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Re: When to apply Swiss kisses? And with whom?

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The most akward thing for me is who should make the kissy sounds when we touch cheeks

Go see Abfab, she'll soon sort you out !
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And when comes the fuc*y sucky?
Usualy after, but occasionaly before
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Old 09.01.2015, 22:54
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Go see Abfab, she'll soon sort you out !
You assume too much - just because the avatar's a girlie .....
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Old 09.01.2015, 22:59
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And when comes the fuc*y sucky?
Not usually in that order ....... well, according to some of my previous, dubious acquaintances, at least.
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Old 09.01.2015, 23:26
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Re: When to apply Swiss kisses? And with whom?

Three kissing ladies?; the better looking they are then the faster I move to this mode.

Three kissing men?; actually quite common here - more alcohol related, after sharing 3 wine bottles it gets quite normal.

Usually (in both cases) it is air kissing but if it gets closer then you have to rely on your instincts to manage the next steps
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Old 10.01.2015, 00:32
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Re: When to apply Swiss kisses? And with whom?

My big question is how do you start? Do you begin by moving left and brushing right cheeks, or go to the right with the left cheeks touching?
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My big question is how do you start? Do you begin by moving left and brushing right cheeks, or go to the right with the left cheeks touching?
I move to the left first (i.e. so right cheeks touch).

I think it basically comes to who starts first, then the other goes with that. A little bit like the decision making when two people are about to run into each other and they have to decide who steps to the side / other lane.
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Re: When to apply Swiss kisses? And with whom?

[QUOTE=Sbrinz;2315477]My big question is how do you start? Do you begin by moving left and brushing right cheeks, or go to the right with the left cheeks touching?[/QUOTE

If one goes to the same direction .. both will end up at the lips
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Re: When to apply Swiss kisses? And with whom?

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Most Swiss seem to be respectful of the fact that the kiss-kiss-kiss thing may not be part of your culture. So I think that they, too, are often hesitant. (Or maybe I'm just ugly? )
Yes you must be ugly Pancakes
I get the "she's English" comment from my husband when I am trying to hide behind the coats during the bisous ritual.
Of course someone will always manage to attack you & often the bisou is a millimeter from your mouth. Urgh! Then of course they sneeze, blow long drools of snot from around their nose & say "oh yes, I have just been diagnosed with Ebola/chicken flu/herpes".
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Re: When to transfer from handshake to three kisses?

I was raised in Malaysia so I understand the Asian/Western differences in greetings. In Asia a wave and a smile to a friend, a hug to a really good friend, and a hand shake for a more formal greeting e.g. Business environment.

Well it's exactly the here. Just the ceremony is a little different.
Friends a hand shake will do.
A really good friend three kisses (normally you start on the right cheek)
Business environment a hand shake.

As said earlier, never kiss a work colleague, especially in the office. It's frowned upon.

When in doubt a hand shake is alway welcome.
A little wave without a handshake would probably be considered a bit rude.

Also as a side note, the way you shake hands here is important. Although I'm sure you already know this, someone else reading this might not and could save them from an embarrassing situation.

I remember when I was a boy my father pulled me aside (after he observed how I shook hands) to teach me "the correct way" to shake. He said no one like to shake a wet fish.

It may sound obvious to us but if you have never been raised with this gesture and no one ever tells you, you can do it wrong. (Like bowing in Japan, there is an etiquette).
So what is generally regarded as the correct way?

Clutch the person hand firmly, but not too firm that it will hurt them. While you are shaking look at them directly in the eyes and smile and say hello. A warm dry hand is also important.
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Old 12.01.2015, 01:04
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Re: When to apply Swiss kisses? And with whom?

Hand shaking etiquette is pretty simple (or at least from what I have been taught), though can take some practice. Women are a bit more susceptible to this, and men need to keep this a bit in mind when shaking hands with women.

Unless situation calls for otherwise or without formality (e.g. between buddies):
  • Dry hands, preferably warm, although can be difficult if it is subzero out there.
  • Give the same strength that you receive. Commonly one party will "strengthen up" to meet the other.
  • Keep the hand as upright as possible. Handshaking where one hand goes over the other is an assertion of dominance.
  • Don't pull the clutched hand towards you.
  • Look at the other person in the eyes as you shake hands.
  • Note that for some cultures it is offensive to offer the left hand.
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Re: When to apply Swiss kisses? And with whom?

