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By the way... if anyone knows of any tricks to sleep more deeply, I'd really appreciate it. That is, anything that doesn't require sleeping pills or other drugs, alcohol, etc. I hate being groggy in the morning and don't want to rely on pills to get a decent sleep every night. (As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I already sleep with a white noise machine, but unfortunately that's not enough to drown out the noise from above).
Go for an exhausting run before getting ready for bed - take kid along in a buggy

I don't see it as people "forcing" you, it's just what many think would be best to get the thing sorted as soon as possible. Everything you do on your side might help you not hear them, but it doesn't help them stop what they're doing. Thus your methods of "dealing with the issue from your end" don't seem as effective as going up there and talking to them. Dealing only with the consequences of a problem doesn't solve the problem
It's also possible that people here are recommending going to talk with the neighbors because that's what they'd do if they were in your shoes irrespective of what your situation is.

But in the end it's your choice to take or leave the advice we give.
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

I think you're totaly frightened of them, a bit like a rabbit in headlights at night time.

Go speak to them, what's the worst they can do, slam the door, tell you to f' off ?

Or maybe.............."Oh we are so sorry, we didn't realise......"
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And I think you are being self-centered by forgetting that not everyone is in the same situation as you are and needs to get up at 5:30 am.

If I was being unreasonable, I would be unable to understand the fact that they do need to get up so early and would have gone up there already to speak with them -- neither of which is the case.

Still don't get it?

Maybe its you who is being self centred (working at night and sleeping until 7am on work days). This is Switz and not someplace called home. A lot of people commute by public transport to their jobs and are already on the bus/ tram or train at 7am, to do this they would need to get up early.... long before 7am


As has been suggested many times already, you need to talk to them...maybe the solution is easy if they are aware of your problem.


If that fails at least you tried, then your only other option is to start looking for another place to live that is decently sound proofed.


Looking forward to soon (very soon hopefully) reading about your hopefully successful meeting with the upstairs neighbours
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

Option 1. Speak to the neighbour so they are aware of their noise.
option 2. Look at your house layout and maybe change rooms so you are not underneath the noise... Is your upstairs neighbour's apartment the same layout? ... We have three children and have often lived in apartments and seldom use the 'master' bedroom for our own sleeping zone - we tended instead to use the smallest and quietest room for our own sleeping area - unconventional but logical to us...
Option 3. If you seriously need 7-8 hours sleep uninterrupted at night, look at your overall life structure. When I was in my 20's and early 30's I needed up to 10 hours per night and it was related to having small children, depression, iron deficiency and life stress. Now, as I head towards 40, and with three children from 7-15 years, Plus treatment for iron and vitamin D deficiency, my sleep need has dropped a bit, but we have introduced many other strategies to cope along the way.

And in our case, our youngest always woke at 5-6 AM... And went to bed at 8-9pm. I suspect if you get your little one out of bed earlier in the morning, they will probably go to bed earlier in the evening, but that may not be the solution that you need.

Most parents find that they need childcare in order to get their own work done... It does get much easier as they get older... But having your life success revolve around what your upstairs neighbour does... Is not sustainable...

What time does your partner head to work? Maybe they can do some of the morning responsibilities with your 3yo so that you can get back to sleep after the neighbour is gone and things quieten down? My husband does any wakeups after 5am and prepared breakfast for the youngest as he has a much lower sleep need and likes to wake early. For me, having to get out of bed before 7 really hurts!
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

Hi there,

It's one of those tricky conundrums with no straight answers! As you said yourself (and others pointed out, rather brutally), you don't have a legitimate reason to be upset. If you were blessed with the kind of deep sleep I am, the minor noises from the early bird/s upstairs would be a non-issue. So you need to appeal to the goodness in their hearts. My advice would be to go and talk to them but without any preconceived notions, just play it by ear. Unless you know what kind of people they are (young/old/sense of humor/nationality/culture etc.) you can not decide on a "strategy". So do your homework and by all means talk to them without worrying about ruffling feathers. If they're the kind of people who'd get offended by your request, you wouldn't want more than a nodding acquaintance with them anyway, would you? OTOH, if they're kind and understanding, it might be the start of a beautiful relationship 😄. Don't threaten them with loud sex/yodeling/both just yet...

