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What's with the $ after the CH? Have you been paying with those new-fangled Swiss Dollars?
Read the book it is all in there
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can of Coke and Mars Bar is around £1. From a kiosk it's 4.50 CHF.
Just out of interest, how much is a fried Mars bar in Scotland at the moment? I need to know so I exchange enough money in advance.......

But talking about being Switzerlanded:

The price for books is outrageous, which is why I order all mine via Amazon.

However, it also means friendly people saying "grüezi" in the street and rather well-behaved kids, except for in Zug, but the screaming brats at the Migros on Saturdays are probably ausländers........
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Re: You've been Switzerlanded - what does it mean for you?

Having only lived here for 3 months, I think most grocery prices are generally comparable to those in the UK. But one thing which British grocery stores are best at are the serious discounts. Back in the UK, my shopping would be cheaper because the discounts were much better. On the other hand, the amount of food we waste here in CH is much much less, than when we were in the UK.
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20 francs for a tube of 20 fizzy magnesium tablets!

But then... clean, efficient hospitals so clean one could eat off the floor if one was so inclined.

Overall, the positives outweigh the negatives, but it can be tough on the lower end of the salary scale.
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20 francs for a tube of 20 fizzy magnesium tablets!
That's 1 per tablet 1 Euro for 20 at Aldi Germany
Can I supply anyone for 5 franks per tube?
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20 francs for a tube of 20 fizzy magnesium tablets!

But then... clean, efficient hospitals so clean one could eat off the floor if one was so inclined.

Overall, the positives outweigh the negatives, but it can be tough on the lower end of the salary scale.
CHF3 something in Migros
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Old 29.04.2014, 10:46
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Precisely. Why such an enormous markup at the chemist's? They won't get my custom next time (I hadn't time to refuse this time).
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Having only lived here for 3 months, I think most grocery prices are generally comparable to those in the UK. But one thing which British grocery stores are best at are the serious discounts. Back in the UK, my shopping would be cheaper because the discounts were much better. On the other hand, the amount of food we waste here in CH is much much less, than when we were in the UK.
Also, to get cheaper food here 'you' need to adapt to a certain extent. Buying foods, be they veg, fruit, or any other stuff- and also cleaning stuff, etc, etc- which are not common in the area you live, not the norm- is always going to be more expensive- so switching to more local products will truly help reduce the bill. Examples the other way round, for me in the UK- one veg we use a lot in salads and cooking is chicory which is very cheap- but in the UK it is very expensive. Gruyères costs (and it was a lote more expensive when I first got to the UK in 70) an arm and a leg- so I had to switch to Cheddar. Muesli then was hugely exotic and expensive, so I switched to oats and made porridge, etc, etc. One reason why the expat's shopping basket is more expensive than home is buying non-norm products from 'back home'- which are imported for a niche market and therefore much more expensive than 'back home'.

About paracetamol and bog standard things like aspirin at the chemist's- I've tried to explain before. I can see both sides- and quite naturally I stock up everytime we go to UK- but it is a 'political' (social, cultural, etc) decision to keep small rural and local chemist's open to serve their community. When I first lived in the UK, each estate, area of town, (rural) village had its own chemist's. One by one, as Tesco and other large stores began to sell drugs and have their own chemist's in store- they closed. The few that remained in the suburbs (none in the villages practically) were all bought up by chains. Nowadays in the UK things like paracetamol and aspirin are dirt cheap- but there is no chemist's anywhere in rural areas- and the chemist's you knew and who knew your family is no longer there- and for many in the community, it is a huge convenient and social price to pay... the elderly, the frail, the handicapped, those without a car stuck in villages with cr** public transport, and many more. The reason why 'bread and butter' drugs in CH are kept at high price, because it is those products which keep them afloat and opened- to serve their community. If our local chemists closed here in our rural village, it would be a real problem for so many people- in many many ways (ok for the youngsters who can jump in their car and go down to the 'big' village or pop over to the nearest French town... of course.

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About paracetamol and bog standard things like aspirin at the chemist's- I've tried to explain before. I can see both sides- and quite naturally I stock up everytime we go to UK- but it is a 'political' (social, cultural, etc) decision to keep small rural and local chemist's open to serve their community.
This was a city centre chemist's.

Like I said, next time my custom will go somewhere else.
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This was a city centre chemist's.

