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Old 15.01.2013, 17:15
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Re: Lance Armstrong charged with doping by USADA

I hear it went something like this:



Lance: You want answers?
Oprah: I think we're entitled to.
Lance: *You want answers?*
Oprah: *We want the truth!*
Lance: *You can't handle the truth!*
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Lance: My dear, we live in a world that has alps, and those alps have to be ridden by men with lycra. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Ms Winfrey? I have a greater ego than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Cadel Evans, and you curse the Peleton. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Cadel constantly came runner up, while tragic, probably saved lies. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lies. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at times trials, you want me on that bike, you need me on that bike. We use words like bidon, domestique, maillot jaune. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent deceiving something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a woman who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very arrogance that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you don some lycra, grab some titanium and carbon, and get me some bidons. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Oprah: Did you do drugs?
Lance: I have only one nut...
Oprah: *Did you do the drugs?
Lance: *You're Goddamn right I did!*
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Old 15.01.2013, 17:17
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Re: Lance Armstrong charged with doping by USADA

Very good!
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Old 15.01.2013, 18:01
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Re: Lance Armstrong charged with doping by USADA

Nice Litespeed. Any ambitions to take up serious journalism? I hear that "The Local" has vacancies for people who can write left to write on paper without lines ...
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Old 15.01.2013, 18:04
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Nice Litespeed. Any ambitions to take up serious journalism? I hear that "The Local" has vacancies for people who can write left to write on paper without lines ...
"The Local"? I'm not worthy! I 'm not worthy!
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Old 15.01.2013, 23:33
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Re: Lance Armstrong charged with doping by USADA

Word is that he will spill the beans on Hein Verbruggen.... Suddenly I don't give a crap. Even though Lance is a psychokiller who has cheated, lied and bullied his way to the top for his whole career, if he nails Verbruggen, I love him.

And if he can knock Pat McQuaid off his perch while he's at it, so much the better.

OK this was over-reaction. I still hate him. Lance is doing all this as yet another carefully planned career move. He was on his way to becoming Governor of Texas, before the USADA nailed him. So I suppose one heart-rending confession to Ophrah will get him back on track. That and parting with a smallish fraction of the $100 million he's worth to pay off all the litigation.
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Old 17.01.2013, 13:39
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Re: Lance Armstrong charged with doping by USADA

Former team mate Frankie Andreu claims Armstrong lied for years (video)
He and his wife also claim that Armstrong conducted a campaign against them.

Betsy Andreu describes Armstrong as a chameleon (video)
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Old 17.01.2013, 15:54
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Re: Lance Armstrong charged with doping by USADA

Truly unbelievable.

I was a huge fan of Lance and probably part of me still is but somewhat getting less and less each day. How can you cheat for so long as a person knowing that in the back of your mind one day you will be exposed.

Should he be allowed to walk around freely?
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Old 17.01.2013, 15:59
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Truely unbelievable.

I was a huge fan of Lance and probably part of me still is but somewhat getting less and less each day. How can you cheat for so long as a person knowing that in the back of your mind one day you will be exposed.

Should he be allowed to walk around freely?
The man is a cheat and a liar.
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Re: Lance Armstrong charged with doping by USADA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_0PSZ59Aws

Better later than never, but still the liar is a liar
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Old 18.01.2013, 10:42
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Re: Lance Armstrong charged with doping by USADA

He sued the Sunday Times for libel and won. Presumably he lied, and therefore could be done for perjury, which could mean he'll be jailed.
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Old 18.01.2013, 10:54
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He sued the Sunday Times for libel and won. Presumably he lied, and therefore could be done for perjury, which could mean he'll be jailed.
That, plus didn't he testify in front of a Grand Jury? The Times one will be settled out of court, but the Grand Jury one will be difficult to avoid....

Where are all the posters who believed that this was a witch-hunt, by the way?
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Old 18.01.2013, 17:16
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That, plus didn't he testify in front of a Grand Jury? The Times one will be settled out of court, but the Grand Jury one will be difficult to avoid....

