Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Living in Switzerland > Daily life
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 28.04.2014, 13:42
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Steinhausen
Posts: 9
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts
Metrognome has earned some respectMetrognome has earned some respect
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Over the last 10 years I've been Switzerlanded in numerous ways:
  • Finding out the true cost of dental care
  • Getting that first quote for house cleaning
  • Realising just how expensive BBQ's can be
  • The price of minor speeding tickets
  • How you have to pay extra/separately for any interaction with the authorities (new permits/extracts/certificates)
  • That dreaded realisation of the complex web of regulations that has just erected an impenetrable wall cutting you off from anything you were planning on doing (import a foreign car/put up a tent in your garden/install a satellite dish/put up a roof over the bike parking place)
Some of them pleasant:
  • How insurances actually pay up without fuss or undue delay
  • How cheap parking tickets are
  • How most things work as advertised/planned
Your mileage may vary
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank Metrognome for this useful post:
  #62  
Old 28.04.2014, 13:46
lucy_who's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Germany
Posts: 642
Groaned at 7 Times in 7 Posts
Thanked 1,002 Times in 384 Posts
lucy_who has a reputation beyond reputelucy_who has a reputation beyond reputelucy_who has a reputation beyond reputelucy_who has a reputation beyond reputelucy_who has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Quote:
View Post
Coop=Tesco not Waitrose.

And Coop is twice the price of Tesco on average.
I haven't found any difference in quality, tbh, and Waitrose price-match Tesco on a lot of things these days. I also usually buy own-brand rather than branded, anyway.

Basically the problem with "cost of living" comparisons is that it all depends on how you live. Your mileage obviously varies from mine.
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 28.04.2014, 14:19
FuriousRose's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: nearby the lake
Posts: 848
Groaned at 21 Times in 17 Posts
Thanked 888 Times in 423 Posts
FuriousRose has a reputation beyond reputeFuriousRose has a reputation beyond reputeFuriousRose has a reputation beyond reputeFuriousRose has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

To me it means driving 80 km/h-100km/h in the highway
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 28.04.2014, 14:36
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Neuchatel
Posts: 19,355
Groaned at 368 Times in 275 Posts
Thanked 22,366 Times in 10,062 Posts
Odile has a reputation beyond reputeOdile has a reputation beyond reputeOdile has a reputation beyond reputeOdile has a reputation beyond reputeOdile has a reputation beyond reputeOdile has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Ever been on the M25 at Peak time if you managed those speeds you were VERY VERY lucky
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 28.04.2014, 14:39
baboon's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Rheintal
Posts: 2,458
Groaned at 73 Times in 64 Posts
Thanked 2,922 Times in 1,457 Posts
baboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Quote:
View Post
I get my cardio aspirin over the counter when I'm back in the UK. You have to answer the pharmacist's questions about why you need them
I find just telling them that aspirin or paracetemol are 10 times the price in Switzerland is treated as reason enough for them.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank baboon for this useful post:
  #66  
Old 28.04.2014, 15:04
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 9,167
Groaned at 519 Times in 398 Posts
Thanked 11,920 Times in 4,665 Posts
Richdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Quote:
View Post
I just can't see how you'd say that.
Co-op is indeed pricey for many things vs a UK supermarket, but not for everything. However, you can shop almost at comparative UK-levels by going to the ethnic shops in places like Bharkats Cash and Carry in Wiedikon, where fruit and veg etc is miles cheaper. Denner is also surprisingly good for certain things.

Food prices aren't really a cause for too much moaning imo.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Richdog for this useful post:
  #67  
Old 28.04.2014, 15:05
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ticino
Posts: 153
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 146 Times in 61 Posts
lofty is considered knowledgeablelofty is considered knowledgeablelofty is considered knowledgeable
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

i've been here for about 12 years, the only thing where I still feel Switzerlanded (and it could well be an irrational response) is when I can't find what I'm looking for when shopping, even in the big shops like MMM and Manor etc (and of course you might also get crappy help or have a hard time explaining what it is you are looking for)

Recent example: glasses for milkshakes (oh and wide straws too).

Best just to look online.
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 28.04.2014, 15:08
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SZ
Posts: 7,615
Groaned at 18 Times in 17 Posts
Thanked 15,916 Times in 5,232 Posts
meloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

In my eyes 'Switzerlanded' doesn't really refer to the Hochpreisinsel issue - it's more about the culture shock that one faces as a stranger in a strange land. It's a humorous label for a set of experiences common to many of us, a way of explaining that we aren't in Kansas anymore, Dorothy.

I use 'Switzerlanded' in a sort of joking fashion - the kind of self-deprecating tone I know does not really translate well outside the Anglo-Saxon sphere. Which is why I only use it on EF, among folks who more or less share my sense of humo(u)r.

(Heck, half the time my sense of humor doesn't translate well even within the Anglo-Saxon sphere. )

When I've been 'Switzerlanded' it is because I have once again tripped over something unexpected and I'm feeling a tad foolish, a tad 'selber schuld', for having taken my eyes off the ball. I really don't use 'Switzerlanded' as a complaint, more as an explanation, as shorthand for an experience.

