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This is most un-Swiss. Usually here, when a guest is invited to someone's house, say for dinner or an overnight stay, the guest presents the host with a bill with bank payment slip, to cover such incidental expenses as his travelling costs, bus fares etc., loss of earnings, which he would otherwise have received, had he not been invited out, etc. Maybe also, if there are children involved, the cost of a baby sitter, etc.

It is ridiculous to expect that host, who, having invited a guest in order to benefit from that guest's company, should send him/her (the guest) home uncompensated and empty handed.
What? Certainly not! If I want to pay for this type of service, hotels will be a much better place to be. If I am staying at friends for a few days, I will bring them gifts, invite them out but don't they dare showing me a bill!?!

You invite people over to help out, not to profit of their misfortune.

I treat my friends as friends not as money shitting cow. I hope you do tax report on the money you are doing on your guests back?
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Old 01.01.2015, 17:46
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What? Certainly not! If I want to pay for this type of service, hotels will be a much better place to be. If I am staying at friends for a few days, I will bring them gifts, invite them out but don't they dare showing me a bill!?!

You invite people over to help out, not to profit of their misfortune.

I treat my friends as friends not as money shitting cow. I hope you do tax report on the money you are doing on your guests back?
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Re: Colleague trying to get money

I can't believe people are seriously suggesting paying 200chf! ! What planet are you living on?

Tell the woman to piss off and to never contact you again.
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Old 01.01.2015, 18:04
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I can't believe people are seriously suggesting paying 200chf! ! What planet are you living on?

Tell the woman to piss off and to never contact you again.
Yes, I was thinking that too. Also if she pays CHF 200 it could give the impression that there might have been an agreement about cost or something (or it could look like a concession) and could cause more problems, don't you think?
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Humor, Nil. Humor. Read it again in that light.
it was a tough party last night....
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Seems a bit 15.
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Old 01.01.2015, 19:50
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I know! Mental! But I've found it to be quite common.

I had a friend coming to stay with me for a few nights, but then she wanted to bring another friend, and we didn't have room. They (Swiss) stayed in a studio that belonged to another friend of ours (Swiss), for two nights…. and yes, he charged them.
I'm shocked. I have never heard of that. Of course, being a decent person, you would pay for any special cost such as long telephone calls, especially if you know that the person cannot afford it, and you bring nice bottle of wine or something. But to have guests pay - never heard that.

From a legal perspective, any right to payment requires that there is agreement on the essentials up front. In particular, it was for her to make clear that this was a paid-for service (and, yes, I would also expect that she pays taxes for that). Without that, she has no right - which, unfortunately, does not mean that she cannot lie and cause trouble.

In any event, the one thing that you should avoid is any undocumented / unwitnessed contact. Don't go to her place by yourself to talk things over, don't call her on the phone.
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Old 01.01.2015, 20:20
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OK, So this is what happened:

...Then started yesterday night when I asked her to wash my clothes ( and I had bought the detergents for her at coop ) and she said no...
Maybe OT, but what are you doing asking her to wash your clothes? Where I come from, if someone has opened his or her home to you then you don't ask them to be your laundry lady too. You ask for permission to use the washer and instructions to be sure you don't feck it up. Then they can offer to do your washing if they want, or let you handle it.

That said, a small token amount would be fine to say thanks (enclose in a thank you card, for example) but otherwise ignore her and move on. Don't mention the accusations or anything. Just a simple "thanks for helping me out when my house was broken into" would suffice.
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I can't believe people are seriously suggesting paying 200chf! ! What planet are you living on?

Tell the woman to piss off and to never contact you again.
Imho it's totally out of question that a normal Swiss, or even a normal person would never ask a far acquaintance or any stranger to stay with him in his appartment because of any reason (couchsurfing, uber and all the other crap stuff, excluding maybe one-night dates, in case one is desperate and good-looking, of course ).
So if OP was so stupid to do so, man up and pay something, at least.
End of, after all, tomorrow is another day.
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Old 01.01.2015, 20:50
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Re: Colleague trying to get money

As I said before, depends on your generosity of spirit. However, if you're generous enough to welcome a stranger/acquaintance into your home, you don't charge them afterwards...
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Re: Colleague trying to get money

Yes, I'm with you, Kamarate.
However, if OP did invite himself, knowing that the girl is in deeper need than he/she is, than it's strange not to offer anything and to ask her to wash his/her clothes.


Btw. no wonder the girl thinks her perfume bottles are missing. 2 showers in 10 days ....
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Re: Colleague trying to get money

That is a very specific number. Are you sure it wasn't 18 or 20?

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She told me 19 bottles of perfume were missing.
I lost the will to live reading this thread on about page 1. Just to summarise:
- OP's flat got burgled
- OP stayed at the house of a woman with whom he/she is distantly acquainted while the locks were being changed
- There was no agreement - written or verbal in the prescence of a witness that OP would pay towards the cost of the stay
- OP stayed at this woman's home for 1 week and at least did some basic household chores
- OP asked this woman to do some laundry ( or asked if OP could use the washing machine to do some laundry? ) and was ready to provide own washing powder etc - sorry I was not clear on this one
- OP is now at his/her own flat
- acquaintance is now demanding dosh for the stay and some alleged missing items

Have I got that right so far?

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Maybe OT, but what are you doing asking her to wash your clothes? Where I come from, if someone has opened his or her home to you then you don't ask them to be your laundry lady too. You ask for permission to use the washer and instructions to be sure you don't feck it up. Then they can offer to do your washing if they want, or let you handle it.

That said, a small token amount would be fine to say thanks (enclose in a thank you card, for example) but otherwise ignore her and move on. Don't mention the accusations or anything. Just a simple "thanks for helping me out when my house was broken into" would suffice.

