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We have those pretty much every day. :eek
I gather that south of the Alps you are also blessed with some other things, huh
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Old 02.01.2015, 23:44
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My response would be similar except the front door would close mid sentence
I am so glad I don't have you or Snoopy for upstairs neighbours. You sound like the kind of people who really shouldn't be living with other people if you can't understand that at that sort of time in the morning you might have to make a compromise with noise that you may even consider "everyday noise" (if you apparently can't judge even after someone tells you that it can be heard and wakes people up in other homes).

I wish there were noisy people buildings and considerate people buildings. noisy people tend to be able to put up with other noisy people and considerate people tend t make very little noise so as not to disturb other considerate people. Win win.
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I am waiting for a new thread which will read like this:

"My downstairs neighbours have complained that I get up early for work in the morning, told me to set out my clothes the night before, and have offered to buy me a carpet.

Stupid foreigners."

Wouldn't it be funny if 'upstairs' were EFers as well- lol.

Tom1234- does your toddler live on the floor above (are you Elton?)?

I'd rather live in a hovel in the sticks than have to put up with this nonsense (I do ) - really not cut out for sharing my space, peace, washing machine, etc, etc- and would go bonkers (well even more so )...Space and privacy is our greatest luxury.

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I am not sure if this helps but ... how you tried to buy them a pair of slippers. Under 10 CHF in H&M and a nice message.
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I am so glad I don't have you or Snoopy for upstairs neighbours. You sound like the kind of people who really shouldn't be living with other people if you can't understand that at that sort of time in the morning you might have to make a compromise with noise that you may even consider "everyday noise" (if you apparently can't judge even after someone tells you that it can be heard and wakes people up in other homes).

I wish there were noisy people buildings and considerate people buildings. noisy people tend to be able to put up with other noisy people and considerate people tend t make very little noise so as not to disturb other considerate people. Win win.
I fully agree.

If the neighbour would be more considerate, he would wake up at 5:15 in the morning so that he would have plenty of time to wear his slippers and do all activities as quite as possible, so that you could sleep a bit longer.
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Do people still wear slippers?
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I gather that south of the Alps you are also blessed with some other things, huh
Actually, I was referring to my wife when I mentioned ""Italian-style" discussions"

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Add to that not having to live in an area close to where you work.

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Alternatively the neighbours could quit their jobs, and use their dole money to invest in hob nailed boots and pogo sticks to get around their flat with.

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I fully agree.

If the neighbour would be more considerate, he would wake up at 5:15 in the morning so that he would have plenty of time to wear his slippers and do all activities as quite as possible, so that you could sleep a bit longer.
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Old 03.01.2015, 03:09
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

It's always surprising to read some of the dismissive "get a life" type remarks when someone, obviously quite distressed, posts on EF to ask for help. The OP wasn't being aggressive or unreasonable; just seeking a bit of support from the EF community.

Apartment living is always a lottery. We've been really lucky with our neighbours, and fortunately we're in a newer style apartment that's well soundproofed. But if I was woken at 5:45 every morning by someone clumping around above my head I'd be pretty pissed off.

It seems certain that the people upstairs are unaware of the problem, and if it's explained reasonably I'm sure they'll do something about it. Sounds easy enough e.g. get clothes ready the night before or leave the wardrobe door open -- or just be more careful. A rug or two would probably help too. But they need to learn about the problem before they can do anything. Despite some of the comments here, I must admit this isn't the sort of conversation I relish either. With the language barrier, sounds like a job for the other half. Good luck.
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I am so glad I don't have you or Snoopy for upstairs neighbours. You sound like the kind of people who really shouldn't be living with other people if you can't understand that at that sort of time in the morning you might have to make a compromise with noise that you may even consider "everyday noise" (if you apparently can't judge even after someone tells you that it can be heard and wakes people up in other homes).

