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No, I wasn't meant to do that!
Now you'll have to carry the blot of breaking the iron rule, aka silence, for the rest of your life.
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Re: London vs Zurich

I just read that Switzerland is the most desirable location in the world to relocate to. I get to be there three months per year when I am not in the US. Trying to learn German and it is REALLY a challenge not living there full time. I think if you speak French and want to learn more German, Zurich would be great. Don't know about the dating scene...
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No they don't, the 2 are NOT related!! Come on get real … Swisserlanded!
Do you believe what you say or are you on a mission to 'rattle cages'?

How old are you? are you from a different era? Do we 'modern' women scare you? Did you not agree to us having the vote?

When I read what you have written I feel annoyed at your out dated, aggressive, ignorant, bigoted, racist and misogynistic views (ooh the list goes on and on!) but then I also feel sorry for you, you come across as a very unhappy, bitter person that has been unlucky in life. I seriously think you need some joy in your life!

You would not last a second in London best stay in Switzerland!

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1.5 hours sometimes to go less than a mile on the bus, it amazed me to no end how long it could take to get places.
What about walking?
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No, I wasn't meant to do that!
You realize that with that 'ps' you may have persuaded the OP to give a chance to Zurich?
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I left in 2007 and had visited it a few times this year – confirm the comments by others that London had changed tremendously.
I haven't been in London since 2000 (on a week's holidays). What changes should I expect to see if I go back?
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I haven't been in London since 2000 (on a week's holidays). What changes should I expect to see if I go back?
- gbp/chf down from 2.4 to 1.5
- many shops closed down, some recovery since the worst of it
- house prices went up
- rents went up massively
- taxes went up

from an economic point of view, much worse conditions, esp. if you don't already have a house there as it is now impossible for most to buy and very expensive to rent.
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@mattalex - sorry but I'm just not sexually attracted to Asian men. Asia's also a big place and it depends where you're referring to. I've dated a couple of Indian guys which was a complete catastrophe. It's just much harder for western women to date non-western men because of the need to be accepted by the extended family. Asian men also tend to be physically smaller and skinnier and have an extremely pragmatic outlook on life. Extreme pragmatism is not sexy - men are supposed to peacock around women; that's the way seduction works to a greater or lesser extent depending on the cultural context.

@ Switzerlanded - I somewhat agree with some of what you say. Hardcore feminism and gender equality is destructive to society.
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To Switzerlanded: I'm not sure how well you know Asia but I'm based in Singapore not the Philippines or Thailand...most Singaporean Chinese women do not fit the description you made of Asian women...most of them don't know how to cook, have no household skills and are very career minded. I will grant you that many office girls are slim and feminine but they are on a par with girls from New York or the city in London. And for the rest of the population obesity is a growing problem like everywhere else. Bear in mind that Chinese culture is such that many are extremely hard nosed and will not stop at anything to get what they want including a white guy even if he's married...Chinese women do prefer Caucasian men and many of these men just get completely manipulated...
I'm not Singaporean, nor am I Thai or Filipina, but I originally come from the neighbouring country. So I do understand the perception of girls/women in these countries have. OfficeGirl, you're right, that Singaporean women are different from those Thai and Filipina. Basically because the former have background (economy, status) generally better off than the latter. The latter may have less access to education, have less opportunity, let's say to become office girls. As such, what they could offer is their altruistic skill, cooking skill, household caring skill, etc.. etc.. All of these are used for them to gain better life, even if that requires them to marry someone, especially if they see there are markets for these skills (e.g. Western and Caucasian men who seek for these skills, and are lured by these women's exoticness ). I just wanted to say that it's an overstatement to say that these men get completely manipulated. I'm sure not all of these men believe that these women are willing to marry them because of "love", especially when the age gap is very huge (although some do really get married because of love). I think for many, it's just a contract, in which both parties win or get what they're looking for.
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@ Switzerlanded - I somewhat agree with some of what you say. Hardcore feminism and gender equality is destructive to society.
he's been trolling you and got you to say what he wanted!

hook, line and sinker!
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Asian men also tend to be physically smaller
so size does indeed count
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he's been trolling you and got you to say what he wanted!

hook, line and sinker!
I think that is fair enough. There just might be differences as to what people consider hardcore.

Two reserved seats on a bus doesn't make the cut, IMO
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What about walking?

Had too many bags of groceries (and melting ice cream sadly) or I would have. I actually walked many times where I wouldn't normally want to have because it was quicker!
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@FuriousRose - I was actually referring to Singaporean women when I said "manipulated" but I agree with you regarding the contractual aspect of some of these marriages with traditional Asia. The concept of romantic love is often absent here in Asia even in Singapore. That's one of the reasons so many Asian women want to date Caucasian men because they marry into a love culture and also get treated better than traditional Asian men (marrying for romantic love is a traditionally European idea).

@Dack Rambo - build not size matters 😉 (among other criteria such as character and intelligence) ; I think most women want a man of at least equal or bigger build and vice versa for men.

Back to the subject of Zurich vs London. I was back in London about a month ago and it just seems so expensive and unsafe in addition to the substandard provision of services as pointed out although on the other side it's London and just so exciting and thrilling and full of culture (not sure how long I would feel this way).