Where are all the posters who believed that this was a witch-hunt, by the way?
They appear not to be able to use the serarch function and started another thread.
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Old 18.01.2013, 17:36
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That, plus didn't he testify in front of a Grand Jury? The Times one will be settled out of court, but the Grand Jury one will be difficult to avoid....

Where are all the posters who believed that this was a witch-hunt, by the way?
Still here and wishing I'd been wrong. But I still stand by the old adage of innocent until proven guilty. It's been proven, somewhat late, and he's confessed. I still think it's been something of a witch hunt because we all know that many, many other cyclists whose names are at the top of the Tour de France listings were doing similar things and got away with it. Will they be re-testing the likes of Miguel Indurain's or Eddie Myrchx's results? Are the USADA going after all of them? I doubt it very much. To a certain extent this was personal I feel. But then we all know that where there's big money spent to win in any sport there's going to be cheating.
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Old 19.01.2013, 21:03
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Re: Lance Armstrong charged with doping by USADA

I read an article somewhere, (cant find it) that Lance is facing not only law suits from sponsors but he is also facing drug trafficking charges and some other very serious criminal charges. He may face some jail time unless he confesses EVERYTHING including all the people and organizations who protected him. The snowball has started to roll. I think a lot of people are very nervous about what he confesses. If he does confess everything, which I think he will to avoid criminal charges, then I expect that the cycling world will be experiencing the end of an era and the beginning of a new one, hopefully for the better. I'm sure top management from UCI is having difficulties sleeping at night. Good.
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Old 22.01.2013, 10:29
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Re: Lance Armstrong charged with doping by USADA

Here's a link to an article which summarises the Armstrong saga by someone well qualified to comment.

http://www.sport24.co.za/Columnists/...-liar-20130121

One thing that must still be considered and played out is the possible scenario where LA was used by the UCI to "boost" (pun not intended) cyclings popularity or TV ratings in the late 90's and 2000's. If this does not happen then it may well all be a waste of time....

As a LA fan (i like to see the good things as well as the bad ) pse dont misinterprete this as an excuse for his behaviour etc...

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"Lance Armstrong got favours from the sport’s governing bodies. Payments in the range of $125 000 to the UCI, offered to ‘support anti-doping’ but which conveniently occurred around the time of an alleged failed drug test at the Tour of Switzerland, suggest a degree of complicity from above that is yet to be fully uncovered. Tip-offs about testing, as well as hints on how to beat the tests were reportedly given to Armstrong, such was his influence at the top levels of cycling. The president of the UCI at the time, Hein Verbruggen, was in business with Lance Armstrong’s team owner and friend, Thom Weisel, and Armstrong had the kind of first-name relationship with those who were supposed to enforce the rules that you typically see between business colleagues. Such a relationship was appropriate, because Armstrong was good for cycling, and cycling needed Armstrong, particularly as it emerged from the 1998 doping scandals, and into the era or “renewal” that Armstrong rode.

Armstrong was immune – when he said on Oprah that he felt invincible, it’s because he was. His story and character were so large that the sport could not bring him down, and in the end, it was only his own personality that did"
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Old 22.01.2013, 10:40
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That, plus didn't he testify in front of a Grand Jury? The Times one will be settled out of court, but the Grand Jury one will be difficult to avoid....

Where are all the posters who believed that this was a witch-hunt, by the way?
Personally, I think he should be hung drawn and quartered for the his aggression in defending himself against allegations of cheating, when he was in actual fact guilty.

It annoys me that he is getting so much air time. It annoys me that people are defending his actions. He has nothing to say beyond his confession. That others were doing it is not an excuse - or rather an excuse of the weak - and, again, his behaviour towards those who accused him of cheating was incredibly aggressive and thus so should his punishment be.
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When I saw this I could not resist.


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Re: Lance Armstrong charged with doping by USADA

Have any of you actually tried to ride a bike on drugs? It's bloody hard.
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Have any of you actually tried to ride a bike on drugs? It's bloody hard.
Yes, I won, I think, can't really remember.
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Yes, I won, I think, can't really remember.
Nice quote on this subject by Formula 1 racing driver Mark Webber stating "I asked myself how everyone who beat Armstrong tested positive but he never did!"
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