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4CHF at the Basel Zoo. small size, regular coffee... nothing special but not an every day expense, I usually make a triple espresso at home and bring it in my thermos

we usually go through about 3.5-4kg of Chicco d'Oro/month. we have 3 young kids

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I have paid CHF 3.70 a cup of coffee yesterday at Brittania Pub, in front of Geneva railway station. Expensive, isn't it ?
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2.80 CHF at my Patisserie in Geneva (I believe Geneva has the cheapest coffee in Switzerland).
I still find Switzerland has decent coffee compared with most places in the world. Italy clearly wins and in last place probably the USA, which must have the vilest product (I usually describe it as boiled cow-piss).
I heard Melbourne is one of top places for their coffee given their competitive coffee/cafe market.




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I don't know what you are all complaining about.


The coffee in the mountains around Wengen is CHF4+, and it's usually too cold.


Now that's expensive!
But you got the stunning view
I remember once sitting in a cafe in Chamonix and asked the waitress whether they have wifi, she proudly answered, "I'm sorry, we don't have it here, but we have Mont Blanc"
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in last place probably the USA(I usually describe it as boiled cow-piss).
Although it depends where you are in the USA. Seattle has local roasters and coffee shops (other than Starbucks) on every corner where you can get amazing brew. I couldnt get over the sticker shock here and had to adjust to pour over and the Bialetti stovetop maker.
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Although it depends where you are in the USA. Seattle has local roasters and coffee shops (other than Starbucks) on every corner where you can get amazing brew. I couldnt get over the sticker shock here and had to adjust to pour over and the Bialetti stovetop maker moka.
FTFY.

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Re: How much does your coffee habit cost you?

I lived in Italy for ten years and a coffee at my local bar cost one euro and that included a croissant! I go back regularly and the prices haven't changed. There'd be a riot if they did!

Maybe a quick trip across the border for a cheap cup of the best coffee in the world is warranted?
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Re: How much does your coffee habit cost you?

As said before, even in Italy the prices change a lot. If you want to sit down rather than stand, in a town square, especially in tourist areas- the price can be much higher. Café Florian in Venice is 9Euros for black coffee. Medium americano in UK is £2.25- which makes Swiss coffee where I live (at 3CHF10) quite cheap and much tastier!

As Wooli says, what constitutes good coffee is very subjective. I do find most French coffee dreadful, and Italian coffee can be so bitter is is undrinkable. Most coffee in Neuchâtel is from La Semeuse, a local coffee roaster- and I love it- probably because this is what I am used to.
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Cafe Florian is probably the most expensive Cafe in the world!

Plus Venice operates a triple pricing policy. One price for tourist, one price for Italian visitors and one price for Venetians.

You would not normally pay more than 1.50 Euros for an Espresso (cafe normale,) there.
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I heard Melbourne is one of top places for their coffee given their competitive coffee/cafe market.
Yep.. Along with most places in NZ.

Third wave coffee has not hit Italy like it has hit a lot of much younger coffee markets like Australia, NZ, UK, Berlin, parts of the US. Don't expect to order a flat white, or a 3/4 café latte. Even the way Italians serve a Café Latte (Latte Macchiato) is vastly different to what you will get outside of Italy. Its 95% milk with a slight taste of coffee!

Just take a look at the current World Barista rankings, and you don't see many Italians in the list. I am not saying the coffee in Italy is bad, I am just pointing out its a completely different coffee scene - kind of stuck in the past because that's what the Italians want to drink I guess.

http://www.worldbaristachampionship....C-RANKINGS.pdf
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As said before, even in Italy the prices change a lot. If you want to sit down rather than stand, in a town square, especially in tourist areas- the price can be much higher. Café Florian in Venice is 9Euros for black coffee. Medium americano in UK is £2.25- which makes Swiss coffee where I live (at 3CHF10) quite cheap and much tastier!

