the ultimate peach (American), I can say I agree with the coconut analogy!!
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Re: Are the Swiss really hard to crack like coconuts?

I think Swiss people are very reserved. Trainrides are the perfect example- No one would sit next to a person here if there is an empty/vacant compartment available

I am Swiss so I can't really tell if we are like coconuts- I've always loved to meet new people but I grew up in Chur which is a village compared to Zurich...
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Re: Are the Swiss really hard to crack like coconuts?

I tend to agree, but then an american could say the same of the british. At the end of the day drop the cultural bias and take each person as an individual with the same needs, wants, fears as you and I.
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Being the ultimate peach (American), I can say I agree with the coconut analogy!!
...soft with fuzz?
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