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230 Volt at the light switches but no lamp

In our new appartment we have 2 light switches with no function at all.
We ordered the eletric plan and recognized that one ceiling lamp connection is completely missing. Solid stone where the lamp cables should come out.

I controlled the light switches, 230 Volt are running here, waiting to be used - and this since full 20 years! Is this regular daily life in Switzerland or is this a crime? Please tell me. Thank you.
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In our new appartment we have 2 light switches with no function at all.
We ordered the eletric plan and recognized that one ceiling lamp connection is completely missing. Solid stone where the lamp cables should come out.

I controlled the light switches, 230 Volt are running here, waiting to be used - and this since full 20 years! Is this regular daily life in Switzerland or is this a crime? Please tell me. Thank you.
Perhaps is power supply to the hidden cameras and microphones that monitor your activities 24/7.

Might be a team of folks somewhere rolling with laughter at your obvious distress.
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Re: 230 Volt at the light switches but no lamp

HI Walter52 ,


Unfortunatelly that is a normal think here .
Sometime they connect a lot's of stuffs on the same chain .
For example if one of your socket's it doesn't work and you don't have a ceiling light in your room that is because the socket and the lamp are on the same chain.
In a lot's of the old building they have this problem,because they saving cables like that .
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Re: 230 Volt at the light switches but no lamp

Most likely they control switched sockets.

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Re: 230 Volt at the light switches but no lamp

Exactly. Look on your outlets to see if some of them have a little logo on them, like this:
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The socket with the symbol is the switched socket. This is really common in living rooms.

Or the switches are not actually switches but rather simple pushbuttons. These in turn control a switch (relay) in the electric panel that controls a lamp or socket. (This is especially common for hallways, where multiple switches control the same set of lamps.)
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Re: 230 Volt at the light switches but no lamp

Thank you all so far for your response.
I should have said push buttons instead of switches.

Yes I have switchable power outlets in the living room. Just a minute ago I checked all 256 combinations of pushing buttons on and off to find out that the switchable are controlled by a different push button than the ones I wrote about.

I fear the horrible truth is in building this house 20 years ago the relevant push buttons were set under 230 volt while the corresponding power output for the lamp is completely missing.

@ratbag: the NSA already knows everything about me, I am pretty sure monitoring me 24/7 is a very boring task for them.
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Boring?....

Not really... I enjoy every minute of it
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I should have said push buttons instead of switches.
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I fear the horrible truth is in building this house 20 years ago the relevant push buttons were set under 230 volt while the corresponding power output for the lamp is completely missing.
Sorry, I think you misunderstood: when I said a "simple push button", what I mean is that it's a button that doesn't switch the voltage to the lamp. A button that ONLY sends a signal to the electrical panel. Thus, such a button has no 230V output whatsoever, just a single cable to the electrical panel.

(As opposed to an ordinary switch, which has power coming in one side, and power coming out the other side when activated. These are visually indistinguishable.)
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Re: 230 Volt at the light switches but no lamp

Why don't you post a good-quality scan of the electrical plan so we can see?

One possibility, if my suspicion that it's a button, but not a switch, is correct: perhaps the relay in the electrical panel has failed. Have one person stand in front of the open electrical panel, and the other person presses the button repeatedly. Something should click, and if you look for it, probably something moves as well. If not, it's either broken, or it's wired some other way.
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