All the best and Happy 2015.
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Hi there,

It's one of those tricky conundrums with no straight answers!
It's not tricky at all, or least not yet, IT IS A QUESTION OF DIALOGUE !!

We all seem to have forgotton how to do this burried in our various screens/social apps, people are fast losing the skill of face to face communication and this is as good example as any.

If the OP won't speak to her neighbour then she deserves all she gets and she is a fool !
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Thanks. I did just start going to the gym a month ago, and while maybe it has helped me fall asleep more quickly, it hasn't seemed to affect how deeply I sleep. As far back as I can remember, I've been one of those people who wake up "at the drop of a pin." And then if I do wake up, I sometimes have trouble falling back asleep (particularly if the noise is continuing). It's awful. I'd give anything to be a really deep sleeper like my husband is. I've even been to sleep clinics (after suffering a nasty bout of insomnia a few years ago), and they told me that some people are just naturally more light sleepers than others. Also, apparently, we sleep less deeply as we age (), and women tend to sleep less deeply after they have a child (nature's way of of ensuring mothers wake up to feed their crying babies, I guess).

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I think you're totaly frightened of them, a bit like a rabbit in headlights at night time.
If they were doing something out of the ordinary to cause unnecessary noise in the morning, then I think I would feel more justified in approaching them. But since that isn't really the case, the way I see it, I would be kind of asking them a favor to be more mindful of the noise they are making during their get-ready-for-work routine.

Secondly, due to the language barrier, it would have to be my husband who approaches them rather than myself. And believe me, he has the communication skills of a potato.

Thirdly, this would really be the first time I ever had an actual conversation with these new neighbors, and yes, I would feel uncomfortable if the topic of that conversation revolved around the fact they wake me up almost every morning.

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Maybe its you who is being self centred (working at night and sleeping until 7am on work days). This is Switz and not someplace called home. A lot of people commute by public transport to their jobs and are already on the bus/ tram or train at 7am, to do this they would need to get up early.... long before 7am
Yeah, I realize this isn't "home" and in fact, my employer is Swiss. I guess I assumed that the "no excessive noise before 7:00 am" rule was in place because some people are capable of realizing that not EVERYONE wants to get up at 5:45 in the morning and should be allowed to sleep as late as 7:00 am if they want to.

Otherwise, why wouldn't that rule be "no excessive noise before 5:45 am?"


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...Option 3. If you seriously need 7-8 hours sleep uninterrupted at night, look at your overall life structure. When I was in my 20's and early 30's I needed up to 10 hours per night and it was related to having small children, depression, iron deficiency and life stress. Now, as I head towards 40, and with three children from 7-15 years, Plus treatment for iron and vitamin D deficiency, my sleep need has dropped a bit, but we have introduced many other strategies to cope along the way.
Thanks for your suggestions. I truly would give both kidneys to be one of those people who are able to function well on only 6 hours of sleep. But I'm not. And, in fact, if you do a bit of online research, you'll find that the amount of sleep needed by adults can vary anywhere from 6 to 9 hours per night. I, apparently, am one of those people who falls in the middle (average) by needing at least 7 1/2 to feel my best. So I am certainly not abnormal for needing that amount to function well during the day.

http://sleepfoundation.org/sleep-pol...do-adults-need

http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders...p-requirements

http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-li...h/faq-20057898

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Hi there,

It's one of those tricky conundrums with no straight answers! As you said yourself (and others pointed out, rather brutally), you don't have a legitimate reason to be upset. If you were blessed with the kind of deep sleep I am, the minor noises from the early bird/s upstairs would be a non-issue. So you need to appeal to the goodness in their hearts. My advice would be to go and talk to them but without any preconceived notions, just play it by ear. Unless you know what kind of people they are (young/old/sense of humor/nationality/culture etc.) you can not decide on a "strategy". So do your homework and by all means talk to them without worrying about ruffling feathers. If they're the kind of people who'd get offended by your request, you wouldn't want more than a nodding acquaintance with them anyway, would you? OTOH, if they're kind and understanding, it might be the start of a beautiful relationship ��. Don't threaten them with loud sex/yodeling/both just yet...

All the best and Happy 2015.
Thank you so much for your thoughtful post. I really appreciate that you were able to give some insight and opinion without resorting to trying to accuse me of being selfish, not having a life (), etc.

