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Old 07.11.2014, 11:15
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She uploaded a stamp sized profile picture from which we can tell that she is most likely humanoid.
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Old 07.11.2014, 11:19
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In the year 1972 Wolli refers to there were not so many Indians in London...
Oh, dear. I read that as 1792 .
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Old 07.11.2014, 11:20
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She uploaded a stamp sized profile picture from which we can tell that she is most likely humanoid.
Giggity!

Edit: Yo dawg you missed the whole album!

She's cute, I say come to Zuerich! or better still to Zug! We don't want that kinda talent going to London!
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@poot another guy with white guy syndrome. Dude I suggest you to club street on a Friday night where many western girls hang out and poll them yourself asking how easy they find it to find a date/boyfriend (many are very hot by the way). There's nothing like collecting data yourself. You sound like the typical white guy I encounter who blames white girls for their situation. You might also want to look into the government controlled NGO that "helps" western women out here once the husband has decided to run of with the PA.
No hot girl struggles to find a guy anywhere in the world, and that includes white girls in Asia! I know plenty of white chicks in asia, and the attractive and nice ones never struggle for guys.

White guys rarely have racial preferences for hot girls! Especially ones without chips on their shoulder......
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@poot - look mate there's no convincing you. I've already made a post on how I form my observations (see above). It seems to me that you and many others have just decided that whatever is politically correct must be true. Back up your views with evidence and facts. Otherwise we might as well believe whatever eg we're all in fact descended from fluorescent pink aliens

@phos - glad that you have a happy marriage. I'm talking about General truths as in majority trends. I've already acknowledged that there are exceptions as there must be when you're looking at the big picture. I've already posted about how many Caucadian women leave Asia due to the dating scene. I said that the dating scene was awful not impossible. I've already said that two Caucasian girlfriends met their boyfriends out here. And I've also been propositioned; it's just that as pointed out before it's a very small pool of western expats out here who are mostly interested in dating Asian women.

I am aware of my age; thanks for pointing it out to me again. I'd rather not have children than have children with the wrong partner. I already mentioned the expat divorce rate out here. Frankly, between being a naive stay at home expat housewife with two kids and a husband who frequents whorehouses (as is so common here) and passes STDs to her or is having an affair with his PA and then announces he's divorcing her and she has one month to get out of the country and no parental right to her children (yes that's Singapore efficiency for you) (and I have seen this countless times over the nearly five years I've been here) ..well I prefer to be single and in control of my own life thanks. Race is one big factor for women more than men - but why? As mentioned already above attraction is physical and cultural (humour, character, intelligence). People are extremely pragmatic out here and for a western woman it's just not seductive. There are other reasons that are the result of Far East Asian culture (again see above). Sorry. And again we're talking about general trends not exceptions. Many Asian women are beautiful and if I were a guy I might also want to date Asian women if I were in Singapore. Let's remember that regardless of culture it's a global rule that men initially (I emphasize initially) value appearance of a woman (at least that's what triggers attraction to start with).

Regarding Indians, I still have many Indian (Hindu, Christian, Sikh) friends here and you know what they say....marry your own culture...marry a European.
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Oh and thanks lots to the people who gave me compliments on my photos...I promise I'm a nice girl but I like guys and people generally who are mentally stimulating and intellectually challenging and who are not afraid of the truth...not people who are intellectually lazy!
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Old 07.11.2014, 13:47
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Frankly, between being a naive stay at home expat housewife with two kids and a husband who frequents whorehouses (as is so common here) and passes STDs to her or is having an affair with his PA and then announces he's divorcing her and she has one month to get out of the country and no parental right to her children (yes that's Singapore efficiency for you) (and I have seen this countless times over the nearly five years I've been here) ..well I prefer to be single and in control of my own life thanks.
I am aware of this part, and it is practiced openly there, to a point where if a man does not have a few concubines, his manhood is liable to be questioned by his friends who do. To me, it harkens back to a previous epoch before westernized monogamous marriages, when polygamy was the normal practice. So I can't say you are lying about this.

