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Re: Zurich vs Bern ?

Zürich is nice.

Also, other threads about such original dilemas are nice.
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Zurich is always ranked as the most livable city in the surveys.
What made Zurich ranked the most livable city in the world?
Why was Zurich ranked higher than the other Swiss cities?
Please tell your analysis.
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Zurich is always ranked as the most livable city in the surveys.
What made Zurich ranked the most livable city in the world?
Why was Zurich ranked higher than the other Swiss cities?
Please tell your analysis.

there are several aspects


A) Zürich / Turicum was established by the Romans due to its Location, and still is based on that Location


B) Alfred von Escher in 1848 promised to make Zürich the DEFACTO Capital of Switzerland, and kept word


C) Zürich is sitting around lakes and rivers and small mountains


D) Zürich almost always was dominated by people from other areas, other places, other countries --- examples
Ulrich Zwingli from the Toggenburg
H. Pestalozzi of Italy origin
Mr Baur of Austria origin
Vladimir Ulyanov from Russia
-- who brought new ideas


E) Zürich for Ages welcomed cultures People (poets, musicians, writers, scientists) from outside, and was open for progressive ideas and for Innovation
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Old 20.02.2015, 09:41
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Re: Zurich

OP knows to start a popular thread.
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Old 20.02.2015, 09:56
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Re: Zurich

It must be the banking which centered on Zurich, probably due to the merchants trading there in the olden days.

Once foreigners started arriving to keep their wealth in a stable neutral country, word spread about the delightful city.

Unfortunately, like most of Europe, much of what has been built in the 50s to 80s is from concrete, and this has made the city look very grey.

With the new wealth came a certain arrogance from the Zurichois, that "their" accumulated money makes them superior. I haven't seen this arrogance in Geneva. But personally I find both cities unattractive to live in, but for different reasons.
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Old 20.02.2015, 10:00
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Re: Zurich vs Bern ?

Because such surveys are written by people who think that having the buses run on time makes a city a good place to live.
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Old 20.02.2015, 11:11
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Re: Zurich vs Bern ?

because in my eyes Bern is dead after 6pm, same for the sticks/rest of cantons.
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Old 20.02.2015, 11:31
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Zurich is always ranked as the most livable city in the surveys.
What made Zurich ranked the most livable city in the world?
Why was Zurich ranked higher than the other Swiss cities?
Please tell your analysis.
This sounds like a survey; you should do your own research - asking a bunch of people you don't know doesn't give the correct statistical analysis I assume you need. Plus it's lazy.
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Zurich is always ranked as the most livable city in the surveys.
What made Zurich ranked the most livable city in the world?
Why was Zurich ranked higher than the other Swiss cities?
Please tell your analysis.
Zurich, despite being nothing more than an overgrown village, is still the biggest city in Switzerland. That's why it often shows up in such rankings while the other, smaller cities do not.
(With the exception of Geneva which is internationally well known due to the UN and all the other international organisations there.)
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because in my eyes Bern is dead after 6pm, same for the sticks/rest of cantons.
For your information, my local co-op changed it's hours and is now open until super, super late -- 8 pm (and not only on Thursdays). It's totally a happening place now.
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Re: Zurich vs Bern ?

According to the Opening Hours Barometer, Zermatt is the happeningest city in all of Switzerland -- its (one and only) Coop is open till 20:00, every day of the week!
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Zurich, despite being populated by grey zombies and trust fund anarchists, has the benefit of being located over a "thin" portal whereby one may enter the Twilight Lands and frolic with the subjects of Queen Mab.

Bern, on the other hand, has robot dinosaurs.

It's all about individual preferences, really.
My daughter would be so much happier here in Bern if there were robot dinosaurs roaming around
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Re: Zurich vs Bern ?

Zurich is definitely a strange city. A lot of people are definitely caught up in the "pursuit of money" game, and thus can be quite cold and distant. A lot of people are very settled into their worklives and small, close-knit social groups and don't tend to branch out very much.

