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EU Flags

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Last days all buses and trams of the ZVV have been featuring the EU flag in the middle of the ZH and CH flags.
I also saw the same setup is some larger flags at Bellevue.

I was wondering what's the deal with the EU flags, as they normally have only ZH and CH during holidays.

Would it be related to the Eurovision song contest?
Any top level summit to renegotiate the framework agreement after the SVP initiative?
ZH secretly joining the EU?

I'm just curious!

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Old 06.05.2014, 21:43
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Re: EU Flags

Considering current tensions with the EU, such a public display of a European symbol in the city is indeed intriguing and must have caused bursts of outrage/heart attacks among a few SVP voters.

As a matter of fact, the question seems to have been raised in a Gemeinderat debate several years ago. Judging from the answers given to the SVP interpellators, the reason appears to have to do with Switzerland's membership of the Council of Europe (which the blue starred flag is also an emblem of) and the general sense that Zurich and Switzerland are an integral part of Europe.
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Old 06.05.2014, 21:47
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Re: EU Flags

It's probably because there are now more EU residents in ZH, than Swiss.
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Old 06.05.2014, 22:21
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Re: EU Flags

Well my community have been flying the EU flag regularly since they voted yes to EU membership back in the day!
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Re: EU Flags

Could it be for Europe Day? 5 May
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Could it be for Europe Day?
There is no such thing as (EU) Europe (Schumann) day, that is the propaganda of the former fascist countries that would like to sell (Germany, Italy, part of France, Greece, Bulgaria, which are today the European Union)

There is only one important day and that is Victory day. The German army surrendered to the Soviet army. Let's never forget that.
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Old 12.05.2015, 00:14
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There is no such thing as (EU) Europe (Schumann) day, that is the propaganda of the former fascist countries that would like to sell (Germany, Italy, part of France, Greece, Bulgaria, which are today the European Union)

There is only one important day and that is Victory day. The German army surrendered to the Soviet army. Let's never forget that.
This is what really happened

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Old 12.05.2015, 11:51
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Considering current tensions with the EU, such a public display of a European symbol in the city is indeed intriguing and must have caused bursts of outrage/heart attacks among a few SVP voters.

As a matter of fact, the question seems to have been raised in a Gemeinderat debate several years ago. Judging from the answers given to the SVP interpellators, the reason appears to have to do with Switzerland's membership of the Council of Europe (which the blue starred flag is also an emblem of) and the general sense that Zurich and Switzerland are an integral part of Europe.

It might make sense if the European Council and EU started using different flags. Then this sort of misunderstanding could be avoided.
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Re: EU Flags

Here all about the flags in Zurich (76 pages / 6 Megabytes)

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/content...ement_2014.pdf
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It might make sense if the European Council and EU started using different flags. Then this sort of misunderstanding could be avoided.
You're starting your own, fresh misunderstanding!

The European Council is an Institution of the European Union -- it comprises the heads of state of the members of the EU and is therefore somewhat closely associated with the EU. Its emblem is the same as that of the EU (and its flag) -- the ubiquitous blue flag with gold stars.

The Council of Europe is something else altogether -- an organization promoting cooperation between European countries. The Council of Europe counts 47 countries, stretching from the USA to north-east Asia, among its members. It is not controlled by the European Union (nor, by extension, by the European Council). Its logo is shown below.

Confused, much?!


P.S.: Don't confuse either of the two organisations above with the Council of the European Union (something else again!)
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You're starting your own, fresh misunderstanding!

The European Council is an Institution of the European Union -- it comprises the heads of state of the members of the EU and is therefore somewhat closely associated with the EU. Its emblem is the same as that of the EU (and its flag) -- the ubiquitous blue flag with gold stars.

The Council of Europe is something else altogether -- an organization promoting cooperation between European countries. The Council of Europe counts 47 countries, stretching from the USA to north-east Asia, among its members. It is not controlled by the European Union (nor, by extension, by the European Council). Its logo is shown below.

Confused, much?!
The logo is the one shown in your post, but the flag of the Council of Europe is also the blue flag with the twelve gold stars. The CoE was first, others copied it later.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Europe
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The logo is the one shown in your post, but the flag of the Council of Europe is also the blue flag with the twelve gold stars. The CoE was first, others copied it later.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Europe
Agree, one can have sympathy for the Council of Europe or even just Europe as a geographic entity but dislike the EU. If different entities share symbols you only get confusion (especially if said entities are not fully overlapping in terms of which countries adhere). Some confusion may be accidental but sometimes the confusion can be intentional.
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Could it be for Europe Day? 5 May
That was last year....
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