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Old 31.12.2014, 12:19
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And yet a lot more of my friends keep saying they want to quit but don't really manage to... I guess they don't try hard enough? It's just that for some people it's harder or near damn impossible to quit when the biology disagrees. Have you actually managed to give it up before and thus know that you can actually do it?
The two people who were the heaviest smokers I knew (one here and one in the U.K.) and who had been smoking for over forty years, both gave up without too much difficulty - and with no relapse.

They both had similar experiences in that firstly, both were told by their doctors that they would die soon unless they gave up and secondly, they both used Zyban to help them give up.

They were the two people that I was absolutely sure would never be able to give up and would carry on smoking until their graves.
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Old 31.12.2014, 12:35
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You really are getting jittery.

So, are you going to give up the habit or not?
So, you're a closet smokerbater. I also gave up many, many years ago, and I know that just about the least helpful thing you can do is to nag smokers to give up.

The beauty of e-cigs is that you feel that you're doing something positive, taking a step forwards and moving on to something new. Psychologically, just giving up smoking seems a negative thing - a backward step.
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You really are getting jittery.

So, are you going to give up the habit or not?
Tom, you mistake being "jittery", for simply wondering why you are in a thread being needlessly negative to, and baiting, smokers who want to quit. Seems like you have some issues of your own to sort out if you think it is in any way a normal thing to do. It's just pretty sad behaviour, whether you realise it or not.

I now don't smoke tobacco cigarettes (after many years of doing so), I smoke an e-cigarette, and am happy sticking with that as I now smoke it less and less and it has made a clear difference to my previous habits, not to mention my lung capacity, taste and smell).
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Old 31.12.2014, 13:35
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Tom, you mistake being "jittery", for simply wondering why you are in a thread being needlessly negative to, and baiting, smokers who want to quit. Seems like you have some issues of your own to sort out if you think it is in any way a normal thing to do. It's just pretty sad behaviour, whether you realise it or not.

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I think my last post was pretty helpful advice to those who want to give up both smoking and nicotine addition.

Where are your useful posts on this thread?
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I think my last post was pretty helpful advice to those who want to give up both smoking and nicotine addition.

Prior to that Tom, whn youi were acting like a complete twit, they were about as useful as a chocolate fireguard.

Where are your useful posts on this thread?
At the start, before you were acting like said twit.
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Old 31.12.2014, 15:12
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At the start, before you were acting like said twit.
Okay, I see it like this.
  1. Whilst e-cigarettes (containing nicotine) may be a helpful way to stop people smoking, they are an unproven way to help people give up nicotine addiction.
  2. Although there would appear to not be any harmful effects of e-cigarette use, there have been no real controlled and regulated studies carried out.
  3. I feel we may be opening a can of worms with normalising their use - what narcotics could be introduced in the future that could be be administered with an inhalation method?
  4. Once that lid is off, it's going to be difficult to put it back on again.

I don't think they should be on sale. If people really want to give up smoking, there are plenty of methods that are safe and work with little will-power*

*Of course you'll need the tiniest amount of will power in even the easiest method and I appreciate that some people mistake lack of will-power for enjoyment.
(The enjoyment is in the relieving of the cravings - rather like an alcoholic relieving the withdrawal symptoms from alcohol deprivation with that morning vodka as opposed to winding-down on a Friday night with a couple of beers or even enjoying a cigar now and again).

I hope that is not too twitty for you, Richdog?
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Forget the e-cig, now there's the e-joint, aka the cannacig!

Tom
That's the one for the uptight non smokers or the even worse EX smokers!!
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Old 01.01.2015, 17:19
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That's the one for the uptight non smokers or the even worse EX smokers!!
Congratulations for finally giving up smoking, Patsycat!

In a week you'll feel so much better and wonder what all the fuss was about.
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Re: purchase of e-cigarettes

What's the rationale behind banning eliquids with nicotine in Switzerland?
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Old 03.01.2017, 19:18
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What's the rationale behind banning eliquids with nicotine in Switzerland?
From how I understand it e-cigarettes are under the law of foodstuffs (Lebensmittel). I know, doesn't make sense. Nicotine isn't.
So I guess the e-cigarettes are not taxed like tobacco ..... if they allowed nicotine they would have to be.

