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Imho Germany's biggest nightmare is those forever-complaining Germans everywhere. Crowds of public crybabies that occupy every single space of society. Luschen und Waschlappen, slimy whimps.
On the other hand, due to massive German immigration to Switzerland, you have them also here. So it's a no-win situation.
yooo, der superatzen Bucentaure steht seinen harten mann in Deutschland:
hart wie kruppstahl, zäh wie leder und flink wie ein wiesel! laughable, really!
if its all so nice and perfect in Germany and youre the last upstanding, defending true German citizen, why youre here then?

i have two things to complain about: ripoff state and bullshit politics.
i live better off here. fact! i am in my bubble and the daily bullshit passes me by unnoticed as i cant vote anyways. thats just great! it keeps my pulse low, life easy with a bit of peasy. so i can complain when asked what bugged me in Germany, in retrospect since i live here. and an opinion is like arseholes: everybodys got one. here is mine.

and your question about run down infrastructure: i was in Berlin, at the brand new HBF. did you ever try to leave a bag in the luggage compartments? 4 floors with 4 money changers... all broken! i wanted to change a fiver at one of the shops: sorry, you have to buy something! i had to take the bus afterwards... no timetable available! had to check the shit online, trillion roaming costs... it was just fantastic! 35degrees, fully loaded with luggage going on an overcrowded bus... after living here i dont see that as adventurous as back then in my teendays in Berlin. as cool as you are, you freeze the sun, eh? walked 15 miles just to show how it easy it was.

then i was in Leipzig, i wanted to go swimming. these opening hours mate, thats like back in socialist times!

Mo. 15:00 - 21:00
Di. 7:00 - 8:00, 17:00 - 22:00
Mi. 15:00 - 21:00
Do. 8:00 - 10:00, 15:00 - 22:00
Fr. Geschlossen
Sa. 8:00 - 16:00
So. 8:00 - 13:00

as tough as you are... you would have jumped in the Heinekanal, eh? if you only knew where that was... City Bad Zurich everyday opens 6-22. yes, such a little thing can make such a big difference for me.

but on the other hand going to a bar in Germany, bartender just looks up from his sports paper, raises the chin and me saying "4 halbe". thats just ace! straightforwardness! no BS-nettiquette! there are soooo many good things of Germany to say, especially those little things that make heart bleed when leaving. but i feel at home when i hit Kloten! when i juts drop at Rentenanstalt and there is no BBQ leftovers, dogdumps or glass around. the lake is clean, alps twinkle in the far back... no, man! i dont want to change back... fin.
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Cuturally, Germany is a much more formal society, always saying Herr So.and.So or Frau So.and.So versus first name. And the Germans are big on their titles and keeping relationships on a Sie level (at least at work). I do like the informality of the Swiss people in this sense, as I don't feel as bad when I slip and use du instead of Sie...
i dont think we are so big on titles, Austria is. but Geramny is a big fan of formality. sie over du, 100% right.
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thats bollocks. if one would do that, he ran out of business. Munich is full of "zugroaste", "isarpreissn"... that does not work and i did not have that in 7 years ever.
err I should have said "understand" rather than "speak" as it happens, but no it isn't bollocks actually, depends on where you shop I suppose, I unfortunately experienced it.

and ask any German person about broetchen and semmel.
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Thanks for this interesting thread folks!

We lived for 6 years in Bonn Germany and overall it was a good experience,despite the huge culture shock when we first went in 2003.

Having now experienced Belgium with it's many cultural problems,I look forward to seeing what Switzerland will hold when I finally get there in summer 2015.