That is not to say that it is IMPOSSIBLE to break into engaging with Zurich.... it just will take a bit of time and effort.

Bern is more folksy, a more relaxed city. Probably a bit easier to meet and make friends there than in Zurich. Also, the surrounding natue can be less crowded than in Zurich, which some people prefer. Bear in mind though, even in Zurich, you only need to travel 40 minutes to find some new, uncrowded nature to ruminate in.

As stated before, both cities are clean.
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Re: Zurich vs Bern ?

How about Zurich vs Geneva or Lausanne?
I have not traveled to Switzerland.
The other Swiss cities look beautiful and great to live.
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Re: Zurich vs Bern ?

Basically Zurich is bigger, richer and more diverse than any other City here.

Whatever your hobby / preference / food preference, unless it is very much something mainstream Swiss, you are likely to find more of it in Zurich than anywhere else.

Yes, there, I said it.
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Re: Zurich vs Bern ?

I'm going to apply the adrianlondon Starbucks algorithm: if you like Zürich, go and live in it. If you don't, don't.
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Re: Zurich vs Bern ?

Personally, I prefer Berne, because it is smaller, slower, more homely. I'd go and live as close as possible to school or work if I were you
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Re: Zurich vs Bern ?

I love living in bern! Nightlife (or lack of) is my main complaint but other than that it is beautiful, relaxed and easy going.

There was a time when there was a direct flight from belp to my hometown. If they ever bring it back bern would reach perfection for me!
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It must be the banking which centered on Zurich, probably due to the merchants trading there in the olden days.

Once foreigners started arriving to keep their wealth in a stable neutral country, word spread about the delightful city.

Unfortunately, like most of Europe, much of what has been built in the 50s to 80s is from concrete, and this has made the city look very grey.

With the new wealth came a certain arrogance from the Zurichois, that "their" accumulated money makes them superior. I haven't seen this arrogance in Geneva. But personally I find both cities unattractive to live in, but for different reasons.

> Zürich in the 1950ies/60ies based on the stuff built between 1000-AD and then, looked MUCH greyer than now, MUCH greyer


> Banks ? came to Zürich fairly late. Alfred vpn Escher needed a convenient bank for his Projects and so established his own the SCHWEIZERISCHE KREDITANSTALT SKA-CS ------ Banking came into full swing between 1900 and 1914 and after 1920, with Company owners needing credits


> arrogance =? ever asked those ARROGANTLINGE about their origin. Ever realised that lots of them speak,
Bärntüütsch -- Solothurnerisch
Aargauerisch
Innerschwiizerisch
Bündnerisch
St.Gallerisch
Ever been to Zürich beyond your housebank =?
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Old 21.02.2015, 06:54
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> Zürich in the 1950ies/60ies based on the stuff built between 1000-AD and then, looked MUCH greyer than now, MUCH greyer


> Banks ? came to Zürich fairly late. Alfred vpn Escher needed a convenient bank for his Projects and so established his own the SCHWEIZERISCHE KREDITANSTALT SKA-CS ------ Banking came into full swing between 1900 and 1914 and after 1920, with Company owners needing credits


> arrogance =? ever asked those ARROGANTLINGE about their origin. Ever realised that lots of them speak,
Bärntüütsch -- Solothurnerisch
Aargauerisch
Innerschwiizerisch
Bündnerisch
St.Gallerisch
Ever been to Zürich beyond your housebank =?
Thanks Wolli, I see you are up early too.

I understand what you mean, and I base my views on my many visits to Zurich, including customer service visits in the Zurich city & region, (I worked for a company for 15 years, in Thurgauerstr 50, Oerlikon) and whilst most Zurich citizens are very pleasant, you must agree that Zurich does attract the "greedy & showing off" type. Too much money corrupts, and one gets the idea that Zurich citizens look down on anyone with less salary, and especially at people in Basel who actually have to work for their money. I have met similar people in Munich and in Vienna, it is best to avoid them as most of them know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
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