As a smoker I find the e-cigarettes ridicoulos. Without nicotine it's what - a toy to look cool?! Out of fashion, no? With nicotine it is what - an embarrassing addiction?

weren't you the one who said he quit smoking and is down to 2 e-cigarettes a day? If stopping is your desire, why would you want to add nicotine to those two a day now?
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Re: purchase of e-cigarettes

Actually I'm down to 2-3 regular cigarettes. I just can't stop my morning coffee and after-dinner regular smoking rituals
As for the ecigarette thing, I got some Virginia tobacco taste 6mg nicotine liquid from Germany.
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Old 03.01.2017, 20:07
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Actually I'm down to 2-3 regular cigarettes. I just can't stop my morning coffee and after-dinner regular smoking rituals
As for the ecigarette thing, I got some Virginia tobacco taste 6mg nicotine liquid from Germany.
Yeah, I hear you

What's the fun in the e-cigarette? 6mg nicotine are you sure?! I got a pack here from a friend who stores hers here for her visits (some people are weird, yes) it says 0.4 mg?
I wouldn't know as I roll my own .... part of the ritual. They don't print that stuff on the packaging and my papers are 100% chemical free (apart from the sticky bit), which I import from Germany.
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Old 03.01.2017, 20:20
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Actually I'm down to 2-3 regular cigarettes. I just can't stop my morning coffee and after-dinner regular smoking rituals
As for the ecigarette thing, I got some Virginia tobacco taste 6mg nicotine liquid from Germany.
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Yeah, I hear you

What's the fun in the e-cigarette? 6mg nicotine are you sure?! I got a pack here from a friend who stores hers here for her visits (some people are weird, yes) it says 0.4 mg?
I wouldn't know as I roll my own .... part of the ritual. They don't print that stuff on the packaging and my papers are 100% chemical free (apart from the sticky bit), which I import from Germany.
Actually that vaping experience is really weird; it's fun when gaming and reading though And hey, I roll too I just googled and found out 6mg is ok for me. Very scientific, eh?! Taste is like day'n night compared to regular tobacco btw. It has to do with the quality of the liquid I got or maybe the device I use. I also ordered some high quality liquid from the States --takes too long to arrive and waiting sucks

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Old 03.01.2017, 21:17
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Actually that vaping experience is really weird; it's fun when gaming and reading though And hey, I roll too I just googled and found out 6mg is ok for me. Very scientific, eh?! Taste is like day'n night compared to regular tobacco btw. It has to do with the quality of the liquid I got or maybe the device I use. I also ordered some high quality liquid from the States --takes too long to arrive and waiting sucks
Google is your friend ...... it tells you to inhale more than 10 times the nicotine of a normal cigarette?
Taste is like day and night ... meaning you prefer it? But the tobacco is gone and it's not the nicotine that gives the taste.
What's the weakest nicotin-content e-cigarette available then? (And WTF is the non-nicotine/non tobacco one about?)
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Google is your friend ...... it tells you to inhale more than 10 times the nicotine of a normal cigarette?
Taste is like day and night ... meaning you prefer it? But the tobacco is gone and it's not the nicotine that gives the taste.
What's the weakest nicotin-content e-cigarette available then? (And WTF is the non-nicotine/non tobacco one about?)
10 times I'm not a tech guy but I guess it depends on the setting (ohm, watt, coil type, sub-ohm vaping etc). I haven't counted how many times I inhale though, it depends on my mood
As for the taste, it's not good compared to smoking a rolled tobacco. It should be about the low quality liquid I bought though. My expectations are high for the American one
The weakest nicotine content afaik is 1.5mg.
Non-tobacco/non-nicotine ones are there just for a different experience I guess. I haven't thought about it tbh. I have some strawberry cream liquid and it's for my cheesecake craving
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Old 03.01.2017, 22:00
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Re: purchase of e-cigarettes

What do you recommend for liquids? I use Joyetech stuff from the US but interested to hear about other liquids

(Yes, I am a smoker as well)
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10 times I'm not a tech guy but I guess it depends on the setting (ohm, watt, coil type, sub-ohm vaping etc). I haven't counted how many times I inhale though, it depends on my mood
As for the taste, it's not good compared to smoking a rolled tobacco. It should be about the low quality liquid I bought though. My expectations are high for the American one
The weakest nicotine content afaik is 1.5mg.
Non-tobacco/non-nicotine ones are there just for a different experience I guess. I haven't thought about it tbh. I have some strawberry cream liquid and it's for my cheesecake craving
Yeah well maybe your 6mg is the whole bottle, while her 0.4mg is one cigarette. <<strawberry cream liquid>> yaaack (sorry).
<<As for the taste, it's not good compared to smoking a rolled tobacco>> then what would be the appeal? It's obviously not "healthier"? No tar?
I think I'll stay with the good ol' fashioned thing.
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Re: purchase of e-cigarettes

Well, thus far, I bought like pretty unknown brands. I wouldn't recommend any of them. I'm now waiting for Halo liquids from the States. I want to try Black Note (British I guess) but it's very expensive
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Well, thus far, I bought like pretty unknown brands. I wouldn't recommend any of them. I'm now waiting for Halo liquids from the States. I want to try Black Note (British I guess) but it's very expensive
It all sounds more like smoking shisha (which I don't like) than tobacco.
Still, keep me posted on your research.

It's apparantly socially better accepted ..... an other reason why it's probably not for me
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