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Well- yes.... and no. As cost of prescription medicines including extra charges are taken on by medical insurance, but only if bought in Switzerland. (paracetamol are a bit different, and not on prescription)- cheers.
Sounds like justification after the fact to me.

Anyone with any integrity who cared about this matter would buy all their medication from a local, rural pharmacist, prescription or not, surely?
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So thread is about getting ripped off in Switzerland is it? Ah.
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Re: Pharmacy extra billing.

I have no qualms about buying paracetamol in the UK, especially as not on Swiss salary. Just as I have no qualms about doing most of my shopping in France, as it is so close to me, whilst at the same time supporting our local shops too.

Talk to older people in rural UK, and they will teel you, as they tell us- that they'd rather pay a bit more in prescription charges and have their local independent and friendly chemist's back.
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I have no qualms about buying paracetamol in the UK, especially as not on Swiss salary. Just as I have no qualms about doing most of my shopping in France, as it is so close to me, whilst at the same time supporting our local shops too.
How can you be supporting local shops if you do most of your shopping abroad?

Does not compute.
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Old 01.10.2014, 22:55
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How can you be supporting local shops if you do most of your shopping abroad?

Does not compute.
I am all for supporting local shops as long as they don't take me for a ride!

Charging me an amount in extra because the insurances with rembourse me is abusing the assurance concept. No wonder it is so expensive!!
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I am all for supporting local shops as long as they don't take me for a ride!
We - like many Swiss - do almost all our shopping locally because we don't live near the border and can't afford to make regular trips overseas.

I'm sure if we lived nearer to France or Germany we'd take advantage of the cheaper grocery bills.

But you will never hear us complain about businesses failing because they are uncompetitive. If you run a small shop or pharmacist in the back end of nowhere and can't compete with other businesses further away, then you deserve to go out of business. That's how business works!

What confuses me is the notion of people worrying about small shops disappearing, then swanning off to do their shopping elsewhere. If it's that big a deal, surely one should put one's money where one's mouth is?
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Re: Pharmacy extra billing.

Looking at my bills, Seretide Discus (for asthma) was 40 euros so 60 CHF in Spain. Here? 96 chf. And I am getting charged for the privilege to hold my paper, look in the computer and get it off the shelf for as little as 4.30 CHF additional.


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Pharmacy extra billing.

Do you also know that you pay for letters written by your doctor? I believe that you might also pay for telephone calls. Of course, your insurance reimburses you for that. It makes sense too, i think.

I don't know that this or the prescription tax is taking anyone for a ride. This is Switzerland, and in Switzerland you pay for services. So, with all due respect, i don't think it's such a big deal. And I have quite a few prescriptions. The pharmacy service here is much better than the US, far more efficient, but that's all i can compare it to. Meds are about the same, or a little less than in the US.

If you get your meds from your doctor, you don't pay the tax, as far as i know.
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Important precision: your basic insurance must be Assura to get benefit of that discount by SUNSTORE pharmacy (you have to show your membercard for every purchase you want 10% off). There is no discount on generics, even prescribed.
Make sure to change your basic insurance in time if your not by Assura yet.
Not correct. Sunstore also gives the 10% discount if your insurance is with a Group Mutuel.

Sunstore pharmacies don't charge the extra that Nil had to pay irrespective of which insurer you have your health insurance with.
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Re: Pharmacy extra billing.

Ask the big pharmas about charging more for drugs in CH than in Spain- and not the chemist's.

My mouth is not in the same place as my pension in £, which has lost almost half its value since our move. I know many people in rural UK who will do a big shop once a week at Sainsbury's or Tesco's- but still buy their paper locally and some of their groceries, to keep the local shop/s open. Lots of stuff I can't buy locally, and the French supermarket is closer than Migros or Coop, and easier to get to. I've no problem with that.
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How can you be supporting local shops if you do most of your shopping abroad?

