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I think my photo is showing on my profile now if you click on it but having trouble uploading to the forum. Can someone tell me if they can see me? I should be wearing a white dress!
Well, yes you look good. I do not want to sound insulting you, but personally I don't find you very attractive though (But off course you don't need a certificate from me :-)). I can understand that you had been unlucky in (some) relationships but the vitriolic stance you have taken against Asians (men and women) really is pathetic. It may also be interesting to know why you were rejected by your ex-bfs parents because in a sense it goes against your own notion that Asians in general are attracted to people of fair complexion (and you are noticeably fair).

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you must be an Indian woman so you are naturally biased to European women as they don't come up to the " indian beauty concept." So maybe you can't give an objective opinion. And in Indian families the parents dominate and they also select the partner. So...no free choice. And if the parents don't like the partner then they can wreak havoc.
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Well, yes you look good. I do not want to sound insulting you, but personally I don't find you very attractive though (But off course you don't need a certificate from me :-)). I can understand that you had been unlucky in (some) relationships but the vitriolic stance you have taken against Asians (men and women) really is pathetic. It may also be interesting to know why you were rejected by your ex-bfs parents because in a sense it goes against your own notion that Asians in general are attracted to people of fair complexion (and you are noticeably fair).

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I think my photo is showing on my profile now if you click on it but having trouble uploading to the forum. Can someone tell me if they can see me? I should be wearing a white dress!
You're pretty cute, although you would still have some serious Eastern European competitors here. I can't really tell what your personality is like, but the better part of beauty does come from the inside outside. More importantly, how you relate and how you make people feel. Hopefully, you didn't come off as cold and heartless to your xbf's parents, as you seemed to already have offended a number here already. Like I said earlier, it is all about chemistry. Without the sensitivity and sympathy, your experience may just as well be repeated anywhere you go.
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so you are naturally biased to European women as they don't come up to the " indian beauty concept." So maybe you can't give an objective opinion.
Unfortunately, but true, every single person has his/her sense of beauty irrespective of any cultural bias. As I said, looking at her pictures I find her good looking but not attractive and is nothing more than my personal opinion. However I do find many European women attractive so this 'natural bias' that you are alluding to doesn't exist at least for me.


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And in Indian families the parents dominate and they also select the partner. So...no free choice. And if the parents don't like the partner then they can wreak havoc.
Sweeping Generalisation. Yes, in most Indian families the parents have a very big say in anything that involves the family especially marriage. But there are increasingly many Indian families which accept love marriages. There has to be some reason for the parents to have rejected her as this goes against her own notion that Asians have a great attraction for Whites.


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London has the most amazing range Indian restaurants and Zurich is way behind in this case.. lol

I remember that we in Zürich into the late 1970ies (Raja Bongo opened up on Milchbuck) no Indian Restaurants at all, and into the mid 70ies only about two Chinese Restaurants (the first was established in about 1964)


But London in 1972 had only about half a dozen Arab Restaurants, and even the range of Indian Restaurants had its limits
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Yes asians do have an attraction to Caucasian ( not "whites " ). But not necessarily physical or for love-it can sometimes be no more than economic attraction. Security for the future.
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Unfortunately, but true, every single person has his/her sense of beauty irrespective of any cultural bias. As I said, looking at her pictures I find her good looking but not attractive and is nothing more than my personal opinion. However I do find many European women attractive so this 'natural bias' that you are alluding to doesn't exist at least for me.



Sweeping Generalisation. Yes, in most Indian families the parents have a very big say in anything that involves the family especially marriage. But there are increasingly many Indian families which accept love marriages. There has to be some reason for the parents to have rejected her as this goes against her own notion that Asians have a great attraction for Whites.


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yes and there are still no good Indian restaurants here -with the exception of Hiltl. London has thousands of Indians so naturally they have a great choice of good restaurants.
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But London in 1972 had only about half a dozen Arab Restaurants, and even the range of Indian Restaurants had its limits

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Yes asians do have an attraction to Caucasian ( not "whites " ). But not necessarily physical or for love-it can sometimes be no more than economic attraction. Security for the future.
Asians have plenty of money now too!

Just look around switzerland and europe at the amount of rich Asians travelling and spending money like there's no tomorrow.......

