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Then again you can also get very cheap tickets here from the SBB website if you book inadvance and specify what train you'll be getting, so I don't really see what point was trying to be made??
Really? How so? I know they have supersavers sometimes. But very limited numbers and not great discounts.
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Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

according to SBB site

zurich to geneva tomorrow is 42 chf




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Really? How so? I know they have supersavers sometimes. But very limited numbers and not great discounts.

I have no idea, all I know is when we have people over if they buy there train ticket inadvance from SBB website they pay 20chf to get to ours, if you buy the ticket from an sbb machine on the day its 100chf

If you specify the actual train and time on the sbb site you can get it even cheaper.
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The other important factor is that the price doesn't vary on SBB at any time, either. A friend of mine with a family railcard bought a ticket from Leeds to London on a one-off special offer for £89. Bargain!

However, had she bought the same ticket for her family without the special offer or railcard it would have cost over £250, and if she'd bought it within 7 days of travel it would have cost over £300!

The ticketing system in the UK is mental. You can buy tickets for the same journey at different times and they can cost double.
I don't know what ticket or conditions your friend had but if I want to travel from Leeds to London tomorrow and leave at 11am it would cost £30.50

If it was today it would be £97
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according to SBB site

zurich to geneva tomorrow is 42 chf




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from CHF 42.00
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2Show details for connection 2 Local area map: Zürich HB Zürich HB Th, 01.05.14 dep 11:04 2:38 1 ICN 1.
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from CHF 42.00
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3Show details for connection 3 Local area map: Zürich HB Zürich HB Th, 01.05.14 dep 11:32 2:43 0 IC 1.
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from CHF 42.00
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4Show details for connection 4 Local area map: Zürich HB Zürich HB Th, 01.05.14 dep 12:04 2:38 0 ICN 1.
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from 42CHF.

That's with a half price card. If I added a 16-25 railcard to my journey it would be £11.

But planning a journey one day in advance and using a half price card compared to no discount in the UK gives more or less the same price
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Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Right. Just don't forget you probably came to Switzerland because of a better job offer than you would have got in England and that's when your arguments become a game of picking at straws.
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from 42CHF.

That's with a half price card. If I added a 16-25 railcard to my journey it would be £11.

But planning a journey one day in advance and using a half price card compared to no discount in the UK gives more or less the same price

ah yes, didn't click through to buy still, I'd take swiss trains over UK trains any day of the week
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I don't know what ticket or conditions your friend had but if I want to travel from Leeds to London tomorrow and leave at 11am it would cost £30.50

If it was today it would be £97
That's the point I was trying to make. Checking price tickets at different times chucks up different prices, too many variables including days in advance you book it and times of the day you want to travel (even within the off-peak period).

My friend is pretty voucher-savvy and was very flexible when she and the family could travel so got a good deal.

I'm not saying the price deals aren't there but you have to be super-flexible and have your finger on the train-pricing pulse if you want to make any meaningful savings.

Anyway, the thread is about being Switzerlanded, not Englanded so perhaps we should find some new examples of being ripped off.
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Right. Just don't forget you probably came to Switzerland because of a better job offer than you would have got in England and that's when your arguments become a game of picking at straws.
The reason I came to Switzerland is neither here nor there olygirl. I could have come to Switzerland to retire on a generous hidden trust fund the queen left in my name.

It doesn't mean I can't be impartial about the advantages and disadvantages of both the UK and Switzerland.
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still, I'd take swiss trains over UK trains any day of the week
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Anyway, the thread is about being Switzerlanded, not Englanded so perhaps we should find some new examples of being ripped off.
Here is one of mine! My wife was 28 weeks pregnant and was having regular pre-labour contraction 5 minutes apart. Fantastic care from the hospital. I didn't pay a penny even for the franchise!

She was given a medicine called gynipral to limit her contraction and to stop the baby coming very early. 50CHF a box. Not covered under basic insurance. This was literally medicine to stop a baby coming over 10 weeks before it's due and likely dying. Her doctor said it's the only medicine she could prescribe for this.

Tough. 150CHF...small price to pay for a healthy child of course. But it made me wonder why the hell I pay premiums every month for health insurance and when she really needs a medicine it isn't covered!

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Sometimes I wonder if I am reading the switzerlanded or first world problem thread.
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You said, and I qupote, that it is: "Extortionate without a halb-tax. Expensive with." It's not. As for the discounts... who with half a brain doesn't buy a halb-tax who lives in Switzerland?
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Those of us who don't need them.
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The reason I came to Switzerland is neither here nor there olygirl. I could have come to Switzerland to retire on a generous hidden trust fund the queen left in my name.

