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Old 03.11.2014, 18:06
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Re: London vs Zurich

I'm not even gonna comment on the Western-Asia "discussion", too ridiculous and not worth the time.


But a comment on dating in Switzerland, OfficeGirl: it's just different here than in the UK and US, at least from what I can see. You don't really "date" here in the sense that you meet someone random and ask them out, meet a few times and then maybe it develops into something. It happens, but not the same way and in the same frequency as in the US and from what I'm guessing the UK too. Dating is somewhat more, hm, "official" (?) here... You basically date someone and it's clear that it needs to turn into a serious relationship relatively soon, or not at all. At least that's how it was, it has changed a bit over time too. Sorry, I'm trying to find the right words to describe this and am struggling a bit

Also, Swiss are reserved. Not just men, but Swiss in general. So don't expect men to constantly ask you out everywhere and all the time. It happens, sure, but less then elsewhere. You not speaking German doesn't make things easier - at least initially, you're probably limited to a certain expat-y crowd (for which Zurich certainly is a good enough place to be).

So it's not really that there's no dating scene per se, it's just a different scene in a culture that can substantially differ from especially Anglosaxon culture. Granted, it can't be worse than Singapore for you, though
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So, if according to the previous posts, Zurich does not have a good date scene for women, is it good for men?
No it is horrible for single men. Swiss women are prude, uptight, and too serious. A single man will stay single forever in Zurich. Even many Swiss men are dating foreigners from Eastern Europe now.

But then again London isn't any better with all the self entitled feminists.

Can't win either way. The best places for single men are parts of asia (especially Philippines and Thailand), eastern europe, russia, and brazil.

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You might find the Swiss guys a bit less upfront then in other parts of Europe, like Italy or Spain. I rarely notice Swiss men checking out girls on the street, which is no doubt a good thing in regards to harassment.

Gotta love it how women complain about the lack of men that approach them in Switzerland, yet in London they complain about men being too forward and giving them compliments (sorry "harassment").

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The best places for single men are parts of asia (especially Philippines and Thailand), eastern europe, russia, and brazil.
Too de loo- bon voyage- you'll be sorely missed.
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A sociopath will stay single forever in Zurich
FTFY

I seemed to do alright as a single man in Zurich, but then, see, it helps if you actually like women.
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I seemed to do alright as a single man in Zurich, but then, see, it helps if you actually like women.
Interesting logic. Do you also think women who fight for women's rights also hate men?
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Interesting logic. Do you also think women who fight for women's rights also hate men?
I don't give a shit. I like women. Women tend to like me. Apparently they don't seem to like you very much.

One can draw one's own conclusions from that.
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No it is horrible for single men. Swiss women are prude, uptight, and too serious. A single man will stay single forever in Zurich. Even many Swiss men are dating foreigners from Eastern Europe now.
I have a Swiss (girl) friend who says she only dates foreign men because she says she finds Swiss aloof and cold. I find that funny but I don't have experience dating (Swiss) men.

A friend from London moved to Switzerland to live with his Swiss GF (they had already lived together in London) and start a family, and after 6 months she broke up. He intended to continue there (he had a good job and spoke the language); he even had another Swiss-Italian GF (she broke up again) and he decided to move back to London and never look back. Now he has been dating an American girl for a while.
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Re: London vs Zurich

OfficeGirl, I have never lived in London but often visit for work/personal reasons (very happily), and I have not had issues meeting people/men when out and about. I have lived in Zurich and had no issues meeting people/men there either. I don't think the Zurich dating scene is as bad as some folks paint it to be, at least for a single woman. I am not a man and I am straight, so I cannot comment on how hard/easy it is to meet/date a woman in either location.

I find that (1) not being obsessed/desperate about being in a relationship, but focusing on making friends; (2) getting out there and doing things you enjoy (sports, concerts, clubs, etc.); and (3) being honest about what you want/who you are, will do the trick.

A bit off topic, but I have never understood why some people (men or women) feel the need to put down others to feel better about themselves. I am equally annoyed by the folks who say "all women from X,Y,Z countries are lying b****s" as by folks who say "there are no decent men around". I think there are a lot of insecure people out there who could go back to the "grow a (figurative) pair" and "high school is over" lessons to deal with said insecurities.

Having said that, the old adage "pay peanuts, get monkeys" tends to be true: if you are insecure, chances are you will get pushed around by a less-than-caring partner, ad if you are looking for a puppet that says "yes" to your every whim, no questions asked, don't be surprised if said "partner" doesn't give a darn about you, but cares about your wallet/visa/size of boobs/etc. and once that's gone...adios!
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Re: London vs Zurich

And London commuters on buses and tube trains are so outgoing and friendly you can use the 1.5 hours to do chatting up.

