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The point is that the wastage may result in more food needing to be prepared for the buffet that may otherwise have been kept in the stores for another meal. It's still wastage.
Maybe at the beginning but wouldn't it self-regulate if the quantities being scoffed at front of house trend downwards?

Many ingredients will keep much longer either refrigerated or frozen, than if they are prepared/cooked and festering on a buffet table anyway.

If restaurants can't manage their food stores effectively, nor take account of changes in consumption they're not going to stay in business very long, are they?
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Re: A whole new meaning to being Switzerlanded

some very odd comments on this thread, makes me wonder is people have ever actually been to an all you can eat joint??

as a student I worked at pizza hut, during lunch time we had all you can eat, we made the pizza's, put them on the buffet trolley and people helped themselves, when things got low we made more and put them on the trolley, is that so hard to understand?

sure at the end of the lunchtime service we had a few left over (that the staff would usually eat) but the only 'wastage' was from people who took more then they could eat.

ETA this was in the UK and we didn't really get many people taking the pee
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some very odd comments on this thread, makes me wonder is people have ever actually been to an all you can eat joint??

as a student I worked at pizza hut, during lunch time we had all you can eat, we made the pizza's, put them on the buffet trolley and people helped themselves, when things got low we made more and put them on the trolley, is that so hard to understand?

sure at the end of the lunchtime service we had a few left over (that the staff would usually eat) but the only 'wastage' was from people who took more then they could eat.
I think the issue is more with these enormous buffets, brunch or otherwise. There is a steadily re-stocked load of plates and platters which have to look presentable so you have to keep them looking full rather than people eating it down to the last congealed fried egg or curled up piece of Zopf.

This gives people the green light to whack on a load of extra food (there's plenty there and free, isn't it? ) regardless whether they'll eat it or not.
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Maybe at the beginning but wouldn't it self-regulate if the quantities being scoffed at front of house trend downwards?

Many ingredients will keep much longer either refrigerated or frozen, than if they are prepared/cooked and festering on a buffet table anyway.

If restaurants can't manage their food stores effectively, nor take account of changes in consumption they're not going to stay in business very long, are they?
Why would they go out of business? This is not rocket science... people are taking more food than they eat and a lot is being wasted. They are still making a profit, but the principle of the food being wasted is no less relevant. I have myself seen people pile on food at an all you can eat buffet and leave a ton of it on a plate. It's not fair to either the restaurant owners or the other guests.

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some very odd comments on this thread, makes me wonder is people have ever actually been to an all you can eat joint??

as a student I worked at pizza hut, during lunch time we had all you can eat, we made the pizza's, put them on the buffet trolley and people helped themselves, when things got low we made more and put them on the trolley, is that so hard to understand?

sure at the end of the lunchtime service we had a few left over (that the staff would usually eat) but the only 'wastage' was from people who took more then they could eat.
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so you have to keep them looking full rather than people eating it down to the last congealed fried egg or curled up piece of Zopf.
No you don't, and this is never done. When the plates are empty they restock and not before.
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No you don't, and this is never done. When the plates are empty they restock and not before.
Obviously that's very subjective but...

Not in the places I've been, both here and elsewhere. The kitchen staff normally whisk away a platter as it gets down to the last few bits and restock it or pile it up again with a fresh batch from the kitchen directly at the buffet table. Obviously they don't stock it piece for piece but they certainly don't leave it till it's empty.

Tibits is one local example I can think of that I've seen this done.

OK, so it's not an "all you can eat" event but the principle of restocking still applies.

In fact every brunch buffet I've been to did this.
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Re: A whole new meaning to being Switzerlanded

what are the regulations regarding the arbitration of quantity of non-consumed food and whether it constitutes a genuine surplus or mere traces of usage of said food?
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Re: A whole new meaning to being Switzerlanded

In reality the larger food shopping stores throw away vast quantities of food in comparison to a food chain that offers buffet, all you can eat incentives.
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Re: A whole new meaning to being Switzerlanded

I do find the concept of advertising a place as all you can eat and then charging for not clearing your plate a little disingenuous. If the restaurant owner is concerned about wastage then don't have an all you can eat deal, as this can only encourage people to waste food. I'm also far more in favour of trying to persuade people to "do the right thing" than hitting them with fines, as this is then open to abuse from the restaurant. Leave something on your plate that you didn't like or which wasn't prepared well and that'll be five CHF.
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Also pretty standard all over the world on all you can eat deals
"All over the world" does not include America. I'm not complaining about what this restaurant does in Switzerland, but I have never seen a restaurant on this side of the pond that charges extra at an all-you-can-eat buffet if customers leave food on their plate.
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"All over the world" does not include America. I'm not complaining about what this restaurant does in Switzerland, but I have never seen a restaurant on this side of the pond that charges extra at an all-you-can-eat buffet if customers leave food on their plate.