As Wooli says, what constitutes good coffee is very subjective. I do find most French coffee dreadful, and Italian coffee can be so bitter is is undrinkable. Most coffee in Neuchâtel is from La Semeuse, a local coffee roaster- and I love it- probably because this is what I am used to.
I don't drink much coffee but I like the coffee served in Neuchatel whatever it is.
At 3.20 chf in most places I don't think it's bad value and infinitely better than the bucket sized cups of what passes for coffee they sell in the UK.

I don't really like the coffee served in France at all, it seems way too bitter and acidic to me and I have resorted to putting sugar in it in the past just to make it drinkable. I don't usually order coffee in a France anymore. I wasn't awfully impressed by the coffee in Germany either but we had nice coffee in Belgium.
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Although it depends where you are in the USA. Seattle has local roasters and coffee shops (other than Starbucks) on every corner where you can get amazing brew. I couldnt get over the sticker shock here and had to adjust to pour over and the Bialetti stovetop maker.
There are actually some "roasters" in Zürich, e.g. Schwarzenbach in Niederdorf, Café Noir at Neugasse, radicalbeans or Stoll. There should be some more...

To my knowledge "pour over" coffee is rarely done here.
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Third wave coffee has not hit Italy like it has hit a lot of much younger coffee markets like Australia, NZ, UK, Berlin, parts of the US.
And thankfully so!

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I lived in Italy for ten years and a coffee at my local bar cost one euro and that included a croissant! I go back regularly and the prices haven't changed. There'd be a riot if they did!

Maybe a quick trip across the border for a cheap cup of the best coffee in the world is warranted?

A trip from here to Chiasso/Como is NOT a quick trip but clearly an excursion
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Cafe Florian is probably the most expensive Cafe in the world!

Plus Venice operates a triple pricing policy. One price for tourist, one price for Italian visitors and one price for Venetians.

You would not normally pay more than 1.50 Euros for an Espresso (cafe normale,) there.


Not just Venezia but most of Italy. I remember Pietrasanta-Viareggio. Mum and me paid 200 Lire, my brother 400 Lire and a local we knew just 100 Lire.
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As said before, even in Italy the prices change a lot. If you want to sit down rather than stand, in a town square, especially in tourist areas- the price can be much higher. Café Florian in Venice is 9Euros for black coffee. Medium americano in UK is £2.25- which makes Swiss coffee where I live (at 3CHF10) quite cheap and much tastier!

As Wooli says, what constitutes good coffee is very subjective. I do find most French coffee dreadful, and Italian coffee can be so bitter is is undrinkable. Most coffee in Neuchâtel is from La Semeuse, a local coffee roaster- and I love it- probably because this is what I am used to.


LA SEMEUSE often participates in fairs in Zürich with quite some success. Yes, they ARE good. The "bitterness" of Italian coffee is what I like. It makes what I regard as real coffee.
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"I made the mistake of having a coffee at the Kempinski Hotel in Geneva: 9CHF. I almost cried. But, to be fair, it did come with a tiny plate of minuscule cookies probably hand made by cherubs with gold flour and angel tears. Plus I had a view of some very interesting people....."
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"I made the mistake of having a coffee at the Kempinski Hotel in Geneva: 9CHF. I almost cried. But, to be fair, it did come with a tiny plate of minuscule cookies probably hand made by cherubs with gold flour and angel tears. Plus I had a view of some very interesting people....."
A bargain then.
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I agree it's expensive for a coffee but for Zurich prices it is cheap!
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To my knowledge "pour over" coffee is rarely done here.
Come to Wald, ZH - I do it all the time, particularly when I can't be bothered to descale the espresso machine first. Filter, good beans and simple cone filter, favourite mug, coffee The water in the area is VERY hard just hope the kalk is sticking to my ageing female bones the way it does to the kettle and other surfaces coming into contact with water.
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Although it depends where you are in the USA. Seattle has local roasters and coffee shops (other than Starbucks) on every corner where you can get amazing brew. I couldnt get over the sticker shock here and had to adjust to pour over and the Bialetti stovetop maker.

Right you are. Amazing is the differences. While coffee in the State of Louisiana is superb in many places, it in most places in Texas is horrible
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