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1.5 hours sometimes to go less than a mile on the bus, it amazed me to no end how long it could take to get places.
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No it is horrible for single men. Swiss women are prude, uptight, and too serious. A single man will stay single forever in Zurich.
But then again London isn't any better with all the self entitled feminists.

Can't win either way.
Based on that thinking both Zurich and London would be teeming with single men looking for partners which is clearly not the case.
There are lots of people, Swiss and foreign alike, in Zurich and the rest of Switzerland who are either happily married or in a relationship and they must have got together somehow.
Likewise for London.

Maybe it's not the women who are the problem and you should look a bit closer to home to find out why you have so little success with women.
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Re: London vs Zurich

btw somebody mentioned that Eastern Europe is pretty good place for single men, but it is also for single women. So, Office girl, if you`d like to move to Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia or Serbia, you will do just fine )
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Interesting logic. Do you also think women who fight for women's rights also hate men?
No they don't, the 2 are NOT related!! Come on get real … Swisserlanded!
Do you believe what you say or are you on a mission to 'rattle cages'?

How old are you? are you from a different era? Do we 'modern' women scare you? Did you not agree to us having the vote?

When I read what you have written I feel annoyed at your out dated, aggressive, ignorant, bigoted, racist and misogynistic views (ooh the list goes on and on!) but then I also feel sorry for you, you come across as a very unhappy, bitter person that has been unlucky in life. I seriously think you need some joy in your life!

You would not last a second in London best stay in Switzerland!

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And London commuters on buses and tube trains are so outgoing and friendly you can use the 1.5 hours to do chatting up.
ha ha ha very funny! NEVER speak to a London commuter it is an unwritten rule!!
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Old 03.11.2014, 21:31
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No they don't, the 2 are NOT related!! Come on get real … Swisserlanded!
Do you believe what you say or are you on a mission to 'rattle cages'?

How old are you? are you from a different era? Do we 'modern' women scare you? Did you not agree to us having the vote?

When I read what you have written I feel annoyed at your out dated, aggressive, ignorant, bigoted, racist and misogynistic views (ooh the list goes on and on!) but then I also feel sorry for you, you come across as a very unhappy, bitter person that has been unlucky in life. I seriously think you need some joy in your life!

You would not last a second in London best stay in Switzerland!



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I'm a single 34 year old woman so the dating scene is quite important to me but i'm also looking to settle somewhere permanently.
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...and from what I have read on online forums Swiss men don't seem to approach women so it seems that London is a better option for dating.
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Any views/advice would be much appreciated!
It would be unconscionable for me not to comment. But I must just once.

Swiss men?..... .....Buahahahah........ You'd be better off with a robot.

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Re: London vs Zurich

Funny you should say that because THE best conversation I have ever had to date with a total stranger on the London tube system during the morning work rush hour was with a Swiss Lawyer!

We rapped/chatted/gas bagged liked we'd known each other for ever. I've rarely met anyone cooler since then.

What I'd give to run into her again - here, London - in fact, anywhere...

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ha ha ha very funny! NEVER speak to a London commuter it is an unwritten rule!!

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Thanks guys…the dating scene in Singapore is awful for western women which is one of the reasons that I want to relocate to Europe…most Western women are not into Asian guys…(and Asian guys are not into Western women)!
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Good reason for that. Asian women are more feminine, and more likely to look after a man and treat him better. This is why you see so many western guys with Asian women. On the flip side most western women don't like Asian guys cause they find them too short, and know that Asian men are used to being looked after by Asian women. Most western women simply cannot compete with Asian women these days. A lot of western women no longer posses basic home making skills such as cooking, cleaning, Etc.
believe me, Asian man dreams to date a western woman regardless your age or cooking skills. I know some not very exceptional/beautiful western women in EU standard are considered as angels in Asian guys' eyes and treated as Queens after marriage.

PS: I am a single, young professional also dreaming to date a western woman but just don't know how to begin/approach. lol
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Re: London vs Zurich

London is huge is can be really lonesome place, but you do feel you are in one of the centres of the world and has a buzz. I left in 2007 and had visited it a few times this year – confirm the comments by others that London had changed tremendously.

Zurich has better quality of life, especially for families, but I struggle with the mentality and the quality of jobs on offer (in the latter UK has more to offer). If you have family in Switzerland, that would be extremely useful for support once you have your own family.

I would take whatever had been said in this thread for information only AND FOLLOW my own gut feeling. After all moving into one place does not mean you will have to spend your life there. Who knows, you may end up in New York! Good luck whatever you decide.
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