The private banks are growing massively in APAC due to the volume of millionaires growing much faster than in the west......
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yes and there are still no good Indian restaurants here -with the exception of Hiltl. London has thousands of Indians so naturally they have a great choice of good restaurants.
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Hiltl is NOT an Indian Restaurant. The best one at present is TANDOORI BBQ on Bleicherweg but the MASALA at Stauffacher is to be praised and the Kerala near Bucheggplatz also is excellent. There are some others which indeed are comparable to Indian Restaurants in London
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... then get more and more bitter when they realise maybe they're not all that compared to many other girls around them. So then the easy thing is to lash out at the locals and try and prove that these girls are all white-hungry sluts!
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I'm having trouble blaming her. But granted I didn't really read all her posts, and her pictures are kind of cute. But it seems she wrote something earlier about a relationship break up that really affected her, and ruined her sense of enjoyment there. With that, and my experience of what it can be like in Asia, I have to admit that I have to sympathize.

This Forum was created by the late Mark Fyvie to provide expats going through the travails of feeling lost in a foreign country a place to gather, share and support. The feeling of alienation in a foreign country runs rampant in the world today. OfficeGirl is simply echoing the same. She isn't all that different than most of the members on this forum.

@Members, before casting a "bigot" stone, think about what you have thought regarding the local Swiss as you were learning how to cope with living here in Switzerland. Think about all the insults that have been hurled towards the Swiss on this forum. If you've forgotten, it is all stored there in the Complaints section for perusal, and still growing. Then ask yourself whether or not you might be a tad hypocritical by pulling out the racist/bigot card on OfficeGirl. It's nice to have a place to vent, isn't it?

The girl basically just wants a home. She tried to explain why. She might have just been a little too honest in expressing her sentiments. It looked more like a lame attempt to express herself rather than an intentional dig in order to provoke and offend. I think its understandable, and it wasn't so big that you couldn't cut her some slack. She's not a troll.

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@ Sudeepta - to be honest I've dated two Indians here. The first whom I moved over for - I was rejected by his family for not being a Hindu. His family want him to marry someone from his own caste. The family of the second guy rejected me because they said again I wasn't s Hindu and they cannot culturally relate to a westerner. The brought him two files of selected potential brides instead. By the way they are both highly educated one being a lawyer and the other a management consultant.

@poot another guy with white guy syndrome. Dude I suggest you to club street on a Friday night where many western girls hang out and poll them yourself asking how easy they find it to find a date/boyfriend (many are very hot by the way). There's nothing like collecting data yourself. You sound like the typical white guy I encounter who blames white girls for their situation. You might also want to look into the government controlled NGO that "helps" western women out here once the husband has decided to run of with the PA.
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I am sorry, but I cannot see you over the pile of hot young Asian chicks trying to hook up with me...
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Oh and thanks for the nice comments guys!!

Phos is right, I have moved a lot and I'm just looking for a home.

Sudeepta - I wasn't saying that looks are everything; it was suggested I post a photo. Of course there are a host of other considerations. I'm a follower of truth in so far as you can get it - political correctness is silly and just creates problems in the long term. There are major cultural differences between East and West (less so in Singapore). Observe very closely - how many Asian guys do you see with non-Asian women in places like eg Africa?
Open your eyes guys we're just not all equally physically and/or culturally attracted to each other.

@ Trevarus - my point exactly mate!! Why do you think you see so many Caucasian guy - Asian chick pairings? There are many reasons for this some of which have been mentioned on this forum but you may want to do a closer analysis of the global dating scene and ask yourself why western men are so sought after and conversely why Asian chicks are so sought after. Matriarchal vs patriarchal societies/cultures?

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yes and there are still no good Indian restaurants here -with the exception of Hiltl. London has thousands of Indians so naturally they have a great choice of good restaurants.
In the year 1972 Wolli refers to there were not so many Indians in London, although there had been a recent influx increase from those who were expelled from an African country. Probally in the thousands, but much more 000s now. From ca late 1960s there were many Chinese & Indian Restaurants around London. From my picture memory, probably more than Fish & Chips shops. in 1972 most were relatively inexpensive, with had good interior decorations, clean linen tablecloths. Indian restaurants had excellent service, though sometimes they had a 'Pig' of a customer.

