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Induction stove top...cost?

Hi all, I am sure many of you are aware of the latest induction stove technology. I've had it trying to do proper stir fry on an electric range which never gets hot enough..nor retains heat. We are thinking about having our electric range replaced with an induction version. Anyone have any experience with this? What does it cost? (ballpark). Is it cheaper to have a German company do it? Thanks for any useful experience.
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Re: Induction stove top...cost?

We had a new kitchen installed with a Siemens Induction hob - 800mm wide with a variable heating area - it is in catelogues for CHF3500, but we got 35% off (which I assume is pretty standard), so just over CHF2000.

I like the instantaneous heat part of it and also that if you clumsily allow a pan to boil over, there is no mess as it wipes straight off (no heat on the hob). It is as good as you will get here, but it isn't as good as gas.

Regarding stirfry, especially in a wok - forget it. You need flames surrounding the whole surface so you will never get the same results with electric
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Re: Induction stove top...cost?

I agree with Caviar - wok cooking on any flat cooktop doesn't do so well. But we love induction- we put it in our kitchen in the US and have one here. Also energy efficient Sorry, I don't know the cost as it was part of our whole kitchen re-do. If you know a model you want, do a toppreise.ch search, I have found big savings on appliances there. You could probably just get an electrician to install it as long as the new cooktop is the same size as your current one.
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Re: Induction stove top...cost?

My Ken Hom metal wok works fine on a Swiss hob - I do a stir fry every week. My Sigg Teflon one is the one that doesn't get hot enough.
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there are home use wok induction plates but its ££££'s
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Re: Induction stove top...cost?

I recall reading somewhere on the forum a while ago that induction hobs need special permission from commune/electricity board before you can install them. Can't find the thread, but might be worth checking to be sure.
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Re: Induction stove top...cost?

The best wok cooking, needs gas - very hot and quickly adjustable - end of.

Save your money and buy some type of CalorGaz cook stove for no money, to use solely for your stir-fries - and put it away when you don't need it.
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Hi all, I am sure many of you are aware of the latest induction stove technology. I've had it trying to do proper stir fry on an electric range which never gets hot enough..nor retains heat. We are thinking about having our electric range replaced with an induction version. Anyone have any experience with this? What does it cost? (ballpark). Is it cheaper to have a German company do it? Thanks for any useful experience.
Have an induction cooktop for a few years. I had to buy a wok that was suited to induction cooking and it does not get hot enough.

The wok I used on my previous cooktop (non induction) was just fine.
So the problem might be with your wok.

The nice feature about induction is just how quickly you can boil a pot of water. Also, the elements after being turned off do not stay hot.

Is it worth the extra money? Take a magnet, test to see if all your favourite pots and pans are magnetic. If they aren't, you will need to buy new ones if you buy an induction cooktop. Definitely something to factor into the cost.
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Re: Induction stove top...cost?

Hi,

My cooking range has conked out and the servicing will take a few days. In the meantime, I need some option to be able to cook. Could anyone let me know about some portable stove options that I can buy here in Zurich



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The best wok cooking, needs gas - very hot and quickly adjustable - end of.

Save your money and buy some type of CalorGaz cook stove for no money, to use solely for your stir-fries - and put it away when you don't need it.
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Re: Induction stove top...cost?

Two cents to add...You can purchase JUST a stand alone induction burner (1 burner) for under 100 francs. We got one at Saturn. We use it for HOT cooking that the regular cook top just cant do.

With that being said...some normal cook-tops have an extra ring built into them that requires an additional twist of the knob to activate. Unless I had mentioned the lack of power to my neighbor I would not have known to make the extra twist. This is for a V-zug hobb. Im not sure about other brands.
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Hi,

My cooking range has conked out and the servicing will take a few days. In the meantime, I need some option to be able to cook. Could anyone let me know about some portable stove options that I can buy here in Zurich
You can get a basic two ring electric hob from Fust for 30 CHF

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We've got a one ring gas burner that is okay to use indoors and comes with an integral gas can. Probably available here too.