To be fair, I've also seen this in Switzerland. It as a common complaint I hear from Swiss wives about their Swiss husbands. He basically checks out emotionally from the marriage, only comes home to eat and maybe sleep, and tightly controls her allowance.


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Race is one big factor for women more than men - but why? As mentioned already above attraction is physical and cultural (humour, character, intelligence). People are extremely pragmatic out here and for a western woman it's just not seductive. There are other reasons that are the result of Far East Asian culture (again see above). Sorry. And again we're talking about general trends not exceptions.
I can't blame you on this either, as I also have my preferences. Its great to think for yourself, just don't assume it applies to everybody, and claiming the generality of it doesn't really get you off the hook.

By the way, I know scores of eligible bachelors and bachelorettes in Los Angeles who are living in utter loneliness. The reason being the culture at large applies so many layers of bullshit on their relationships. They are constantly trying to measure and question each other's sincerity and worth, and also doubting whether or not there is a BBD (Bigger and Better Deal) out there. They slowly creep past their prime, and simply remain single. The women go through a phase I refer to as the "psychobitch" period, but eventually settle down, single. So it is a world wide state of things. Perhaps it is some psychological pressure to be married, but then maybe marriage really isn't necessary or in the cards for some people. There is nothing wrong with that either.
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Re: London vs Zurich

Thanks Phos, from your posts you sound like a smart guy. And by the way I have met two Asian Chinese guys I really liked (foreign born and educated) but unfortunately they were married. If I move to Zurich maybe you could lend me a helping hand?
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Old 07.11.2014, 14:04
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Oh and thanks lots to the people who gave me compliments on my photos...I promise I'm a nice girl but I like guys and people generally who are mentally stimulating and intellectually challenging and who are not afraid of the truth...not people who are intellectually lazy!
Enough of what you are looking for. All we care about is whether you swallow and do anal. Once we have that out the way we can decide on whether you are mentally stimulating and intellectually challenging. Just don't expect to stay for breakfast.

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Re: London vs Zurich

I don't think you really need to move yet. I think you just need to open up. You can increase your opportunities there, and you can use marketing techniques. Find those segments and their trends. Clearly, you need someone educated with a wider perspective. Know yourself, and know what you want, just be prepared when it might come along.

By the way, I didn't pursue my wife. She pursued me. I don't there is anything wrong with you being assertive. It might be a differentiating edge for you there. Just don't get aggressive, and don't go cooking other people's pet rabbits. You can be shameless, but don't be shameful. Get your game on now!

Switzerland is really better once you've settled down a bit, and have earned your steak. I would really not recommend it for those who still have great ambitions and fire. It can put out your fire. Read the threads in the Complaints section if you don't know what I mean.
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All we care about is whether you swallow and do anal.

That's a little bit below the belt... *drum roll*
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I think it is unfair to label others who have had different experiences and observations as being afraid of the truth or are just trying to be politically correct. I don't think anyone's doubted what you have said but unfortunately what happened was, as Phos pointed out, you've taken your experience and tried so hard to shove it down others' throats as the gospel truth and applied it across all humanity. There are bad eggs in every culture and racial group but it isn't fair to apply the attributes of these few to the whole group. At the end of the day, people have different experiences and the truth is subjective. For example, my Western female friends have disagreed with a lot of what you've said as they've had a very different experience in Singapore. So I hope you can give people that

Husbands cheating on wives happens everywhere. If a people aren't happy in a relationship or are generally jerks, they will cheat regardless of where they are and the racial profile of the person they cheat with. The example you have given I am aware of as a friend of mine works in the organization you mentioned (they help all foreign women and not just western women - and the kind of help they offer is another topic altogether) and sees cases like this ever so often. Mind you, it does not just happen to western women but also to Asian and Singaporean women. But I hope you know that cases like these occur here. I have a friend who is in the same situation mentioned but she can't divorce him as the kids are in school and doing so means she would be kicked out of Switzerland as he's partying so much that she hasn't time to get a job and look after the kids. And yes, they are both western and white.