We are having national strikes here 3 mondays in a row and potential power cuts too this winter,so currently Swiss order is pretty appealing!
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err I should have said "understand" rather than "speak" as it happens, but no it isn't bollocks actually, depends on where you shop I suppose, I unfortunately experienced it.

and ask any German person about broetchen and semmel.
ok, what shop did it happen at?
and semmel/brötchen might be one instance, yes.
in return, a semmel would not be understood in any other german city
outside of bavaria. it got nothing to do with location, its about the term.

because you can go and say: guten tag, eine semmel bitte.
you dont need speak bavarian to get served and nobody refuses
to serve you if you dont speak bavarian. a growing number of
people that serve you are east germans and we speak no bavarian accent.
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yooo, der superatzen Bucentaure steht seinen harten mann in Deutschland:
hart wie kruppstahl, zäh wie leder und flink wie ein wiesel! laughable, really!
if its all so nice and perfect in Germany and youre the last upstanding, defending true German citizen, why youre here then?
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Because I'm at home in Switzerland?


Anyhow, I don't say that Germany does not suffer from lack of investment in infrastructure, but rather that also Switzerland has quite the same problem on many layers, and if you compare both to other countries (e.g. to those heavily penalized by German austerity policies), I do blush when I hear the stuff of downsized or closed swimming-pools and a barely working aircondition (btw., apparently outside Zurich, many Swiss public baths are closed, and some trains cannot even make the aircondition run not because it's rotten, but because they don't have any.

This is Switzerland, too.

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Mo.
15:00 - 21:00
Di. 7:00 - 8:00, 17:00 - 22:00
Mi. 15:00 - 21:00
Do.
8:00 - 10:00, 15:00 - 22:00
Fr. Geschlossen
Sa.
8:00 - 16:00
So. 8:00 - 13:00

as tough as you are... you would have jumped in the Heinekanal, eh?


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Leibsch isso nüsch so hees. Pleisse tud's ooch. Ooder fleisch mo einfachmo Wosserhohn ouftuun

But try the onening hours of municipalities in Switzerland.

I needn't go to the pool every day, but sometimes to the local municality, yes I have.

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but on the other hand going to a bar in Germany, bartender just looks up from his sports paper, raises the chin and me saying "4 halbe". thats just ace! straightforwardness! no BS-nettiquette! there are soooo many good things of Germany to say, especially those little things that make heart bleed when leaving. but i feel at home when i hit Kloten! when i juts drop at Rentenanstalt and there is no BBQ leftovers, dogdumps or glass around. the lake is clean, alps twinkle in the far back... no, man! i dont want to change back... fin.
Yeah, sometimes I appreciate this, too. But you have to know the typical habits to get the right idea on that kind of "faked" rudeness.
Btw. got surprised lately when I was watching a Tatort of the 70ies of Stuttgart, and the Inspektor repeatedly ordered local drinks and sandwiches by "Ich krieg noch 'n ...".

I was thinking: What is nicer in Germany than in Switzerland? Well, it depends a bit. I think Schultz, the bounty hunter in “Django Unchained”, is not depicted that bad (minus the language, as normal Germans use much more bad words than would a Swiss). I love that Germans, and it’s a tradition, put in question quite everything and ask for the reason of all possible stuff (imho it’s a myth that they are good followers and obey very well). This is especially attractive for a person who got used to the usual “Like this” as an answer of a “Why?” and “There’s no alternative” and that crap.

What do I like more in Switzerland? Might depend on the region, the canton, linguistic and cultural area. I’m aware that Ticino is not Zurich. I appreciate that Swiss are more stoic in many things, imho they manage better to distinguish what is essential from what is less, there’s a long tradition of freedom and tolerating the other (call it wisdom, if you please to), also if you don’t like him. They love the detail, they don’t have to show off that they are proud of what they’ve done for others and themselves, they offer easy ways of letting go. That's what imho makes them easier than e.g. Germans and Americans, so I'm always astonished when so many users here say that it would be so difficult finding Swiss friends ...
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Re: Expat Living: CH versus GERMANY? Differences/similarities?

I lived 4 years in germany before and now just moved to Zuerich. From what I can tell I think the cultural difference is not that big, in some ways the Swiss seem to be even more 'German' then the Germans are, when you look at the bureaucracy to get anything done here! And the punctuality and stuff...