I'm tempted by Zurich because long term I would like to settle in Switzerland and my family are based in Geneva. I also think Switzerland is a more egalitarian culture and my financial situation would be better. It's just that I love certain British men for their sense of humour!
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Back to the subject of Zurich vs London. I was back in London about a month ago and it just seems so expensive and unsafe in addition to the substandard provision of services as pointed out although on the other side it's London and just so exciting and thrilling and full of culture (not sure how long I would feel this way).

I'm tempted by Zurich because long term I would like to settle in Switzerland and my family are based in Geneva. I also think Switzerland is a more egalitarian culture and my financial situation would be better. It's just that I love certain British men for their sense of humour!
maybe you can do both. move to london, find a bloke and import him into swizterland.

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@FuriousRose - I was actually referring to Singaporean women when I said "manipulated" but I agree with you regarding the contractual aspect of some of these marriages with traditional Asia. The concept of romantic love is often absent here in Asia even in Singapore. That's one of the reasons so many Asian women want to date Caucasian men because they marry into a love culture and also get treated better than traditional Asian men (marrying for romantic love is a traditionally European idea).
As a Singaporean and having spent most of my life there, I am disturbed and offended by what you have said. You seem to have based your views on what seems be a short stint in Singapore.

Granted that some Asian women do prefer to marry Caucasians for the wrong reasons (mostly monetary), I feel it is backward and close-minded to suggest that most Asians are incapable of marrying for romantic love and that marrying for romantic love is a traditionally European idea. It makes me wonder if we are living in the same century

Most of my Singaporean friends and I have been in relationships with Asian men that have been filled with much love - and yes, romantic love. If I am to make a judgment based on what you have said, then it would mean that most of the couples I know back in Singapore , are not in love but just together for pragmatic reasons. Come on!

Although I am now married to an English man, with whom am madly in love, I have also been in relationships with Asian men and have seen no difference in how most most Asian and Caucasian men treat women. How a person treats another is based on their personality and not race. I also believe that people in loving relationship will naturally treat each other well.

While you are entitled to your opinions and I might be wrong, you seem prejudiced against Asians in general and your views are very condescending towards Asian men and women. While I have observed some of the behavior you've described in Asian and Singaporean women, that's only a small minority. I'm sorry if you've not met the right people in Singapore but you've made some very sweeping statements and nothing could be farther from the truth.

Nonetheless, I hope you make the right choice between London and Zurich. Both have their advantages, but we chose Zurich because we love nature and it's a great place for our two dogs. I do miss the hustle and bustle of a big city though Anyhow, have a nice day
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Re: London vs Zurich

There are loads of Brits In ZH. I think you would have more chance of meeting them in the Brit bars here than in London. And the ones you meet here will have a certain level of education and a decent job
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Hi Tannie, I'm sorry if I offended you but I've been in Singapore for nearly five years now (next May will be five years so far from a short stint) and those are my observations. Many Singaporean Chinese women actively pursue Caucasian men while Singaporean Chinese men marry Vietnamese or Chinese nationals. This is what I observe and is reflected in the newspapers. There was even a televised news debate on Singaporean television exploring why so many Singaporean Chinese women (obviously not all) want to marry Caucasian men. I have no doubt that you are very much in love with your English husband but consider this; do you see/know of many Singaporean Chinese men married to Caucasian women? My observations are that the latter are few and far between. Marrying for romantic love originated out of the Romantic movement in Europe in the early nineteenth century in Europe. Any history book will tell you this.
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Actually, I do know of quite a few Singaporean men married to Caucasian women actually. Not just in Singapore but abroad as well I also still do think what you have observed is a small minority. I barely know any Singaporean men in my social circle who has married a Vietnamese or Chinese national actually. Most of the men who do so lack higher education or if not, are still trapped in the past wanting a subservient sex toy

Yes, there is a rise in Singaporean women marrying Caucasian men but I attribute it mostly to globalization. It's so easy to travel and relocate these days and you are more than likely to meet more different people than you used to. There are now more Caucasians in Singapore than before and interracial marriages are increasingly more common, however, some Singaporeans are still not open to the idea hence all this malarkey in the local media about it. Hell, I even get stares and get labelled an SPG ( am sure you know what that means) whenever I am back home visiting with my husband.

Another reason why I would also take whatever silly debates and newspaper articles in Singaporean media with a pinch of salt. There seems to be increasing discontent with Caucasians in Singapore as some locals seem to think Caucasians have robbed them of high level jobs, women etc, etc. And it doesn't help when some do come to Singapore living in the past, thinking they can still treat Asians like dirt. Plus, the media is so controlled in Singapore, I have a hard time believing anything that is put out there is without agenda these days.

Lastly, I don't think any history book can define where love originates. Yes, maybe you can define an origin for the concept of 'romantic love' but love ultimately is an innate feeling that most humans have that predates time ( man, I feel quite sappy here ).

Anyhow, have to get back to work. If you do move to Zurich, drop me a line. Would be happy to meet and maybe we can continue our debate over some Gin and Tonics or coffee
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So, if according to the previous posts, Zurich does not have a good date scene for women, is it good for men?
I had a male relative work in Zurich for 6 to 12 months and yes he had some problems finding female friends. IMO, a good looking man, money in his pocket, the kind to pay for both himself and female company, gentleman and good company to be in. I do not recall him having a 2nd date, but there again he was only there short term.
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