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Old 07.11.2014, 16:49
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Re: London vs Zurich

Officegirl, you've just proved that you aren't really a nice person. As Phos has mentioned, you just keep shoving your views down our throats. Sorry to be rude but it is intellectually very lazy to claim your experience and collected statistics as the gospel truth.

Despite our differences in opinions, I've wished you well and yet all you can be is really condescending nasty. I hope I am wrong but it seems that me being Sinagporean has a lot to do with it.

I don't think I have much to say to you anymore and I think most of the forum can truly see the person you really are. Good luck.
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Old 07.11.2014, 16:57
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@ Tannie - Nice sappy response but my experience and statistics show otherwise. Note also that international marriages and relationships are always easier between monied people. Hollywood endings exist mostly/mainly only in the movies!! ...
Yes, you're right, Hollywood endings do exist only in the movies. But we, each of us, makes and defines our own happy endings, be it living single or married/having partner
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Old 07.11.2014, 16:58
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By the way they are both highly educated one being a lawyer and the other a management consultant.
Highly educated management consultants? You won't find those in London or in Zürich.
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Old 07.11.2014, 17:00
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Dear OfficeGirl,

Suggest you leave this place. You are being treated as live bait.

Go wherever your heart feels happiest.

"and these are not ex-pats your are looking for"

Nice try Obi Wan, but I feel it's the other way around. I don't believe one can live in Singapore that long and be that naive/innocent. We are presenting ourselves here just as much for the OP's amusement...it's been fun but I'm getting bored.
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Old 07.11.2014, 17:01
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Re: London vs Zurich

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Well you have been to London -you know how it is. So why not try something new and come to Zürich. You never know until you try. The postings here are getting too vicious. And we need a decision
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I would definitely go for London, no doubt at all! I lived in London for almost 4 years (recently) and I moved to Switzerland after that. No need to say how bad I miss London and all the liveliness I could not find here. I don't live in Zurich but I have been there many times and all the time it felt like something was missing. Social life is not their expertise and the city is quite boring to me. If you want to meet new people and go out and feel the energy, it is definitely London your place. My opinion
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Old 07.11.2014, 17:04
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"and these are not ex-pats your are looking for"

Nice try Obi Wan, but I feel it's the other way around. I don't believe one can live in Singapore that long and be that naive/innocent. We are presenting ourselves here just as much for the OP's amusement...it's been fun but I'm getting bored.
Perhaps we should start charging some chuffs,eh? For the amusement she gets
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I would definitely go for London, no doubt at all! I lived in London for almost 4 years (recently) and I moved to Switzerland after that. No need to say how bad I miss London and all the liveliness I could not find here. I don't live in Zurich but I have been there many times and all the time it felt like something was missing. Social life is not their expertise and the city is quite boring to me. If you want to meet new people and go out and feel the energy, it is definitely London your place. My opinion
But you haven't lived 4 years here yet. Right?
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Re: London vs Zurich

I haven't yet reached a decision firstly because I have had to defend my views on other matters.

Maybe we can finally return to London vs Zurich. Can one really break into Swiss German society? I would like to - has anyone managed to? Has anyone learned Swiss German? How long does it take?
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Old 07.11.2014, 17:26
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Re: London vs Zurich

this might amuse you

http://www.eldrid.ch/swgerman.htm
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I haven't yet reached a decision firstly because I have had to defend my views on other matters.

Maybe we can finally return to London vs Zurich. Can one really break into Swiss German society? I would like to - has anyone managed to? Has anyone learned Swiss German? How long does it take?
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Old 07.11.2014, 17:29
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I haven't yet reached a decision firstly because I have had to defend my views on other matters.

Maybe we can finally return to London vs Zurich. Can one really break into Swiss German society? I would like to - has anyone managed to? Has anyone learned Swiss German? How long does it take?
What you describe is integration pure and simple, but the questions you ask are subject to individual case dynamics. Many have achieved integration in Switzerland and many will achieve to do so in the future. The same goes for failures however.

As for the Swiss German, immerse yourself and it will be easy to learn. I've done so and I would say it took me about 3 years, but after a few years of trying to master high German first.
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But you haven't lived 4 years here yet. Right?
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I didn't have to live in London for 4 years to realise the good things there. Just as I didnt have to live here that long to see advantages here as well. Just think London is better in her situation, since she wants to go out and meet new people. There are tons of things to do there, its diversity is great and the mix of cultures makes it much easier to socialise and feel more welcome everywhere you go.
Zurich has its own charm, yes, but in this case, I prefer London, sorry!
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@litespeed - are you a native English speaker? How long have you lived in Switzerland?
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Old 07.11.2014, 17:39
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@litespeed - are you a native English speaker? How long have you lived in Switzerland?
Yes, I moved here from Sydney 13 years ago without any knowledge of German. It's a steep learning curve but once you get past being able to hold a simple phone conversation it gets much easier.

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Old 07.11.2014, 17:40
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As for the Swiss German, immerse yourself and it will be easy to learn. I've done so and I would say it took me about 3 years, but after a few years of trying to master high German first.
And there in is the problem. For many ex-pats working at big companies and socialising in ex-pat circles - the opportunity to immerse can be tricky.

Switzerland won't work for everyone - whether Officegirl is someone for whom it will work is dependent on her primary desires and how they fit with what Zurich has to offer.

Every city/location has its positives and negatives (even Singapore) - if you one ticks more boxes for you than the other go there.
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Old 07.11.2014, 17:46
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Well I guess we are all backpackers in a sense....
alrighty then....



hmmmm.... do you think there might be other sites where you might score a higher hit ratio?

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well if as a lawyer your clients are only speaking German and if you have to read and write in German then you might find it uphill going.
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There are tons of things to do there, its diversity is great and the mix of cultures makes it much easier to socialise and feel more welcome everywhere you go.
Got your point, but then she seems to not like the Asians much and I am sure in London there will be far more Asians than here in Zurich. In fact it is the mix of culture, especially of the Asian type, which seems to have left a bad taste in her mouth (and perhaps a bad mouth too).

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Old 07.11.2014, 18:17
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You can survive in Zürich without speaking any German. It won't be my approach, but there's certainly enough people who speak English here (and this number is ever increasing) so learning German is an option not 100% necessity.
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In terms of number of posts and views is this some kind of record for a first time poster?

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I disagree. Out of politeness its a necessity.
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You can survive in Zürich without speaking any German. It won't be my approach, but there's certainly enough people who speak English here (and this number is ever increasing) so learning German is an option not 100% necessity.
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