I also found it really helps so speak German here (even if its not Schweizerdeutsch), and, maybe, it's even 'better' that I speak German but am not German, so I don't have to deal with any anti-german prejudice, either
But yea, I just moved here, so maybe I will spot some more differences and similarities later on.
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I lived 4 years in germany before and now just moved to Zuerich. From what I can tell I think the cultural difference is not that big, in some ways the Swiss seem to be even more 'German' then the Germans are, when you look at the bureaucracy to get anything done here! And the punctuality and stuff...

I also found it really helps so speak German here (even if its not Schweizerdeutsch), and, maybe, it's even 'better' that I speak German but am not German, so I don't have to deal with any anti-german prejudice, either
But yea, I just moved here, so maybe I will spot some more differences and similarities later on.
The truth is, there's just as much difference between the people in various Swiss cantons as there is between the inhabitants of various parts of Germany.

It's really something formed over the centuries, sometimes.

If you think of the Rheinland, where people are often perceived as happier, friendlier, more exuberant: this is no accident. Part of that may be the weather. It's relatively stable during the Summer, Winters aren't that harsh.
Contrast that with most parts of Baden Württemberg (esp. the Black Forest or the mountains in Bavaria), where a sunny day could often quickly turn into a bad storm, Summers were usually short and hot, followed by long and harsh Winters.
People had to make provisions for that - they couldn't waste an hour partying in the Summer. From the long, harsh Winters and the desire to improve on the living conditions by earning an extra income came the invention of the cuckoo-clock - but the same mentality that helps build clocks (perseverance, precision, attention to detail) also helped build a mechanical engineering (and car-) industry that is still number one in the world.
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I only ever met one German from Cologne and she was an absolute ccuunntt . I still hate that city, all because of that biatch. Reason does tell me that it's a nice place though.
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Because I'm at home in Switzerland?


Anyhow, I don't say that Germany does not suffer from lack of investment in infrastructure, but rather that also Switzerland has quite the same problem on many layers, and if you compare both to other countries (e.g. to those heavily penalized by German austerity policies), I do blush when I hear the stuff of downsized or closed swimming-pools and a barely working aircondition (btw., apparently outside Zurich, many Swiss public baths are closed, and some trains cannot even make the aircondition run not because it's rotten, but because they don't have any.

This is Switzerland, too.


Leibsch isso nüsch so hees. Pleisse tud's ooch. Ooder fleisch mo einfachmo Wosserhohn ouftuun

But try the onening hours of municipalities in Switzerland.

I needn't go to the pool every day, but sometimes to the local municality, yes I have.



Yeah, sometimes I appreciate this, too. But you have to know the typical habits to get the right idea on that kind of "faked" rudeness.
Btw. got surprised lately when I was watching a Tatort of the 70ies of Stuttgart, and the Inspektor repeatedly ordered local drinks and sandwiches by "Ich krieg noch 'n ...".

I was thinking: What is nicer in Germany than in Switzerland? Well, it depends a bit. I think Schultz, the bounty hunter in “Django Unchained”, is not depicted that bad (minus the language, as normal Germans use much more bad words than would a Swiss). I love that Germans, and it’s a tradition, put in question quite everything and ask for the reason of all possible stuff (imho it’s a myth that they are good followers and obey very well). This is especially attractive for a person who got used to the usual “Like this” as an answer of a “Why?” and “There’s no alternative” and that crap.