Although the article does explain that the term 'Switzerlanded' refers to the culture shock aspect, that point seems unfortunately to have been lost on most of those commenting. Which is a shame.

I'll be more careful about including the winking emoticon when I use the term. Hopefully some of the 20Min commentors will pop by EF and see that despite the odd expat whinge and the even odder expat sense of humor, most of us truly do admire our host country.
Reply With Quote
The following 8 users would like to thank meloncollie for this useful post:
  #69  
Old 28.04.2014, 15:52
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: St Gallen Kanton
Posts: 640
Groaned at 142 Times in 96 Posts
Thanked 1,107 Times in 506 Posts
J2488 has a reputation beyond reputeJ2488 has a reputation beyond reputeJ2488 has a reputation beyond reputeJ2488 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Quote:
View Post
I haven't found any difference in quality, tbh, and Waitrose price-match Tesco on a lot of things these days. I also usually buy own-brand rather than branded, anyway.

Basically the problem with "cost of living" comparisons is that it all depends on how you live. Your mileage obviously varies from mine.
More quetions raised.

400 in waitrose will go much, much further if you buy the same standard (ie, unbranded) than 400CHF in Switzerland. Plus, the waitrose stuff will be better quality.

400 in Tesco will feed me for 6 months in the UK, 400CHF here will last maybe 2.5.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank J2488 for this useful post:
  #70  
Old 28.04.2014, 15:53
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: St Gallen Kanton
Posts: 640
Groaned at 142 Times in 96 Posts
Thanked 1,107 Times in 506 Posts
J2488 has a reputation beyond reputeJ2488 has a reputation beyond reputeJ2488 has a reputation beyond reputeJ2488 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Quote:
View Post
Co-op is indeed pricey for many things vs a UK supermarket, but not for everything. However, you can shop almost at comparative UK-levels by going to the ethnic shops in places like Bharkats Cash and Carry in Wiedikon, where fruit and veg etc is miles cheaper. Denner is also surprisingly good for certain things.

Food prices aren't really a cause for too much moaning imo.

The counter to that is that if you go to the ethnic shops here, you have to compare the cost to ethnic shops in the UK, which again are much much cheaper.

If you're not going to compare like-for-like, you can make the data say whatever you want it to.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank J2488 for this useful post:
  #71  
Old 28.04.2014, 16:00
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: St Gallen Kanton
Posts: 640
Groaned at 142 Times in 96 Posts
Thanked 1,107 Times in 506 Posts
J2488 has a reputation beyond reputeJ2488 has a reputation beyond reputeJ2488 has a reputation beyond reputeJ2488 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Switzerlanded (almost):

Cost of replacing a clutch on a car with around 200,000KMs on it.

Swiss, independant garage (therefore non-genuine parts):

1200CHF. Not including labour. Around 1600CHF including Labour.

UK Subaru Garage (Genuine parts, fully model-specific trained mechanic)

150. 250 including labour.

I told him i would be driving to the UK and still saving myself a small fortune. He knocked the price down to 1500CHF.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank J2488 for this useful post:
  #72  
Old 28.04.2014, 16:02
MusicChick's Avatar
modified and reprogrammed
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 9,713
Groaned at 87 Times in 70 Posts
Thanked 11,201 Times in 5,564 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Hmmm...I think for me, Switzerlanded is sending a kid to creche and having it back bullied, with the official explanation that she needs to learn how to hurt other kids. Meh. This kids will be kids, boys will be boys, teens will be teens, is a major cop out.

I am glad things are changing, I saw some time ago a campaign about growing aggressivity in schools, so it should get a bit more reasonable.

I have a feeling being walked into, pushed around while waiting in lines doing groceries, ocassionally shoved in public transport, etc., might belong to the same Switzerlanded cathegory.
__________________
"L'homme ne peut pas remplacer son coeur avec sa tete, ni sa tete avec ses mains." J.H.Pestalozzi
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank MusicChick for this useful post:
  #73  
Old 28.04.2014, 16:04
Phil_MCR's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Basel
Posts: 11,472
Groaned at 246 Times in 157 Posts
Thanked 13,323 Times in 5,675 Posts
Phil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Quote:
View Post
I find just telling them that aspirin or paracetemol are 10 times the price in Switzerland is treated as reason enough for them.
i buy them when i'm in the US. you can get bottles of 500 off the shelf no questions asked.
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 28.04.2014, 16:06
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 9,167
Groaned at 519 Times in 398 Posts
Thanked 11,920 Times in 4,665 Posts
Richdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Quote:
View Post
The counter to that is that if you go to the ethnic shops here, you have to compare the cost to ethnic shops in the UK, which again are much much cheaper.

If you're not going to compare like-for-like, you can make the data say whatever you want it to.
Sorry but that's absolutely not true at all, the gulf in prices between a UK supermarket and a UK ethnic shop is nowhere near like it is here!

