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Old 06.09.2015, 21:15
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Re: Giving up caffeine.

No problem with you asking,


My teeth are quite healthy, they have never been bright white since I was a small child as a result of heavy anti biotic meds during tick bite fever, but the coffee doesn't cause any problems.
Good toothpaste and regular brushing take care of that.


If I don't have coffee shortly before bed time, I struggle to sleep.


Cuppa- brusha-bedda.
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Caffeine Acts as a Stimulant

Caffeine is a toxic stimulant. This is not natural for the body. It activates the “fight or flight” response.
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Just how widespread is coffee drinking? The average American drinks over twenty-six gallons of coffee per year, but perhaps more germane to the discussion is caffeine itself. Coffee has over three hundred chemicals; caffeine is only one of them.
please post the link to the "article" instead of making it look your own post
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/H-dece...-caffeine-risk

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Nope - not my fault...it's the way we are made...


Coffee is acidic and gets absorbed directly into the bloodstream which causes immediate acidification of the blood. The blood must maintain a pH of 7.365...or we DIE. So, the body goes into overdrive to maintain homeostasis in the blood and pushes the acid into our tissues. We refer to the Digestive System as the bodies alkaline buffering system, because it does not digest food with acid, it buffers the acid in our food by creating alkaline liquids so it can safely pass through our bodies for elimination. The blood requires the pulling of alkaline forming compounds from the muscles, joints, and tissues to maintain homeostasis, essentially robbing them of alkaline minerals such as calcium, potassium, and magnesium.

So? So, if the body is robbing itself of alkaline minerals and water, and salts to maintain that delicate blood pH, there are long-term consequences that will follow. Robbing your muscles of magnesium repeatedly could lead to issues down the line such as fibromyalgia, robbing the joints or bones of calcium could lead to things such as arthritis or osteoporosis, and robbing the tissues of water and salts could lead to issues such as chronic fatigue.

If you wan't your coffee - it's your temple
Don't you think you're overreaching a smidgen? I hardly think a few cups of coffee is going to induce acidosis, or death.
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Don't you think you're overreaching a smidgen? I hardly think a few cups of coffee is going to induce acidosis, or death.
he doesn't think but copy from http://www.alabasterliving.com/blog/archives/07-2014
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Old 06.09.2015, 21:56
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Re: Giving up caffeine.

Some people read one article and believe everything it says, other people research multiple accounts before forming a belief and then you get those who choose to live life and do what works for them.


Each to their own I suppose.


At the end of the day, if you can't handle coffee/caffeine don't drink it. If it doesn't affect you, drink all you want, but don't just go around lecturing people on what you think or believe if it is not complete fact.
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Re: Giving up caffeine.

I tried cutting out caffeine for months but found no noticeable difference whatsoever .. In my case i was just sometimes feeling tense, sometimes sore head, sometimes a little shaky, sometimes really tired. Had every checkup under the sun and nothing found so I just tried a few things, giving up caffeine did nothing for me.

I'm back to "normal" levels of 3-4 coffees a day roughly and what seems to have worked for me is a big increase in exercise. From almost nothing I started cycling back in April and have increased gradually to now doing up to 150km per week of 'proper' road cycling and still building it. Seems to have pretty much/almost stopped the strange symptoms.
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I am over 40, drink 4 to 5 litres of coffee a day and have done for many years now, eat only once a day and I don't drink plain water (water makes rust ;-) ).
Every year I undergo a medical examination for work purposes and have absolutely no problems.
Yeah yeah, that's exactly what most people like to believe: Sh!t happens only to others and such.

And then, at the age of 98 or so, one evening you'll go to bed in good health and in the morning, you'll wake up and realize you're dead.

That's exactly what happened to my Grandma.

You can't say you haven't been warned.
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Old 07.09.2015, 01:45
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And then, at the age of 98 or so, one evening you'll go to bed in good health and in the morning, you'll wake up and realize you're dead.

You can't say you haven't been warned.

If I make it to 98 then I think I had a darn good innings.


I accept that I have been warned by many and will be warned by many more to come, but this is just the way I am and at least I am enjoying life. It beats dying miserable and wondering what else there was to life other than doing what is the "right thing".


Besides, my work is likely to beat coffee in being my demise.
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I am over 40, drink 4 to 5 litres of coffee a day and have done for many years now, eat only once a day and I don't drink plain water (water makes rust ;-) ).
Every year I undergo a medical examination for work purposes and have absolutely no problems.