It doesn't mean I can't be impartial about the advantages and disadvantages of both the UK and Switzerland.
Absolutely- but please don't try to make anyone who has recent and regular experience of the UK train system at peak times, believe that Swiss trains are more expensive. GA covers the whole country, including boats and many cable-cars, etc- and is cheaper than my daughter's commuting card into London from Guildford- on a train which is so full she can't sit down, and with regular strikes, breakdowns, delays, cancelled trains, etc. You can get cheap tickets in the UK off-peak and at week-ends, on specific trains (miss it and you have to pay again) and if booked well in advance- ok- but not if you have to use trains for your work. Trains do not link with buses and pricing and time-tabling over several train companies is a total nightmare, and you know it very well.

BTW- you also know very well where to get Commune day tickets for 38CHF- now that is fantastic value for all day travel throughout Switzerland. Train travel is really not a good example of being Switzerlanded, honest.

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Absolutely- but please don't try to make anyone who has recent and regular experience of the UK train system at peak times, believe that Swiss trains are more expensive. GA covers the whole country, including boats and many cable-cars, etc- and is cheaper than my daughter's commuting card into London from Guildford- on a train which is so full she can't sit down, and with regular strikes, breakdowns, delays, cancelled trains, etc. You can get cheap tickets in the UK off-peak and at week-ends, on specific trains (miss it and you have to pay again) and if booked well in advance- ok- but not if you have to use trains for your work.

BTW- you know very well where to get Commune day tickets for 38CHF- now that is fantastic value for all day travel throughout Switzerland. Train travel is really not a good example of being Switzerlanded, honest.
why doesn't your daughter move to Switzerland?
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Absolutely- but please don't try to make anyone who has recent and regular experience of the UK train system at peak times, believe that Swiss trains are more expensive. GA covers the whole country, including boats and many cable-cars, etc- and is cheaper than my daughter's commuting card into London from Guildford- on a train which is so full she can't sit down, and with regular strikes, breakdowns, delays, cancelled trains, etc. You can get cheap tickets in the UK off-peak and at week-ends, on specific trains (miss it and you have to pay again) and if booked well in advance- ok- but not if you have to use trains for your work.

BTW- you know very well where to get Commune day tickets for 38CHF- now that is fantastic value for all day travel throughout Switzerland. Train travel is really not a good example of being Switzerlanded, honest.
I've not said the GA is expensive. It is good value...if you get use out of it. My experience with the GA is that people buy it and then go on journey's they wouldn't have gone on otherwise (nothing wrong with that). They then tally up how much it would have cost and pretend they saved money when in fact they wouldn't have spent that money anyway! Saying that I have a friend who commute from biel every day who didn't get a GA because it works out more expensive than have a single line ticket and for weekend excursions uses a car.

I've posted examples on how train travel is cheaper in the UK as long as you're flexible. If you aren't flexible then it's about the same. I'm not talking about using the train to commute to work.

If a tourist flies into Zurich and intends to take the train to Geneva. It will cost them 168CHF return. They can book it a month or 4 months in advance. Same price. Great for disorganised people

Now if I check for a ticket from Glasgow to London (much greater distance) a month in advance they have single tickets for £15.50 at most times in the morning even.

Now tell me that is isn't being Switzerlanded...honest!
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why doesn't your daughter move to Switzerland?
Tressarehalal: Seriously. Don't do this. It's just nasty and hurtful of your own reputation and any possible forums you may have set up.
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My personal favourite is getting to Heathrow airport - all fine and good if you are leaving town (what people in London call the disproportianately large city) but arrive from the nuclear wasteland requires either:
- A trip into town to come back out again on an overpriced direct train
- Change somewhere awful onto a coach/bus
- Take a coach/bus from your starting point

In Switzerland they use the ridiculous idea of putting the airport on a major line - and stopping there!! Crazy!!!!
Tube is another option and cheap, albeit not the quickest.
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If a tourist flies into Zurich and intends to take the train to Geneva. It will cost them 168CHF return. They can book it a month or 4 months in advance. Same price. Great for disorganised people
Why are people who have to travel with short notice disorganised?

There's a raft of situations where you have to travel immediately and none of them imply that the traveller is disorganised.
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Tressarehalal: Seriously. Don't do this. It's just nasty and hurtful of your own reputation and any possible forums you may have set up.
It's an honest question, seriously. If everything is better in Switzerland, why does anyone live in awful Britain? Why are so many people moving to London rather than Paris? Things are so bad there, the food is terrible, taxes are high, crime is through the roof...horrific!
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