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Swiss-American Moving to Switzerland for 1st Time

Hello everyone!

I am a dual citizen swiss/american and have been living in the states for the majority of my life (born in Geneva). This spring I will earn my bachelor's degree in geology and was hoping to enter the oil & gas industry, but as the petrol prices have plummeted, getting a job on a rig here will be very tough.

I am considering the possibility going to Switzerland! However, I really have no idea what I could do, or if I could make it. I have some family living there in small villages as dairy farmers. I thought I could maybe find a room-share (somewhere like Lausanne) and get a non-professional job to support myself for the time being. My french is not the greatest though I am working on it. Another idea I had was exploring the option of carrying out the military service commitment to acclimate myself to the country and culture (if I even qualify!).

It's always been a dream of mine to live in Switzerland and as a citizen I believe it is possible! Even if only temporarily... Does anyone have any ideas of how I can make it happen? Or resources to share that could help me figure this out?

Any thoughts or suggestions are very much welcome
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Old 06.01.2015, 22:48
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Hello everyone!

I am a dual citizen swiss/american and have been living in the states for the majority of my life (born in Geneva). This spring I will earn my bachelor's degree in geology and was hoping to enter the oil & gas industry, but as the petrol prices have plummeted, getting a job on a rig here will be very tough.

I am considering the possibility going to Switzerland! However, I really have no idea what I could do, or if I could make it. I have some family living there in small villages as dairy farmers. I thought I could maybe find a room-share (somewhere like Lausanne) and get a non-professional job to support myself for the time being. My french is not the greatest though I am working on it. Another idea I had was exploring the option of carrying out the military service commitment to acclimate myself to the country and culture (if I even qualify!).

It's always been a dream of mine to live in Switzerland and as a citizen I believe it is possible! Even if only temporarily... Does anyone have any ideas of how I can make it happen? Or resources to share that could help me figure this out?

Any thoughts or suggestions are very much welcome

Welcome to this Forum and welcome to Switzerland. BUT do not allow yourself to be overcome by nostalgia. As a citizen of Switzerland you can apply for jobs in Germany, France, Italy also, where people educated in geology might be required. But there also in Switzerland are companies working in geology and such things. Also Swiss Universities (Geneva, Basel, Zürich etc may be interested. While you should not over-estimate your rather theoretical education, you should NOT UNDER-estimate your qualification
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Re: Swiss-American Moving to Switzerland for 1st Time

Since you are a citizen it should definitely be possible, might be a bit of a rough landing financially and careerwise though. The Swiss educational system includes standard vocational options (apprenticeships) for most non-professional jobs; I can imagine trying to land one of these jobs with limited language skills and without having done the apprenticeship might be tricky.

I know that some repatriation assistance exists, but I don't know the details. The best source of current information will probably be your consulate.
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Welcome to this Forum and welcome to Switzerland. BUT do not allow yourself to be overcome by nostalgia. As a citizen of Switzerland you can apply for jobs in Germany, France, Italy also, where people educated in geology might be required. But there also in Switzerland are companies working in geology and such things. Also Swiss Universities (Geneva, Basel, Zürich etc may be interested. While you should not over-estimate your rather theoretical education, you should NOT UNDER-estimate your qualification
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Thanks for your insightful reply! I am planning to visit for a few weeks upon completing my education and I will explore the possibilities of continuing education there (I know it's fairly less expensive than here in US). Would you happen to know any job posting boards I could browse for positions in Switz/EU?

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Since you are a citizen it should definitely be possible, might be a bit of a rough landing financially and careerwise though. The Swiss educational system includes standard vocational options (apprenticeships) for most non-professional jobs; I can imagine trying to land one of these jobs with limited language skills and without having done the apprenticeship might be tricky.

I know that some repatriation assistance exists, but I don't know the details. The best source of current information will probably be your consulate.
Hmmm okay thank you for your reply, getting in touch with the consulate is a great idea! I will investigate
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Re: Swiss-American Moving to Switzerland for 1st Time

Many of the stickies here on the forum will answer your questions. You could also get hold of a copy of "Living and Working in Switzerland" by David Hampshire. It's full of useful info for both before and after you move. You can order it from your local bookshop or via the Internet. This will also help you with some general info:

http://aso.ch/files/webcontent/recht..._with_logo.pdf

You could also look at getting your Masters degree here as many courses are taught in English which may help on the employment side of things.