This is exactly what I have done.
I have asked her to wash my clothes, meaning that I bought the detergent and would actually do the job myself.
I was washing HER clothes, ironing them, folding them and putting them in the closet.
And she had a plie, huge pile of clothes. 4 loundry cicles.
When it came my time and I asked, because I am unable to do anything in someone's house without asking, she said NO.

I was also cleaning the pee and poo of her bad behavior dog, that does it in the entire house.

Every single night she would disconnect the lights of the room I was and also the Internet Connnection. And I never complained ...

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Yes, I'm with you, Kamarate.
However, if OP did invite himself, knowing that the girl is in deeper need than he/she is, than it's strange not to offer anything and to ask her to wash his/her clothes.


Btw. no wonder the girl thinks her perfume bottles are missing. 2 showers in 10 days ....
She is not in a deeper need as I was.

She lives in a 3 floors house close to the Lake.

And even though she is not working anymore for 2 years she has a allimony of CHF 7000 from her ex husband.

I just think this is the usual thing for her as I overheard she was trying to get some money out of him telling her Rolex has disapeared and accusing him.

I would see no problem in paying, if this was previously agreed.

But on the day I am leaving, this is simply not correct.
And with all other BS accusations ....
Simply too much.

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Yes, I'm with you, Kamarate.
However, if OP did invite himself, knowing that the girl is in deeper need than he/she is, than it's strange not to offer anything and to ask her to wash his/her clothes.


Btw. no wonder the girl thinks her perfume bottles are missing. 2 showers in 10 days ....
I did not ask her to wash my clothes.
Why on earth woukd I do that?

When I asked her to wash my clothes, I was asking her to use the machine and to do it myself, of course.

I explained more in another post.

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That is a very specific number. Are you sure it wasn't 18 or 20?



I lost the will to live reading this thread on about page 1. Just to summarise:
- OP's flat got burgled
- OP stayed at the house of a woman with whom he/she is distantly acquainted while the locks were being changed
- There was no agreement - written or verbal in the prescence of a witness that OP would pay towards the cost of the stay
- OP stayed at this woman's home for 1 week and at least did some basic household chores
- OP asked this woman to do some laundry ( or asked if OP could use the washing machine to do some laundry? ) and was ready to provide own washing powder etc - sorry I was not clear on this one
- OP is now at his/her own flat
- acquaintance is now demanding dosh for the stay and some alleged missing items

Have I got that right so far?

Cheers,
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I lost the will to live reading this thread on about page 1. Just to summarise:
- OP's flat got burgled. CORRECT. Broken into, all valuables completely gone.
- OP stayed at the house of a woman with whom he/she is distantly acquainted while the locks were being changed. CORRECT. Now I am at a BB style cheap hotel as the door needs to be completely replaced. Not a simple broken into, they distroyed the door.

- There was no agreement - written or verbal in the prescence of a witness that OP would pay towards the cost of the stay. Absolutely Correct.
- OP stayed at this woman's home for 1 week and at least did some basic household chores. Not Basic chores. Cooked, cleaned, cleaned 24 hours after her super messy dog, washed and folder piles of her clothes, etc.
- OP asked this woman to do some laundry ( or asked if OP could use the washing machine to do some laundry? ) and was ready to provide own washing powder etc - sorry I was not clear on this one
I asked her to wash my clothers, asked her permission to. I was already washing her clothes and when it came my turn she said no.
- OP is now at his/her own flat
I am on a BB. The door will be replaced only at the end of January according to the Landlord. I am also looking for a place to move into. Dont want to be in this apartment anymore.

- acquaintance is now demanding dosh for the stay and some alleged missing items

Exactly. She is trying to get money out of me.
I have heard that she does to her EX, she used to do that to any single nanny she had.
They would take care of her daughter and when she would have to pay them, she would accuse them of stealing her things and would tell them to leave the house like human garbage. Every 15 days was someone coming from Portugal or Syria or any poor country and she would do that.
Somone that does not want to get involved but knows her history told me yesterday night over a call.

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They would take care of her daughter and when she would have to pay them, she would accuse them of stealing her things and would tell them to leave the house like human garbage. Every 15 days was someone coming from Portugal or Syria or any poor country and she would do that.
Somone that does not want to get involved but knows her history told me yesterday night over a call.



Perhaps someone SHOULD expose her....

Sounds like an OPPORTUNIST....:-((

Set a trap???

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This is exactly what I have done.
I have asked her to wash my clothes, meaning that I bought the detergent and would actually do the job myself.
I was washing HER clothes, ironing them, folding them and putting them in the closet.
And she had a plie, huge pile of clothes. 4 loundry cicles.
When it came my time and I asked, because I am unable to do anything in someone's house without asking, she said NO.

I was also cleaning the pee and poo of her bad behavior dog, that does it in the entire house.

Every single night she would disconnect the lights of the room I was and also the Internet Connnection. And I never complained ...
Is she single?
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Re: Colleague trying to get money

As I said in the PM, you could try and record her saying something incriminating. Make sure you're recording, confront her as she's explicitly said she will lie and say you stole stuff from her, and make sure you have a recording of her saying something to that effect.
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She is separated.

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As I said in the PM, you could try and record her saying something incriminating. Make sure you're recording, confront her as she's explicitly said she will lie and say you stole stuff from her, and make sure you have a recording of her saying something to that effect.
If she calls or write, I will do so.
But I am almost sure she won't.
Probably she will just send the bill to my house.

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If she calls or write, I will do so.
But I am almost sure she won't.
Probably she will just send the bill to my house.
Put it straight in bin or post it back if she has a return address on it and marked 'unknown'
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