Does not compute.
Sure it does: if you live near enough to the border, "local" and "abroad" aren't mutually exclusive.

Does a small-town pharmacist this side of the border have a stronger claim on my economic sympathies than his equally small-town, equally struggling counterpart 5 minutes further away in the next town over the German border? If so, on what possible basis?
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Ask the big pharmas about charging more for drugs in CH than in Spain- and not the chemist's.

My mouth is not in the same place as my pension in £, which has lost almost half its value since our move. I know many people in rural UK who will do a big shop once a week at Sainsbury's or Tesco's- but still buy their paper locally and some of their groceries, to keep the local shop/s open. Lots of stuff I can't buy locally, and the French supermarket is closer than Migros or Coop, and easier to get to. I've no problem with that.
So - if you're honest - the prospect of the local shops and pharmacists going out of business isn't a big deal to you because you can do your shopping elsewhere.

Fair enough.
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I am all for supporting local shops as long as they don't take me for a ride!

Charging me an amount in extra because the insurances with rembourse me is abusing the assurance concept. No wonder it is so expensive!!
Dear Nil: don't worry: Sun Store won't charge you extra fee. Doesn't matter which one of the 61 LAMal/KVG insurances you have

The Assura or Supra card gives you 10% discount on non prescription medicines
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Do you also know that you pay for letters written by your doctor? I believe that you might also pay for telephone calls. Of course, your insurance reimburses you for that. It makes sense too, i think.

I don't know that this or the prescription tax is taking anyone for a ride. This is Switzerland, and in Switzerland you pay for services. So, with all due respect, i don't think it's such a big deal. And I have quite a few prescriptions. The pharmacy service here is much better than the US, far more efficient, but that's all i can compare it to. Meds are about the same, or a little less than in the US.

If you get your meds from your doctor, you don't pay the tax, as far as i know.

But what's rubbish is the NHS. Especially when you pay £7 for unlimited pharmaceuticals. Unless you're young. Or poor. Or old. Or a student.
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Ask the big pharmas about charging more for drugs in CH than in Spain- and not the chemist's.
I am not questioning the prices of the meds but the extra costs the chemist charges me to do his job.
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Sure it does: if you live near enough to the border, "local" and "abroad" aren't mutually exclusive.

Does a small-town pharmacist this side of the border have a stronger claim on my economic sympathies than his equally small-town, equally struggling counterpart 5 minutes further away in the next town over the German border? If so, on what possible basis?
Because, er, elderly people, cripples, spastics or something...
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But what's rubbish is the NHS. Especially when you pay £7 for unlimited pharmaceuticals
A bit more and ...per item you mean!

NHS prescription charge in England will increase by 20 pence from £7.85 to £8.05 for each quantity of a drug or appliance from 1 April 2014.
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Because, er, elderly people, cripples, spastics or something...
Yeah but that argument is equally compelling in both towns. People in both places would struggle, or be sad, or whatever, if their pharmacy were to close down. So as an altruistic human being I'd ideally like to see them both stay open. I can only buy my meds from one of them though so which one's it going to be? Price is about as good a tie-breaker as any.
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Re: Pharmacy extra billing.

I think the small business issue is separate from the pharmacy tax. It seems that it is an accepted practice to charge customers a fee for rendering a health related professional service - doctors writing letters, taking calls, etc. When i get a bill from my oncologist, every thing is itemized....even the blood draw and supplies. So it's the same with the pharmacy check. So maybe you think it's a waste of money - and fortunately, there are options for you to avoid the cost.

I think this is separate from the health of small local businesses.
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Yeah but that argument is equally compelling in both towns. People in both places would struggle, or be sad, or whatever, if their pharmacy were to close down. So as an altruistic human being I'd ideally like to see them both stay open. I can only buy my meds from one of them though so which one's it going to be? Price is about as good a tie-breaker as any.
Indeed. But what about the poor orphans who haven't got a passport?

Won't somebody think of the children?!
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