I find the air kisses quite silly and hardly ever do them (I'm swiss). Usually I say so to nobody in particular ("in die Runde") before anybody has shaken/kissed hands at all, though they're not too popular around here (Ostschweiz) in the first place.
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Re: When to apply Swiss kisses? And with whom?

Yes, in Switzerland you give 3 kisses, in Germany usually two. If you meet someone for the first time you can shake hands. That's very formal and friendly. If you meet someone for the second time and you already know the Person a Little bit (because you talked together) then you could give 3 kisses. But if you only met the Person for some seconds, then you should still shake hands. But swiss Germans don't take that very serious and there are no rules. try to find out if the Person likes you, or look at the others how they act.
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Old 16.01.2015, 13:41
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Yes, in Switzerland you give 3 kisses, in Germany usually two. If you meet someone for the first time you can shake hands. That's very formal and friendly. If you meet someone for the second time and you already know the Person a Little bit (because you talked together) then you could give 3 kisses. But if you only met the Person for some seconds, then you should still shake hands. But swiss Germans don't take that very serious and there are no rules. try to find out if the Person likes you, or look at the others how they act.
At what stage should one exchange spittle/phlegm?
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At what stage should one exchange spittle/phlegm?

When the bloody Swiss Central Bank intervenes !
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Re: When to apply Swiss kisses? And with whom?

What i want to know is the etiquette with talking whilst giving the 3 kisses. And making the smoochy noises?
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What i want to know is the etiquette with talking whilst giving the 3 kisses. And making the smoochy noises?
I don't know about others, but normally I'd find it difficult to talk and kiss at the same time. Some people may sneak in a word or two between kisses (i.e. swapping cheeks), but otherwise awkward. Besides, it's done quickly and then you resume conversation.

As for smoochy noises, why the big need? Unless you are both in a very close relationship, just a normal kiss. This isn't first base.
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Re: When to apply Swiss kisses? And with whom?

I`m also not a kiss-kiss-kiss person, and have learned to avoid it by simply sticking my hand out for a shake - keeping a distance back - and they get the message.

Imporant is to say the persons name with the Howdy-Doody hand-shake.

Sometimes names evade my memory ..... and then they say (like Hey you forgot my name!?) their name - very important to a Swiss to have their name mentioned in the greeting. Is there some curse if names are not mentioned in greeting?

What pisses me off the most though is the clinking of individual wine glasses! Ten people at a dining table and everyone has to have their glass clinked, their name said while gazing into their eyes, and saying Swiss equivelent of "Down the hatch and up yours".

Apéro white wine can`t be sipped before the clinky-clinky thing.
Red wine with meal and clinky-clinky again - usually involving having to get up, stumble around chairs, to reach end of table glasses - all this making such a fuss and racket in the restaurant.

I`m not too good at maths, but ten clinking wine glasses each clinking ten others makes one hundred clinks?! Times twice for the next wine! 200 clinks!
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I`m not too good at maths, but ten clinking wine glasses each clinking ten others makes one hundred clinks?! Times twice for the next wine! 200 clinks!
Actually assuming that there are ten people and every person clinks glasses with each other, that would be 45 clinks altogether.

100 clinks means that each person will clink twice with each other (e.g. A clinks B and later B clinks A again)...and then each also clinks themselves (awkward ).

In my circles, for most of us we just try and clink in one communal knock of glasses in the centre, then clink the remainder and raise a glass to those we can't reach on the other side of the table. Just make sure you look into their eyes.

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In my circles, for most of us we just try and clink in one communal knock of glasses in the centre, then clink the remainder and raise a glass to those we can't reach on the other side of the table. Just make sure you look into their eyes.
Yup. It can be very much a group-customs thing.

Generally, as soon as people need to get on their feet, most will welcome the opportunity to avoid that (let's make it make sense, shall we). spontaneous starter would be for somebody to raise their glass high in the air (after clinking their immediate and next-closest neighbors) and say something like "söll gelte" ("es soll zählen", not sure if that works with a serious foreign accent) after they made eye contact with the people that should be clinked next but realised the distance is a bit too much.

Usually anything like that is okay as long as you are trying to, and do, make eye contact with the person that would be next in the virtual line.
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