1972 there were few Arab restaurants, mainly as the most of the Arabs in London back then were the rich ones, & the Arab restaurants were more expensive, but I suspect more than 6, as my picture memory I see one road where I suspect there to have been 6 then. Now there are more Arab restaurants, many aimed at the mass market, in that prices are not high.
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Speaking of Indian Restaurants, there is a pretty good one called Chalet India opposite the Horgen Oberdorf station. It's not the best Indian food in the world but personally, it's better than most I have had here
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These guys are usually the ones that go to Philippines,Thailand or Indonesia with the purpose of getting a wife. Desperados who are looking for a submissive woman who they can dominate.( by virtue of their money)And in some cases they bite off more than they can chew.
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@ Trevarus - my point exactly mate!! Why do you think you see so many Caucasian guy - Asian chick pairings? There are many reasons for this some of which have been mentioned on this forum but you may want to do a closer analysis of the global dating scene and ask yourself why western men are so sought after and conversely why Asian chicks are so sought after. Matriarchal vs patriarchal societies/cultures?
Yes you are right- Hiltl is not an Indian restaurant but it has a big choice of Indian dishes.And good. Kerala is a poor excuse for an Indian restaurant-I lived in India for 13 years so I know how good Indian food should be.

OfficeGirl should know what good Indian food is. Singapore has the best Indian restaurants outside of India.
Hiltl is NOT an Indian Restaurant. The best one at present is TANDOORI BBQ on Bleicherweg but the MASALA at Stauffacher is to be praised and the Kerala near Bucheggplatz also is excellent. There are some others which indeed are comparable to Indian Restaurants in London[/QUOTE]

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Open your eyes guys we're just not all equally physically and/or culturally attracted to each other.

You insist on attributing your situation to race, and make statements that sound like it authoritatively speaks for humanity, but its not true and it is offensive. You need to tone down those pronouncements and admit that these are merely your personal preferences and sentiments. I think a lot of readers already know better.

I almost never divulge personal information on this forum for privacy reasons, but I will this once. I'm part asian and my wife is a fully 100% Swiss. She is amazingly hot, and we truly rock together. We've been married for over two decades and have no thought whatsover of splitting up. Its the differences between us that attract us to each other. I'm 6' ft tall, and she's 5' 8" and there are no physical incompatibilities between us as you suggest. We've made 2 amazingly beautiful children. They inherited asiatic bone structures, yet inherited her skin and hair colors. I get partly sad, yet partly proud when people we know express envy for what we have.

You see, I already know the things you say are not true, hence it does not offend me, because we have been living it all this time. It just comes off as very absurd, but that is alright. I have my own absurdities. But for you, I can only suggest you check your own belief system to see if it is really serving you or anyone else any useful purpose, or really just preventing you from truly living. You're 34, a woman, and time is ticking. But don't panic and get miserable. But if you do, try not to spread it around and cast it on to other people. That would not be pretty and it would not be cool.
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Well maybe a bit naive of you to think that such a relationship would work.Hindu /anything else=don't pass go. Indian Christian works better.
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@ Sudeepta - to be honest I've dated two Indians here. The first whom I moved over for - I was rejected by his family for not being a Hindu. His family want him to marry someone from his own caste. The family of the second guy rejected me because they said again I wasn't s Hindu and they cannot culturally relate to a westerner. The brought him two files of selected potential brides instead. By the way they are both highly educated one being a lawyer and the other a management consultant.

@poot another guy with white guy syndrome. Dude I suggest you to club street on a Friday night where many western girls hang out and poll them yourself asking how easy they find it to find a date/boyfriend (many are very hot by the way). There's nothing like collecting data yourself. You sound like the typical white guy I encounter who blames white girls for their situation. You might also want to look into the government controlled NGO that "helps" western women out here once the husband has decided to run of with the PA.
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These guys are usually the ones that go to Philippines,Thailand or Indonesia with the purpose of getting a wife. Desperados who are looking for a submissive woman who they can dominate.( by virtue of their money)And in some cases they bite off more than they can chew.
The point that I have made in one of my posts earlier. These guys are not offering romantic love, they are simply seeking for wives who can serve them. I can tell a tons of sad stories from my Asian friends who got married to the Western guys through this kind of setting. But as I said before, for these women (or some of them) it still serves them well in terms of economic purpose, and they're not expecting romantic love from their husbands either. It's merely a contract.
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That is drastic, as a) it breaks one of the golden rules of dating: "don't get your honey where you get your money" and b) would be rather fascinating how it would be incorporated into a performance review.
Not sure where you got that. According to handelsblatt.de 20-35% of all relationships that lead to marrriage start at the work place (german article).
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Oh boy! That feeling you get when you just stumble across a 14 page thread that you haven't seen until now

Do you read all the pages or do you just pick up on the last post???

Did anyone ask for the OP's pic yet?

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