Be aware that as a American citizen you will have ongoing US tax filing obligations, even though you no longer live in the US. America's system is citizen based so citizens are taxed by the US no matter where they live in the world. Check the IRS website for more on your filing obligations (search Americans Abroad). Also be aware that as an American you may find it difficult to get a bank account here even with Swiss nationality as well. This is due to the US's FATCA law which requires banks to find their American clients and report their account info to the IRS. You will be required to sign a W-9 to open an account and may also need to provide proof of recent US tax compliancy by way of copies of your recent filings. Also you will need to file an FBAR form for your "foreign" bank account/s annually if the aggregate figure is more than $10,000 at any time during the year.
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Since you are a citizen it should definitely be possible, might be a bit of a rough landing financially and careerwise though. The Swiss educational system includes standard vocational options (apprenticeships) for most non-professional jobs; I can imagine trying to land one of these jobs with limited language skills and without having done the apprenticeship might be tricky.

I know that some repatriation assistance exists, but I don't know the details. The best source of current information will probably be your consulate.

an option for him may be TOPO, the LANDESTOPOGRAPHIE where they need well educated scientists


another place is Hallwag Kümmerly and Frey -- originally two companies


Hallwag Kümmerly+Frey AG
Grubenstrasse 109
CH-3322 Schönbühl

Telefon:
+41 31 850 31 10 Bestellungen für Karten und Reiseführer
+41 31 850 31 81 Sonderanfertigungen, Werbegeschenke
+41 31 850 31 98 Wandkarten, aufgezogener Wandschmuck
+41 31 850 31 88 Kalender und Jahresspiegel
+41 31 850 31 31 Administration / Buchhaltung
Fax: +41 31 850 31 00
E-Mail: info@swisstravelcenter.ch
Internet: http://www.swisstravelcenter.ch/


where they possibly also are interested
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...The best source of current information will probably be your consulate.
Another option is to get in touch with your place of origin. It's called Heimatort in German and I think Commune d'origine in French. Let them know you're interested in coming back and see if they can offer any advice or assistance.
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Re: Swiss-American Moving to Switzerland for 1st Time

Wow, I really appreciate all of the quick replies and information! You all are bringing light to my dream, keep it coming please
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If you want to work with oil/gas, Switzerland is probably not the place. Try Scotland (Aberdeen) for rig work.

…. Also you can't do Military service if you don't speak a Swiss language.
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Who says Switzerland is no place to enter the oil + gas industry?

Here a list of the top ten global oil and commodities traders by The Telegraph: half of them have their headquarters in Switzerland!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...s-traders.html

Some of them, like Glencore, are not only traders, but own also mining sites.
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Who says Switzerland is no place to enter the oil + gas industry?
Exactly -What about Transocean, next to the Co-op in Blandonnet? I'd not heard of them before Deepwater Horizon, but they turn out to be one of the world's biggest players.

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Only sharing from experience, three things to consider:

1.) I know of a case where a Zurich born and raised person who speaks German, French and English fluently with a PhD in geology from ETH Zurich took three years to find an entry level position. The waiting list is long, the jobs are few. Your chances are much much much higher in England or France.

2.) Unless your education caters to the commodity end of the spectrum, chances are, if you did find a job "In Switzerland" that typically has a field-work component...it would not actually be located out of the country. Reality is...unless you are into geothermal and hydro-power...there is virtually no GEO work to be had "in" country. For sure you could find a position "in" Switzerland...but you would likely live and work elsewhere thus defeating the goal of relocating to Switzerland.

3.) Keep reality in check. If you have no tangible contacts...you have NO tangible contacts. Meaning, you might have a Swiss passport...but you still may be considered an Auslander. Especially if you lack language skills.

Advice: everything you want is possible...but it requires patience and copious amounts planning (and luck). Start with language NOW. Best advice...as you said...continuing education is likely the best option for you. However, you'll likely need to live in the north as the more technical schools in your field tend to be there.
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Yes, excellent advice of Ttamasle: "Start with language NOW".

Also of help:
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/switzerland-how-to
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the Swiss government website www.ch.ch

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I know that some repatriation assistance exists, but I don't know the details. The best source of current information will probably be your consulate.


I've never heard of repatriation assistance for Swiss citizens returning to Switzerland. Is that what you mean? That'd be useful.


Does anyone have a source or link, please? Thank.

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I've never heard of repatriation assistance for Swiss citizens returning to Switzerland. Is that what you mean? That'd be useful.


Does anyone have a source or link, please? Thank.
Like I said, I don't know the details or conditions - but this, for example:
http://aso.ch/de/beratung/rueckwande....-kilcherfonds
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