Otherwise it's a kettle and instant noodles and salads.
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I recall reading somewhere on the forum a while ago that induction hobs need special permission from commune/electricity board before you can install them. Can't find the thread, but might be worth checking to be sure.
AFAIK hobs need additional power to cook with (electric ones) that need to be fitted by a professional - so you don't need permission to install one as such, it just needs to be done by a certified sparky (or if you do it yourself, you need to get it checked over).

For cheap electrical equipment, try here: http://www.super-discount.ch/
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With that being said...some normal cook-tops have an extra ring built into them that requires an additional twist of the knob to activate. Unless I had mentioned the lack of power to my neighbor I would not have known to make the extra twist. This is for a V-zug hobb. Im not sure about other brands.
Thanks for passing on the tip, we've just moved into a new place and thought the hob wasn't working properly (and don't have the manual for it)!
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Hi all, I am sure many of you are aware of the latest induction stove technology. I've had it trying to do proper stir fry on an electric range which never gets hot enough..nor retains heat. We are thinking about having our electric range replaced with an induction version. Anyone have any experience with this? What does it cost? (ballpark). Is it cheaper to have a German company do it? Thanks for any useful experience.
There is actually nothing new about induction stove technology, but it has always been an expensive option...... but it is very good.

Induction heats up faster than a conventional cooktop (while not generating heat itself) and the heat can be controlled with ease. It is therefore more 'efficient' in terms of opperating costs (not that you would ever realise the value).

I find that the biggest advantage is safety.
As no actual heat is generated the cooktop cools down much faster (from the heat of the pots and pans).
If you have a lot of kids around, then this is a big plus.

My parents have had induction cookers, and still do (after recent renovations).
....... But they still cook on a gas ring though when they want to use a wok.

I really like the system, and the (possible) change over with your pots (due to the metal required) is worth it.
But I have to say, I wouldn't recommend the change to induction just because you want to do more stir fry cooking.

If you are considering changing your cook top anyway, and wish to stick with electric- and you have regular use for a wok. You could consider including a recessed cooktop to your upgrade:
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Re: Induction stove top...cost?

Consider getting a mixed hob, i.e. with both induction and ceramic: ours has 2 front induction hobs and two back ceramic ones.

Also, consider going to Ikea - the stuff they have is (mostly) from Electrolux, so while not high-end, not the worst (IMO) either.
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Re: Induction stove top...cost?

Head across the border and you can get a great deal on an induction cooker:

http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/...e-siemens.html

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Re: Induction stove top...cost?

some come with a free set of pans, my Siemens did. That might be worth asking your supplier about.....I think we got a set of 5 pans.
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Head across the border and you can get a great deal on an induction cooker:

http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/...e-siemens.html


Significantly lower and almost at the limit where you might get away with not having to pay import taxes while getting the German discount...

What's the deal with electric connections? Are these the same for EU as CH... unlike plumbing, doors etc. etc.? ()
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some come with a free set of pans, my Siemens did. That might be worth asking your supplier about.....I think we got a set of 5 pans.
Ours did too. It was also Siemens and the free saucepans offer is shown in the Siemans catalogue.

I'm sure other manufacturers offer it too.
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Re: Induction stove top...cost?

We also have an induction hob (Neff). Bought it from Germany, along with the rest of the kitchen.

For the question regarding special permission from the local electricity company, you need to consult the Regional Werkvorschriften (search online). For our gemeinde, there is a limit of 4 kVA for single equipment, and a limit of 10 kVA for all connected equipment (for a 40A, three phase house connection, for a 63A connection, it is 6 kVA and 16 kVA, respectively). This is only related to equipment that can generate harmonics (such as induction hobs)

As for usage, it's very good. Heat up and cool down times are very fast, especially when your pasta is about to explode out of the pan. Downside is the touch sensitive control panel; we get quite tired of it getting wet, and flashing errors and beeping all over the place. Then you have to reset all the cooking zones. The wok is also OK with it; not perfect as other posters have mentioned, but you can't have everything.
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