What do I like more in Switzerland? Might depend on the region, the canton, linguistic and cultural area. I’m aware that Ticino is not Zurich. I appreciate that Swiss are more stoic in many things, imho they manage better to distinguish what is essential from what is less, there’s a long tradition of freedom and tolerating the other (call it wisdom, if you please to), also if you don’t like him. They love the detail, they don’t have to show off that they are proud of what they’ve done for others and themselves, they offer easy ways of letting go. That's what imho makes them easier than e.g. Germans and Americans, so I'm always astonished when so many users here say that it would be so difficult finding Swiss friends ...
did i talk about the sticks? these are big(ger) cities, its where i lived.
its all facts that stacked up to the massive annoyence that i have left. also i am not saying any country is garden eden, but what is the difference between germany and switzerland, just as asked by the OP. there was my comment. still i dont see why you downgrade people that were not happy with something, especially the tax system, something you can't do anything about it? i mean Hoeness would have faced here no prision, just a fine.
i am not saying that is correct, but shows the difference between germany and switzerland, the harsh/softneness of this authority. plus i havent heard that a bank account got frozen in, blocked due to tax issues... things i encountered when i missed my declaration. here you can call and figure the crap out and officials are rather helpful. but with no money and food, you would have ripped a boar with bare hands, eh? chapeau!
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did i talk about the sticks? these are big(ger) cities, its where i lived.
Leipzig is smaller than Zurich, if you consider the fact that German municipalities generally count in all the banlieue, villages around included. A Swiss town classically does not.
The point however is that, being Switzerland smaller than Germany, let's assume by comparison that a person in Switzerland in terms of probability is more likely to live in smaller towns or villages than it would be the case if they went to Germany.
And I swear that in Switzerland you don’t have to be in the sticks not having aircondition in a public transport means.

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its all facts that stacked up to the massive annoyence that i have left. also i am not saying any country is garden eden, but what is the difference between germany and switzerland, just as asked by the OP. there was my comment. still i dont see why you downgrade people that were not happy with something, especially the tax system, …
It’s a pity that we are reducing a country’s value down to a tax-system Level here. A part that there are reasons why Germans pay higher taxes than an average Swiss does in CH (partially public welfare, rebuilding of the devastated East, …), it’s not that Germans are starving from famine (they just complain that they would. I’m aware that some have difficulties, but what you fail to see is that this is also the case in Switzerland, imho ZH included).

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i mean Hoeness would have faced here no prision, just a fine.
I’m glad that this criminal is in jail, where he belongs.

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i am not saying that is correct, but shows the difference between germany and switzerland, the harsh/softneness of this authority. plus i havent heard that a bank account got frozen in, blocked due to tax issues... things i encountered when i missed my declaration. here you can call and figure the crap out and officials are rather helpful!

You might have a point in easy bureaucratic stuff, however your impression on judicial, executive power in CH imho is completely wrong.
Also Swiss efficiency in my eyes is not superior to the Nordic version in Germany or Scandinavia, in the contrary. As Kishon says, home is where you get furious with your local bureaucracy, and yes, sometimes I could kill them all and I feel sorry that we removed the guillotine for public employees too early.
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officials are rather helpful.
If it’s easy stuff, yes. Same in Germany (of course except Berlin, as it seems).

What I don’t understand is why so many Germans in Switzerland on the one hand complain all the time about those terrible cold, silly and stupid Swiss, as if Switzerland were on an alien planet, on the other hand they still continue complaining about Germany, too, how terrible it was to abide the law (i.e. paying taxes) and how sweet cute Switzerland’s landscape is, if again there weren’t those silly natives. Thank God at least they hit the jackpot getting a well-paid job in a postcard-country (that we can call ‘Heidiland’) with their crappy German Ausbildung.
This is imho a terrible reduction of what both, Switzerland and Germany, are.



