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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

Pancaked, my genuine advice: don't take the internet so seriously. If a thread "puts you in a foul mood", to the point where you (somewhat oddly imo) say "my 3 year old boy will be the one to suffer" then you are not using the forum as intended. Chill out a little and get a thicker skin, or just stop replying to all the people trying to wind you up.
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

I have the problem of noise in the morning too today, kids and wife!

We have a new puppy which is being house trained - out before 7am, fed, out again just over an hour later etc.. I've been doing this daily for last two weeks. This morning wife got up in a bad mood (always the case before 11.59am), stamped downstairs, banged all of the doors 6 times, left the lights on, woke up the children, didn't bother with the second walk after food meaning the dog shat in the kitchen and then howled to tell us, then banged all the doors again, swore at the dog, cleaned the mess, woke the children again. And went back to bed leaving me with said children and dog. Now the children are making lots of noise in the playroom. What can I do?

Should I write a letter? To the dog for needing to toilet? To the children for waking up? To the wife cos she wanted the dog? Or should I just get up every morning and let everybody else sleep?
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

John the solution is obvious, get a bigger apartment and find a live-in mistress.
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Pancaked, my genuine advice: don't take the internet so seriously. If a thread "puts you in a foul mood", to the point where you (somewhat oddly imo) say "my 3 year old boy will be the one to suffer" then you are not using the forum as intended. Chill out a little and get a thicker skin, or just stop replying to all the people trying to wind you up.
I'm sure the root of the problem is the sleep deprivation. As I wrote earlier, I do get hypersensitive (and have much less patience) when I'm suffering recurring sleep deprivation. My husband (and most people I know) are the same way. Hence, the importance of getting good sleep.

To be honest, though, I really don't think there is that much difference between having an argument or debate online versus in-person. Either way would naturally have some degree of affect on one's emotions -- particularly when it involves being personally attacked.

Anyways...

Okay, I'm really going to try to stay away from this thread today...

If I post here again, someone please virtually spank me!
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

FFS you and your husband need to grow a pair and a spine and politely mention your problem to the people upstairs. Making suggestions of preparation the night before may be met with resistance and bad words though.

Get it sorted, it's not difficult.
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To be honest, though, I really don't think there is that much difference between having an argument or debate online versus in-person. Either way would naturally have some degree of affect on one's emotions -- particularly when it involves being personally attacked.
Of course there is a massive difference... the internet is basically full of random spods (including me) who all have their own problems and weird and (less than) wonderful habits, and whose subjective opinion on your personal life should mean absolutely less than nothing in the grand scheme of things. People also say harsh things they likely wouldn't say in real life (or would at least phrase it differently). That's the interwebs, that's the way it's always been, and you shouldn't take any of it personally or to heart.

If you can't make that separation between the e-world and real life then maybe internet forums aren't the best place for you.
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

honestly you need to get over yourself. Everyone who has kids knows what it's like to get less sleep than they need. Most people who share walls have been woken up for whatever reason. Also, most people with a 3 year old make more noise than those without.

We are lucky with an elderly couple who are grandparents below us who love the kids and wake up early anyway, and a neighbor across from us who gets up to leave for work at around 4:30 every day. I am usually up with the 2 year old from 4-5 so it doesn't matter.

We have a 4.5 year old, 3.5 year old, and a 2 year old. I haven't slept more than 5 hours in a single night for 4.5 years and that 5 hours is always interrupted by 1 of the 3 either having to pee, having a dream, or just needing a drink. If you have a 3 year old who sleeps from 9:30PM to 7AM straight who the hell are you to bitch about anything? You seriously have no idea what it's like to be sleep deprived and some of us mocking you are doing so with the experience of reality behind us. It's no longer called sleep deprivation over here, it's just life with 3 kids, deal with it and if you can't than stop at 1 kid and move

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To anyone trying to poke fun at me here... I'd love to see how you would feel if you had to repeatedly deal with having much less sleep than you usually do. It's easy to cast stones when it's something you haven't directly experienced yourself. And perhaps if you educated yourself a bit on the effects of sleep deprivation, then you'd be a bit more sympathetic.
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

Has this friendly chat not happened yet?! It's hardly a confrontation......

I'm sure their reaction will be to be mortified and want to help, that's what the majority of people would feel.

Who cares if it's within the bounds of what could be considered tolerable? I'd bring one of them down while the other goes through the morning routine and let them be the judge. It's little hardship to have clothes ready in another room.....that's exactly what I do when I'm up early.
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

Pancakes, you really disppoint me, what good will staying away do, instead of being such an idiot, go speak with them
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

I can't stand noise. After living in my student days with my upstairs neighbour arriving home at 2-3am every night and using the bathroom in heels and our short-term accomodation here with an upstairs chair mover (all day, everyday accross tiles) I chose a top floor apartment.

Now we pay a premium to live in a quiet, car free neighbourhood and took a house so there is no one above or below us.
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

Using the bathroom in heels? Where can one purchase stiletto slippers?

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I can't stand noise. After living in my student days with my upstairs neighbour arriving home at 2-3am every night and using the bathroom in heels and our short-term accomodation here with an upstairs chair mover (all day, everyday accross tiles) I chose a top floor apartment.

Now we pay a premium to live in a quiet, car free neighbourhood and took a house so there is no one above or below us.
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Old 04.01.2015, 18:57
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Re: How to approach new neighbors about early morning noise?

You know, this thread has done nothing more but make me feel even more confused about the best way to handle this "situation," because it seems that half the people here are telling me that I'd have no right to approach the neighbors (one even implied that they would hit me if it was them), while the other half is seemingly trying to force me to approach them and accusing me of being too afraid to.

For this reason, I'm just going to continue to go with my gut instinct on this.

Thanks again to those of you here who were able to give some input without resorting to trying to attack me personally or the time that I get up in the morning. I have enough Swiss friends to know that 7:00 am is not considered a very late waking time here in CH, particularly given that my job requires me to work until 10:00 pm.

I'd appreciate it if a mod could close this thread.
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