I guess it's just a bit of an awkward and unfortunate situation. I try to be one of those people who take their time and really consider things before (in this case) approaching strangers and asking them to accommodate my needs. So I'm going to give it at least a few more nights and, again, see what changes I can make on my end before approaching them about it.

Thanks also to the other people on here who were able to give their opinions and advice without feeling the need to also turn it into an attack on my character or lifestyle (or job) in general.
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Thanks. I did just start going to the gym a month ago, and while maybe it has helped me fall asleep more quickly, it hasn't seemed to affect how deeply I sleep. As far back as I can remember, I've been one of those people who wake up "at the drop of a pin." And then if I do wake up, I sometimes have trouble falling back asleep (particularly if the noise is continuing). It's awful. I'd give anything to be a really deep sleeper like my husband is. I've even been to sleep clinics (after suffering a nasty bout of insomnia a few years ago), and they told me that some people are just naturally more light sleepers than others. Also, apparently, we sleep less deeply as we age (), and women tend to sleep less deeply after they have a child (nature's way of of ensuring mothers wake up to feed their crying babies, I guess).



If they were doing something out of the ordinary to cause unnecessary noise in the morning, then I think I would feel more justified in approaching them. But since that isn't really the case, the way I see it, I would be kind of asking them a favor to be more mindful of the noise they are making during their get-ready-for-work routine.

Secondly, due to the language barrier, it would have to be my husband who approaches them rather than myself. And believe me, he has the communication skills of a potato.

Thirdly, this would really be the first time I ever had an actual conversation with these new neighbors, and yes, I would feel uncomfortable if the topic of that conversation revolved around the fact they wake me up almost every morning.



Yeah, I realize this isn't "home" and in fact, my employer is Swiss. I guess I assumed that the "no excessive noise before 7:00 am" rule was in place because some people are capable of realizing that not EVERYONE wants to get up at 5:45 in the morning and should be allowed to sleep as late as 7:00 am if they want to.

Otherwise, why wouldn't that rule be "no excessive noise before 5:45 am?"




Thanks for your suggestions. I truly would give both kidneys to be one of those people who are able to function well on only 6 hours of sleep. But I'm not. And, in fact, if you do a bit of online research, you'll find that the amount of sleep needed by adults can vary anywhere from 6 to 9 hours per night. I, apparently, am one of those people who falls in the middle (average) by needing at least 7 1/2 to feel my best. So I am certainly not abnormal for needing that amount to function well during the day.

http://sleepfoundation.org/sleep-pol...do-adults-need

http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders...p-requirements

http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-li...h/faq-20057898



Thank you so much for your thoughtful post. I really appreciate that you were able to give some insight and opinion without resorting to trying to accuse me of being selfish, not having a life (), etc.

I guess it's just a bit of an awkward and unfortunate situation. I try to be one of those people who take their time and really consider things before (in this case) approaching strangers and asking them to accommodate my needs. So I'm going to give it at least a few more nights and, again, see what changes I can make on my end before approaching them about it.

Thanks also to the other people on here who were able to give their opinions and advice without feeling the need to also turn it into an attack on my character or lifestyle (or job) in general.

Go talk to them in your fashion, just by making an effort to speak the language or some semblance breaks more ice than a lot of other things !

If you want to comunicate, believe me, you will do, may take a bit longer but where there's a will, there's a way ! Maybe they speak English, it's not so uncommon here, most people have been to school here !

It's not a favour your asking it's a request they make less noise, i am sure they will be horrified they are disturbing you as much as you are horified about speaking with them.

Communal living entails concessions by all who participate....

Now quit dicking around, bite the bullet, go talk to them and don't come back drunk bcause they were nice people, appologised for the noise and opened a bottle of wine for you to drink with them !

If they bite your head off, promise, i'll pay the medical bills.
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The worst part is that they probably have no idea. I do find it difficult to approach them since they are, in fact, not causing excessive noise.
Unless you tell them nothing will change. Since (presumably) you're not going to accuse them of anything I fail to see why you shouldn't approach them. And some gift, wine or whatever, never hurts.

However, I wouldn't approach them in the morning as rather few people have both time for and enjoy a seemingly idle chat at that time of day.
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most people in CH start work between 7am and 8am - at least in my workplace they do.

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Yes, what's that all about? Why do the Swiss insist on starting work so incomprehensibly early? They can't all be insomniacs or shift workers - most probably work in an office. Are long hours seen as an indication of one's ability to climb the greasy pole and/or impress the boss. It seems very unhealthy to me.