Like I said before, I am sure you are a nice person when it comes to it. It is ,however, unfortunate that some of the remarks you've made just made you seem otherwise. For example, putting down some of the posters who have Asian wives or have experienced things differently or disagree with you. Also, I agree with Phos that if you lose some of the bitterness and open yourself more, you'll truly find the happiness you seek and deserve. I am so sure of it It's lovely to hear that you met two Asians you liked but I am also sorry circumstances turned out the way they did. I sincerely do hope something works out for you

Phos, it’s a lovely story that you’ve shared about yourself. It put quite a smile on my face this morning. It’s evidence that interracial relationships (where Asians are involved) are also full of love, unlike what was originally suggests. I come from a diverse racial background and I am of Chinese and Filipino descent. My family (extended and in-laws), whom I jokingly refer to as the United Nations, consists of English, African Americans, White Americans, Japanese, French, Malay, Indian, and Chinese... all in the last 3 generations. It always puts a smile on my face when people say it's amazing how happy and loving we all are when we all get together despite our different ethnicities and living in different parts of the world.

My story is that I met my husband through work in Singapore and it never occurred to me that he is white. He’s just another person , a fellow human, being I met and fell in love with. Regardless of his race, it was his personality I fell in love with. I think love transcends race and culture. I cannot stress enough how all the interracial couples I know personally just see their partners just as another person, another human being they fell in love with.

Anyway it looks like it’s going to be a lovely weekend. I have a glorious view of Mount Rigi and Pilatus from the office and I am looking forward to enjoying some snow. Enjoy the weekend everyone x
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Thanks Phos, from your posts you sound like a smart guy. And by the way I have met two Asian Chinese guys I really liked (foreign born and educated)
See again, to you it was somehow important to mention that these Chinese guys you liked were foreign born and educated!! I am sure there are millions of Chinese men and women who are immensely likable despite not being foreign born or foreign educated. If this plays at the back of your mind, as is evident from this post, then you are not doing justice to your own liking these guys.

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Why don't you just pack your work in and go on a one year world trip.( back packer style). This work ethic and social thing will drain you dry!
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I don't think you really need to move yet. I think you just need to open up. You can increase your opportunities there, and you can use marketing techniques. Find those segments and their trends. Clearly, you need someone educated with a wider perspective. Know yourself, and know what you want, just be prepared when it might come along.

By the way, I didn't pursue my wife. She pursued me. I don't there is anything wrong with you being assertive. It might be a differentiating edge for you there. Just don't get aggressive, and don't go cooking other people's pet rabbits. You can be shameless, but don't be shameful. Get your game on now!

Switzerland is really better once you've settled down a bit, and have earned your steak. I would really not recommend it for those who still have great ambitions and fire. It can put out your fire. Read the threads in the Complaints section if you don't know what I mean.
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@ Tannie - Nice sappy response but my experience and statistics show otherwise. Note also that international marriages and relationships are always easier between monied people. Hollywood endings exist mostly/mainly only in the movies!!

@omtatstat - As I said I've spent my life as a nomad travelling and living all over the world - I have spent my life backpacking! I want a home now!!

Oh and PS I am so ready to move out of Singapore and to a real non engineered society!! Many who have travelled been to Singapore will know what I mean!!

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Well I guess we are all backpackers in a sense-each of us carrying our own burden
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@ Tannie - Nice sappy response but my experience and statistics show otherwise. Note also that international marriages and relationships are always easier between monied people. Hollywood endings exist mostly/mainly only in the movies!!

@omtatstat - As I said I've spent my life as a nomad travelling and living all over the world - I have spent my life backpacking! I want a home now!!
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Suggest you leave this place. You are being treated as live bait.

Go wherever your heart feels happiest.
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Oh. Does a non engineered society exist. You mean maybe a less engineered society?
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Suggest you leave this place. You are being treated as live bait.

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PM'ed her your contact details! Nice move!
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Re: London vs Zurich

I would definitely go for London, no doubt at all! I lived in London for almost 4 years (recently) and I moved to Switzerland after that. No need to say how bad I miss London and all the liveliness I could not find here. I don't live in Zurich but I have been there many times and all the time it felt like something was missing. Social life is not their expertise and the city is quite boring to me. If you want to meet new people and go out and feel the energy, it is definitely London your place. My opinion
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