Point being, people are different and react differently to various "substances"
It also depends on if and how much sugar or aspartame type sweeteners you are using in your coffee.
My father did the same...medical tests and he still believes people are different...4 years after being burnt, poisoned and cut...bowel cancer...to this day he is dealing with "it" and now my mother is having some symptoms the doctors give names and will "treat" just to get the machine to run. I guess, that is nature and I am shore, you and everybody finds their own "truth".
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Hi Nil,

Actually coffeine is known to be good against headache. But you should not have more than 2-3 cups a day. It takes up to 6 to 10 hours to get rid of from the system. So better not drink it after 6 at the latest in the evening.
Agree on that. The best pain medication I have found so far is a combo of Ibuprofene (200-400 mg depending on the type of pain) and 1 cup of strong coffee. If pain doesn't go away with that, it's a sign that something is really wrong and I should consult a doctor.

That said, I almost never drink coffee after 9 AM. Before that, I down between 0 and 1 litre of black coffee, depending on the availability of decent brew. The days I don't have any I don't experience any problems except that I'm unsocial a bit longer. I tend to avoid other human beings before the coffee and newspapers round is finished.

I believe that everything is ok in moderation, and some will even get away with immoderation consumption. But you'll never know before your last day on earth whether you belong to the "can drink, smoke and never cared about training" group or not. My mother-in-law smokes like a chimney, eats whatever she wants, could probably get coffee intravenously and drinks wine; she just turned 79 and is perfectly healthy. Her teetotaller, non-smoker, physically active and borderline diet-freak husband however, died 3 years ago.
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I believe that everything is ok in moderation, and some will even get away with immoderation consumption. But you'll never know before your last day on earth whether you belong to the "can drink, smoke and never cared about training" group or not. My mother-in-law smokes like a chimney, eats whatever she wants, could probably get coffee intravenously and drinks wine; she just turned 79 and is perfectly healthy. Her teetotaller, non-smoker, physically active and borderline diet-freak husband however, died 3 years ago.
A bit of a meaningless statement if he got hit by a car or something like that.

Sorry to sound crass but there you go.
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A bit of a meaningless statement if he got hit by a car or something like that.

Sorry to sound crass but there you go.
Fair enough, you're absolutely right. Stomach cancer though, together with slow responding GP. But in his family people don't tend to see their 80th birthday, even though they live healthily to the point of being boring.

On the completely opposite side of the range you have my grandma, 9 kids, chain smoking until her early 80s (not the early 80s!), eating whatever she wants, drinking and enjoying life however hard it may be. She's 97 and likely to bury us all. She's just built to last, physically and mentally.

The way I see it, longevity is probably something like 70% genes, 20% sheer luck (like not getting run over by a car) and 10% prevention/lifestyle. I do my best to control the 10% that's on me and reduce the risk of the 20% happening, but at the end of the day I'll day sooner or later, as everyone else I know.

Like I told my 6-year old last time he had a "freak out over life and death" episode, if we all lived forever we'd run out of space for everyone and life would be pretty boring after a while.
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Re: Giving up caffeine.

But why? Coffee is good for the heart and good for the health of my neighbors or anyone else who happens to cross my path (pre coffee).
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Re: Giving up caffeine.

As a general comment on the topic, yes there are those that fall to the ills of caffeine and there are those who don't.
We will all pass along one day from whatever cause.....agreed


But before blaming any one single item for causing health issues in an individual, lets look at their entire life and family history as well as their complete diet. Coffee causes cancer?? but so do a lot of other things, so which one was the real cause in the end??


EAT, DRINK AND BE MERRY


PS: a good dry red goes well between cups of coffee
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Re: Giving up caffeine.

Just for those that like to quote articles about coffee and caffeine, try reading this one:


http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/nutrition/18-reasons-why-coffee-is-good-for-you/ss-AAefgTJ


And have another cuppa

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Re: Giving up caffeine.

Now THAT was funny!
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Re: Giving up caffeine.

I find it works to cut weekend coffee drinking, and at least it partially resets one's tolerance to caffeine for the start of the following week
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Re: Giving up caffeine.

Coffee has alot of health benefits. Better would be to drink only green tea
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If you did, would you be kind to share your experience? Withdraw? General health? Why you stopped?

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