Back on topic, I think any sort of noise before 8am at weekends is totally unacceptable. Apartment living can be very challenging at the best of times and it behoves all of us to be as considerate to our neighbours as possible.
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

I suspect that the fact so many of them have to get up so early is the main reason why so few of them smile and also accounts for their tendency to stare off into blank space at random intervals.

They look like they're staring AT you... but they're really not.

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I suspect that the fact so many of them have to get up so early is the main reason why so few of them smile and also accounts for their tendency to stare off into blank space at random intervals.

They look like they're staring AT you... but they're really not.

A nation of zombies.... I knew it!!!!!
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Yes, what's that all about? Why do the Swiss insist on starting work so incomprehensibly early? They can't all be insomniacs or shift workers - most probably work in an office. Are long hours seen as an indication of one's ability to climb the greasy pole and/or impress the boss. It seems very unhealthy to me.

Back on topic, I think any sort of noise before 8am at weekends is totally unacceptable. Apartment living can be very challenging at the best of times and it behoves all of us to be as considerate to our neighbours as possible.
Switzerland

Start early, finish early to allow you to spend as much time with your family as possible?
Get up early at the weekends to get outdoors and again spend as much time as possible with your family in a healthy outdoor environment.


USA/UK

Stay in bed as long as possible, get up at the last minute and work late.
At the weekend stay in bed as long as possible, simply because its the weekend.



Honestly the thread has been going on long enough, if you're that annoyed go see them and be polite to them, it might just work.

If you don't want to go see them, stop whining.
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Switzerland

Start early, finish early to allow you to spend as much time with your family as possible?
Get up early at the weekends to get outdoors and again spend as much time as possible with your family in a healthy outdoor environment.


USA/UK

Stay in bed as long as possible, get up at the last minute and work late.
At the weekend stay in bed as long as possible, simply because its the weekend.



Honestly the thread has been going on long enough, if you're that annoyed go see them and be polite to them, it might just work.

If you don't want to go see them, stop whining.
No, I think the reason the Swiss get up so early on the weekends is so they can try to beat everyone else to Migros or Coop.

Erm... I havent' been whining. This thread would have died long ago if it wasn't for me responding to other people's posts here. I had asked for opinions and tried to take the time to respond to them when I received them.

No one's forced you to read this thread.

Oh, and by the way... I do have many Swiss friends (including my best friend here) who do sleep in on the weekends and have expressed to me how much they dislike having to get up so early during the work week. In fact, every Swiss mother and father I know has confided in me that they wish they had more "me" time -- away from their kids.
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Switzerland

Start early, finish early to allow you to spend as much time with your family as possible?
Get up early at the weekends to get outdoors and again spend as much time as possible with your family in a healthy outdoor environment.


USA/UK

Stay in bed as long as possible, get up at the last minute and work late.
At the weekend stay in bed as long as possible, simply because its the weekend.



Honestly the thread has been going on long enough, if you're that annoyed go see them and be polite to them, it might just work.

If you don't want to go see them, stop whining.
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I suspect that the fact so many of them have to get up so early is the main reason why so few of them smile and also accounts for their tendency to stare off into blank space at random intervals.

They look like they're staring AT you... but they're really not.

Ever heard of "Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise"?

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Just makes me feel groggy!
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Ever heard of "Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise"?

Not everyone is able to go to bed early.

I think what is most important is not what time you go to bed or wake up but how many hours of sleep you have received.
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Someone please call a doctor.
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

Thankfully, my neighbor didn't get up until 7:00 this morning (a Sunday), which meant that I, too, was able to sleep until 7:00.

So, I'm feeling a bit normal and refreshed this morning, which means that I will hopefully be able to really enjoy the day ahead (looks like it might be a sunny one!).

I'm going to do my best to avoid this thread for the rest of the day today, though, since it managed to put me in a foul mood yesterday.

To anyone trying to poke fun at me here... I'd love to see how you would feel if you had to repeatedly deal with having much less sleep than you usually do. It's easy to cast stones when it's something you haven't directly experienced yourself. And perhaps if you educated yourself a bit on the effects of sleep deprivation, then you'd be a bit more sympathetic.

Okay, I'm going to take my little boy out to play now. I hope everyone else here was able to have a good night's sleep.
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