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SVP-we don't require more proof!

..........that the only people who vote for your party are the confused and the senile!
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Re: SVP-we don't require more proof!

What does it mean?
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Old 28.02.2013, 17:29
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Re: SVP-we don't require more proof!

Because you needed proof ?
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Re: SVP-we don't require more proof!

Well thats a tricky advertisement meant to deceive you. They are trying to get a "no" vote by tricking people into the belief that a "no" vote means against " Abzockerie". Abzocken= ripping off. The Swiss people have to vote soon to put an end to the " rip offs" by banks etc. A " no " vote would support the " ripping off".


Its the advertising campaign from SVP. Hard to explain it actually. Better you learn more German eh!

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Re: SVP-we don't require more proof!

No I don't need any proof!!
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Its the advertising campaign from SVP. Hard to explain it actually. Better you learn more German eh!
Come on, that's a lousy answer. Many people on this forum aren't living on the German side nor have any need to learn it.
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..........that the only people who vote for your party are the confused and the senile!
Absolutely.They're just windmill-tilters and provocateurs, sort of would be-right wingers, politically incorrect for political incorrectness' sake, hence their anarcho-capitalist tendencies.

They don't even have a rudimentary grasp on politics and history.At first they tried to pass themselves off as right-wing, which they aren't, now they're trying to pass themselves off as "bürgerlich" (bourgeois) which they aren't either, since the term "bürgerlich" originated from the french revolution where civil society and civil rights were constituted (as oppposed to feudal society which had existed up to that point), so in order to be "bürgelich" they'd have to be egalitarian (liberté.egalité.fraternité.maxim of the french revolution) which clearly they aren't either (for example they call themselves the middle-class party and favouring one specific class is anti-egalitarian)
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Re: SVP-we don't require more proof!

Ok. Then the post is just for those who understand German.
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Come on, that's a lousy answer. Many people on this forum aren't living on the German side nor have any need to learn it.
The advert is basically saying 'Stop the fatcats (rich businessmen) getting even fatter by paying themselves huge salaries'. The implication is that if you vote no in the Abzocker initiative, you will indeed stop the said fatcats doing this - this is the reverse of what will actually happen.

The Abzocker initiative is an attempt to allow shareholders in a company to vote explicitly on the salaries (and bonuses) of highly-paid staff (the said 'fatcats'), so if you vote 'no' (nein) there will be no oversight by the shareholders (i.e. the fatcats keep getting fatter).
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Old 28.02.2013, 18:31
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Re: SVP-we don't require more proof!

Yes. Well said!
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The advert is basically saying 'Stop the fatcats (rich businessmen) getting even fatter by paying themselves huge salaries'. The implication is the if you vote no in the Abzocker initiative, you will indeed stop the said fatcats doing this - this is the reverse of what will actually happen.

The Abzocker initiative is an attempt to allow shareholders in a company to vote explicitly on the salaries (and bonuses) of highly-paid staff (the said 'fatcats'), so if you vote 'no' (nein) there will be no oversight by the shareholders (i.e. the fatcats keep getting fatter).
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Ok. Then the post is just for those who understand German.
Except that this is the English Forum. And posting in other languages is not on.
You need to provide a translation if you are using other languages.

I think there are rules on this somewhere....
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Re: SVP-we don't require more proof!

OK. You have your translation. Stop your whining! ( Jammern)
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Except that this is the English Forum. And posting in other languages is not on.
You need to provide a translation if you are using other languages.

I think there are rules on this somewhere....
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Old 28.02.2013, 18:43
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Old 28.02.2013, 19:05
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Can't be me. I've never worn a suit in my life!
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Its the advertising campaign from SVP. Hard to explain it actually. Better you learn more German eh!
I love how they don't even bother with an Italian page... Is it because they hate the people from the italian part too or is it that the italian part is not interested?

I often read their page to show my Swiss friends how stupid they look on the international stage having a racist party with so much power.
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Re: SVP-we don't require more proof!

Their older advertising campaigns-especially those dealing with foreigners- sometimes reminded me of the propaganda campaigns of the Nazi's.
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I often read their page to show my Swiss friends how stupid they look on the international stage having a racist party with so much power.
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Re: SVP-we don't require more proof!

This (the advertising campaign as opposed to the initiative), isn't such a big deal. IMO the ad. goes against the stance that one would expect the SVP to take here - purely because the initiative originated in the socialist camp; so the right have to oppose it.
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Well thats a tricky advertisement meant to deceive you. They are trying to get a "no" vote by tricking people into the belief that a "no" vote means against " Abzockerie". Abzocken= ripping off. The Swiss people have to vote soon to put an end to the " rip offs" by banks etc. A " no " vote would support the " ripping off".


Its the advertising campaign from SVP. Hard to explain it actually. Better you learn more German eh!
You actually failed to grasp the meaning of the campaign. The parliament agreed on a "counter-law" and if the people says "no" to Minders proposal, this one will come automatically into effect. Some (including Mr. Blocher, although he supported Minder in the beginning, and apparently the majority of the SVP) think that this other proposal is more effective than Minders (I don't agree, I think the original is better).

So that's why it says "vote 'no' if you are against rip-off". But the campaign can only be understood by people who know what it is all about and what is going to happen after a "Yes", respectively a "No".
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purely because the initiative originated in the socialist camp; so the right have to oppose it.
Hmmm...Minder is in the parliamentery group of the SVP without being part of the party itself. Minder is in no way connected to the socialist camp.
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I love how they don't even bother with an Italian page... Is it because they hate the people from the italian part too or is it that the italian part is not interested?
No, it's rather that most Italian speakers understand German perfectly.

Really, I don't know any who don't (and I live in a household of Italian speakers).

Anyway, it doesn't matter, they all vote the way I tell them to vote!

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