UK supermarkets are like Tesco and Asda are so dirt cheap that ethnic shops can barely compete, and at best are usually similarly priced. The fact you don't know that suggests a lack of familiarity with the UK market, because in the UK I was well used to shopping at both on a very regular basis.
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 28.04.2014, 16:15
IzabelaInZug's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Zug
Posts: 728
Groaned at 62 Times in 36 Posts
Thanked 485 Times in 257 Posts
IzabelaInZug is considered knowledgeableIzabelaInZug is considered knowledgeableIzabelaInZug is considered knowledgeable
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Quote:
View Post
yes haircuts lol. 45-50 chf for a "cheap" man's cut. and they still fkuc it up and do not speak a word english.

i actually started buzzing my own hair, after i had a couple of those sessions here. saving myself a cool 100 every 2-3 months
They do fkuc itup, long or short, expensive or cheap, men or women. Finding talented hairdresser is rare although not impossible.
And I hear I should do Swiss qualifications in beauty or massage to get better recognition but to be honest I think it is bullshit. If the teaching of beauticians and therapists is of same quality as for hairdressers I won't do it. I spend double amount of money in London on my courses ( can be expensive with flights and hotel costs) but the quality is much better and it is more fun.
Reply With Quote
  #76  
Old 28.04.2014, 16:21
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Buchs AG
Posts: 3
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts
AndreasB has no particular reputation at present
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Every day, everywhere around people are trying to get me switzerlanded - on my side I try hard daily to avoid being switzerlanded, most of the times with great success:
Buying Car - got 30% better price from Reimporter ( 15000CHF saved!)
Weekly shopping - 30min drive to Germany saves me 50-60-70%
Car repair - 30min drive to Germany saves me 50-60%
New Car wheels - 30min drive to Germany: 850.- versus 2000.- in CH
And so on......
No bad feelings at all.
The best explanation why this is like that:
http://switzerland.isyours.com/E/GE/whyexp.htm
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank AndreasB for this useful post:
  #77  
Old 28.04.2014, 16:24
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Steinhausen
Posts: 9
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts
Metrognome has earned some respectMetrognome has earned some respect
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Quote:
View Post
Hmmm...I think for me, Switzerlanded is sending a kid to creche and having it back bullied, with the official explanation that she needs to learn how to hurt other kids. Meh. This kids will be kids, boys will be boys, teens will be teens, is a major cop out.

I am glad things are changing, I saw some time ago a campaign about growing aggressivity in schools, so it should get a bit more reasonable.

I have a feeling being walked into, pushed around while waiting in lines doing groceries, ocassionally shoved in public transport, etc., might belong to the same Switzerlanded cathegory.
I don't yet have the post count to thank you automatically, so until I do; have a thanks from me. Yes children need to belt up and grow up but having children dread going to school isn't quite the same.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Metrognome for this useful post:
  #78  
Old 28.04.2014, 16:28
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 9,167
Groaned at 519 Times in 398 Posts
Thanked 11,920 Times in 4,665 Posts
Richdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond reputeRichdog has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Quote:
View Post
They do fkuc itup, long or short, expensive or cheap, men or women. Finding talented hairdresser is rare although not impossible.
I was lucky to find a good one and now since over a year I only use her. I had my fair share of overpriced and underperforming haircuts along the way though.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Richdog for this useful post:
  #79  
Old 28.04.2014, 16:35
dodgyken's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Democratic Republic Kenistan
Posts: 9,783
Groaned at 340 Times in 276 Posts
Thanked 17,380 Times in 6,645 Posts
dodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Switzerlanded - definition - ex-pats complaining because they don't have a Swiss network
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank dodgyken for this useful post:
  #80  
Old 28.04.2014, 16:47
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Zurich
Posts: 3,766
Groaned at 116 Times in 74 Posts
Thanked 5,517 Times in 1,951 Posts
Kittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond repute
Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Quote:
View Post
A quick comparison that I'd say is like for like. Go to Tesco.co.uk and leshop.ch

Milk at Tesco

1 (1.50CHF )for 4 pints (~2.3L)

Milk at leshop

1.65CHF for 1L.

It's more than double!

Switzerlanded
Median cashier salary at Tesco: GBP 6.90 per hour
Entry level cashier salary at Migros: around CHF 22.90 per hour (based on 13 months @ CHF 3800, 5 weeks paid holiday per year)

It's more than double!
Reply With Quote
The following 6 users would like to thank Kittster for this useful post:
Reply

Tags
switzerlanded




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Think you've been Switzerlanded ? You aint seen nothing yet. simonminissale Daily life 146 20.09.2013 18:48
Trusting people again after you've been disappointed - how did you manage it? Kittster General off-topic 48 28.10.2012 11:32
What's The Hottest You've Ever Been? jerallie Daily life 106 17.09.2012 20:43
You've been Switzerlanded (but this time in a positive way) Chemmie Daily life 7 06.08.2012 03:12
You know you've been living in Switzerland too long when... Vince Jokes/funnies 27 02.08.2011 13:17


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:38.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0