I've def been to a chinese restaurant that charged you if you didn't eat a dish you asked for as part of the all you can eat
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I think the issue is more with these enormous buffets, brunch or otherwise. There is a steadily re-stocked load of plates and platters which have to look presentable so you have to keep them looking full rather than people eating it down to the last congealed fried egg or curled up piece of Zopf.
I was in a hotel in Ticino were they annonced the closing of the buffet in the next five minutes. Still, they restocked everything until they closed it exactly five minutes later. Weird. Just imagine a waiter bringing a new plate from the kitchen to the buffet and then just back to the kitchen because the buffet was closed.

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"All over the world" does not include America. I'm not complaining about what this restaurant does in Switzerland, but I have never seen a restaurant on this side of the pond that charges extra at an all-you-can-eat buffet if customers leave food on their plate.
It is a very common thing at sushi places.
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"All over the world" does not include America. I'm not complaining about what this restaurant does in Switzerland, but I have never seen a restaurant on this side of the pond that charges extra at an all-you-can-eat buffet if customers leave food on their plate.
Many articles show that Americans waste overall almost HALF of the food nationally, making you proportionally the worlds biggest food wasters I believe... https://www.google.ch/search?q=all+y...ood+waste+half

That is a quite frankly horrendous figure... maybe the best thing to do would be for all US restaurants to implement a wastage fee.

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Re: A whole new meaning to being Switzerlanded

The proprietor is just moaning because he can't maximize his profits by selling as many chf 12 "tickets" as possible.

He doesn't give a damn about waste, if he did he wouldn't be offering "all you can eat" buffets in the first place.

The food is wasted in both cases whether:

i) one eats every morsel on 7 plates of food from a buffet or
ii) whether one leaves 7 plates of half eaten food at one's table.
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Many articles show that Americans waste overall almost HALF of the food nationally, making you proportionally the worlds biggest food wasters I believe... https://www.google.ch/search?q=all+y...ood+waste+half

That is a quite frankly horrendous figure... maybe the best thing to do would be for all US restaurants to implement a wastage fee.
I would advocate such rule here in the US. It's incredible how much food is wasted here.
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"All over the world" does not include America. I'm not complaining about what this restaurant does in Switzerland, but I have never seen a restaurant on this side of the pond that charges extra at an all-you-can-eat buffet if customers leave food on their plate.
I went to a place in Texas once where the rule was you could walk out without paying if you managed to clear your plate (which included an enormous Texas-size XXL piece of steak). If you didn't eat it, you payed. Needless to say, there were some people there looking close to puking point but as far as I could observe, nobody did manage to clear the last little bits.
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We've been to all you can eat places (not here, in the states etc) and seen people take whole hamburgers and take just one bite and throw the rest away, then go back for something else, take a bite and leave the rest, get a big drink, take a couple of swigs and leave the rest. So yes, it makes perfect sense.
This is kind of stretching the truth .. never in my years have I ever seen this constantly happening as you refer it to be a normal thing. Once maybe out of 500. But have seen more of it here then in the U.S. Where did you find a buffet with hamburgers??
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This is kind of stretching the truth .. never in my years have I ever seen this constantly happening as you refer it to be a normal thing. Once maybe out of 500. But have seen more of it here then in the U.S. Where did you find a buffet with hamburgers??
the hamburgers was at a sandals resort, then the guests moaned that there was rats in the resort
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Re: A whole new meaning to being Switzerlanded

I always wonder why people know they cannot eat all of the food they ordered lead to the leftovers instead of ordering a small portion?
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I always wonder why people know they cannot eat all of the food they ordered lead to the leftovers instead of ordering a small portion?
You don't "order a portion" at an all-you-can-eat buffet, rather pick up a plate and serve yourself
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