I wish there were noisy people buildings and considerate people buildings. noisy people tend to be able to put up with other noisy people and considerate people tend t make very little noise so as not to disturb other considerate people. Win win.
You are welcome, I can offer lots of other advice also so please let me know.
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Old 03.01.2015, 11:45
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It's always surprising to read some of the dismissive "get a life" type remarks when someone, obviously quite distressed, posts on EF to ask for help. The OP wasn't being aggressive or unreasonable; just seeking a bit of support from the EF community.
You are welcome to your opinion, but I totally think that she is being unreasonable and I see no reason to offer her any support whatsoever in this situation. I am not saying that the people who live above should go out of their way to make excessive noise, but nor do I think that they should be made to feel guilty about getting up at a reasonable hour (if you have a one hour commute) to go to work. The fact that the OP is able to sleep in until 7 is irrelevant in this case. Where do you draw the line. And please stop quoting the "quiet time" BS...that is only for excessive noise and not for someone going about their daily business.
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Old 03.01.2015, 11:50
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I am so glad I don't have you or Snoopy for upstairs neighbours. You sound like the kind of people who really shouldn't be living with other people if you can't understand that at that sort of time in the morning you might have to make a compromise with noise that you may even consider "everyday noise" (if you apparently can't judge even after someone tells you that it can be heard and wakes people up in other homes).

I wish there were noisy people buildings and considerate people buildings. noisy people tend to be able to put up with other noisy people and considerate people tend t make very little noise so as not to disturb other considerate people. Win win.
See my reply above to Pachyderm, and I don't think that 0545 is such an ungodly hour to wake up at. If you have the luxury of being able to sleep in until 7, good on you...

I wonder whether Nancy Holten (her name was in the newspaper and is no secret) is on EF and is participating in this thread....she is the Dutch woman in Gipf-Oberfrick who is taking on the town to get the church bells silenced and the cow bells silenced. She also apparently has the luxury of sleeping in until 7.
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Old 03.01.2015, 12:03
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

Well, this morning (a Saturday), my neighbor woke up -- and woke me up -- at 5:20 instead of the usual 5:45.

Thank god for ear plugs! As soon as I woke up and heard them upstairs, I popped a pair in and this time I was, thankfully, able to fall right back asleep.

Unlike yesterday and the days before, I actually feel "normal" today (so far)... no grogginess, no constant headache. Yay! It's nice to feel like I have patience for my 3-year old again. ()

But it looks like I'm resigned to having to do this six days per week for at least the next few years, since both we and the neighbors only just recently moved into our flats. The worst part is that they probably have no idea. I do find it difficult to approach them since they are, in fact, not causing excessive noise. I almost wish they were so that I'd feel more justified to approach them about it!
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No update........Has someone slept in today?
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Old 03.01.2015, 12:06
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See my reply above to Pachyderm, and I don't think that 0545 is such an ungodly hour to wake up at. If you have the luxury of being able to sleep in until 7, good on you...

I wonder whether Nancy Holten (her name was in the newspaper and is no secret) is on EF and is participating in this thread....she is the Dutch woman in Gipf-Oberfrick who is taking on the town to get the church bells silenced and the cow bells silenced. She also apparently has the luxury of sleeping in until 7.
Sleeping until 7:00 isn't considered a "luxury" in many parts of the world. It's a very normal standard waking time in the US, where most people begin work at 9:00 am.

It's all relative. I'm not sure what time you usually get up, but (assuming it's around 5:30), someone who usually gets up at 4:00 am could also be so delusional as to accuse you of having the "luxury" of being able to sleep until 5:30.

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No update........Has someone slept in today?
Ha ha... yes! (See a few posts above this one). Must have been a cross-post.

Hope everyone else here was able to sleep well, too...

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Sleeping until 7:00 isn't considered a "luxury" in many parts of the world. It's a very normal standard waking time in the US, where most people begin work at 9:00 am.
We are not in "many parts of the world". Get it?
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You are welcome to your opinion, but I totally think that she is being unreasonable and I see no reason to offer her any support whatsoever in this situation...
And I think you are being self-centered by forgetting that not everyone is in the same situation as you are and needs to get up at 5:30 am.

If I was being unreasonable, I would be unable to understand the fact that they do need to get up so early and would have gone up there already to speak with them -- neither of which is the case.

Still don't get it?
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The worst part is that they probably have no idea. I do find it difficult to approach them since they are, in fact, not causing excessive noise. I almost wish they were so that I'd feel more justified to approach them about it!
Honestly just have a chat, they won't realise until you do and will probably change to help you.
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