N.B. I'm very critical about German public opinion (or German published media opinion) is, what it has become in the last years after the reunification and especially with Merkel, but this is only one part of Germany.
The tax system is another, but there are endless more for sure that enter in a calculation of a consideration if a country is more or less livible. There's much more to Germany than a crappy tax system, a corrupted public opinion, the Eastern part that I hate like the pest, Merkel and austerity policies imposed on PIGS. Like there's more to Switzerland than nice landscapes, good jobs and an easy bureaucracy.
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The swiss public employees are awesome, they offer very fast service (even changing the driver licence took only one day to a plastic Driver licence for my wallet). I arrived at the office at monday afternoon, received the driver licence
wendesday morning in my post box.
Thats impossible in germany(would take at least 2 weeks).
When i moved to bale , i deregistered at 07.30am in Zurich and registered at 09.15am in Bale, that would take 2 days in Germany.
Can't be better service
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...When i moved to bale , i deregistered at 07.30am in Zurich and registered at 09.15am in Bale, that would take 2 days in Germany.
Can't be better service
When I was still living in Germany and moved from one city to another, I simply registered in the latter, without deregistering in the former.
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2 weeks?
2 days?
OMG! WTFBBQ!

blackbird, you're talking about mundane processes executed many times a day. I bet your new permit took a few weeks to be produced when you moved
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Might be that easy bureaucratic stuff is easier in Switzerland than elsewhere.


However, the critical factor should be the more complicated cases bureaucracy has to handle with. And on that field Switzerland can be a real nightmare. Can be.


If it were that Switzerland's only plus point is easy admin, no one would need this forum btw.
And as not everybody comes from inefficient crappy countries, Switzerland would lack of immigration from many countries. But it doesn't.
So there must be more.
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in return, a semmel would not be understood in any other german city
outside of bavaria. it got nothing to do with location, its about the term.

because you can go and say: guten tag, eine semmel bitte.
you dont need speak bavarian to get served and nobody refuses
to serve you if you dont speak bavarian. a growing number of
people that serve you are east germans and we speak no bavarian accent.
actually semmel is a word that in German means breadcrumbs - why should anyone understand a DIALECT outside of where the dialect is spoken? it's the same as expecting that every English speaking person should understand when I say your poor trouble and strife must be a long suffering woman.
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Very good post Flo, thanks. Aren't you concerned by all the anti-foreigener rhetoric in the Swiss media? If you had a family here, wouldn't you prefer to move back to Germany? (Germany does give better tax breaks for children than CH)

There is NOT much of anti-foreigner rethoric in the Swiss media. You possibly are subscribed to the Weltwoche which once, for ages, was a very respectable weekly newspaper, before it was turned into a propaganda channel for xenophobes and jingoists
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semmelbrösel are breadcrumbs made of semmel. so thats slightly wrong semmel means brösel. eventually semmel is not understood in berlin where a breadroll can be a schrippe. to make bavaria an unliveable place because of a word... gute nacht!

@bucentaure: dude, its my effing experience and/or opinion (i gathered in berlin, leipzig and munich... places i was either born in, studied and lived for quiet a while) i gave to the OP! you made different ones, fine! good for you, really! also im still loving germany for all its massive positive aspects, no doubt! eg i wished CH had späties or more 24h petrol stations, etc, pp. i like my people, lingo, all its characteristics. pegida eventually not.

also complaining about swiss being cold n stuff, that i did not make much swiss friends does not have any impact that it makes me want to leave CH. i live in my expat bubble comfortably fine, im 3h away from Munich... peeps come here... so what more do i want? i made the right decision, i live hassle free, the small things make the difference for me. if i get ask, i let peeps know. also im not crying about things: i changed it! for me for the better. yeah, maybe nordics is superior to CH. doesnt matter to me as im here and again: fully happy.
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Re: Expat Living: CH versus GERMANY? Differences/similarities?

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i live in my expat bubble comfortably fine
Once you have your comfortable expat bubble set up, you can live quite nicely here. It's a good solution for middle aged folk. Younger people may find it a little boring though.
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Re: Expat Living: CH versus GERMANY? Differences/similarities?

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There is NOT much of anti-foreigner rethoric in the Swiss media. You possibly are subscribed to the Weltwoche which once, for ages, was a very respectable weekly newspaper, before it was turned into a propaganda channel for xenophobes and jingoists
I have to disagree with you. You can find lots of anti-foreigener stories in all German language papers.
Le Temps is the one Swiss paper I have found which does not carry such stories.
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