Like I said, next time my custom will go somewhere else.
Indeed, surely by this logic the Odeon pharmacy should be the cheapest in Switzerland. Spoiler: it isn't.
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Precisely. Why such an enormous markup at the chemist's? They won't get my custom next time (I hadn't time to refuse this time).
Here you go http://www.chemistdirect.co.uk/
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20 francs for a tube of 20 fizzy magnesium tablets!
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About CHF 2 for 200 non-fizzy ones in Müller
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About paracetamol and bog standard things like aspirin at the chemist's- I've tried to explain before. I can see both sides- and quite naturally I stock up everytime we go to UK- but it is a 'political' (social, cultural, etc) decision to keep small rural and local chemist's open to serve their community. When I first lived in the UK, each estate, area of town, (rural) village had its own chemist's. One by one, as Tesco and other large stores began to sell drugs and have their own chemist's in store- they closed. The few that remained in the suburbs (none in the villages practically) were all bought up by chains. Nowadays in the UK things like paracetamol and aspirin are dirt cheap- but there is not chemist's anywhere in rural areas- and the chemist's you knew and who knew your family is no longer there- and for many in the community, it is a huge convenient and social price to pay... the elderly, the frail, the handicapped, those without a car stuck in villages with cr** public transport, and many more. The reason why 'bread and butter' drugs in CH are kept at high price, because it is those products which keep them afloat and opened- to serve their community. If our local chemists closed here in our rural village, it would be a real problem for so many people- in many many ways (ok for the youngsters who can jump in their car and go down to the 'big' village or pop over to the nearest French town... of course.
Not convinced. For prescription stuff, doctors here act as pharmacies (at least in my end of the country) eliminating the need for a pharmacy. For the relatively minor amount of non-prescription stuff the following solution (or any Swiss alternative) would surely serve the purpose:
Unlike food you don't need this stuff daily, the need for a local supply is much less. Also nowhere in Switzerland is the public transport truely crap.
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Unlike food you don't need this stuff daily, the need for a local supply is much less. Also nowhere in Switzerland is the public transport truely crap.
Not quite sure I understood what you meant there in relation to my link...
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Not quite sure I understood what you meant there in relation to my link...
He was referring to it as an example of how Swiss pharmacists could address the problem of supplying rural areas. Note the colon which precedes the quote.
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With vitamins and food supplements, check the dosage, though. There is a difference, also, if the vits are fizzy or not (absorbed easier). Magnesium can come in instant granules, that in my experience works the fastest, see Drogerie Markt, I think it was cca 2fr for 30 sachets last time I got it. And, if the Magnesium is meant to relief prego muscle cramps, I was prescribed to take it 2x day, instead of one bigger dose a day.

I just got a nice tub of 200 chewy tablets of Calcium in DM, for 2 francs. It's really not worth to get vits here, even Redoxon (15fr here) I saw cheaper abroad, got a tub of a gram Vit C fizzy tablets for 2 fr.
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He was referring to it as an example of how Swiss pharmacists could address the problem of supplying rural areas. Note the colon which precedes the quote.
Alles klar, that'll teach me not to skim read before replying.
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So basically the message is that those of us who can travel abroad frequently are ok to get stuff cheap, whereas all the poor feckers who are stuck in Switzerland all year round have to pay a fortune to support some non-existent rural market or something something.

People will justify literally anything.
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So basically the message is that those of us who can travel abroad frequently are ok to get stuff cheap, whereas all the poor feckers who are stuck in Switzerland all year round have to pay a fortune to support some non-existent rural market or something something.

People will justify literally anything.
But people in the cities have limited access to Landi.
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So basically the message is that those of us who can travel abroad frequently are ok to get stuff cheap, whereas all the poor feckers who are stuck in Switzerland all year round have to pay a fortune to support some non-existent rural market or something something.

People will justify literally anything.
Justify? No. It's the attachment of a weird, arbitrary ethical standard to things which I find...weird. Like supporting local farmers. I have no idea why a landowner in Ticino is less deserving of my patronage than a landowner in Schaffhausen. Or protecting communities. It's less efficient to live in villages than in cities. It's why cities exist in the first place. You're not going to be able to have lots of shops to serve 25 people and manipulating the market (eg with taxes or shunning Tesco) is just odd.
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