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Re: Why do so many people in Zurich smoke?

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You're both being as childish as each other.
Either get a room or give it a rest the pair of you.
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Re: Why do so many people in Zurich smoke?

Another burning trash can at the Flughafen Tram Stop. I would have moved, unfortunately the whole tram stop was pretty thick with smoke from burning plastic. But that's cool, I'm working on my tolerance. After all, mouthbreathers that are too f'n stupid to properly dispose of a cigarette deserve respect too, just like people who eat chocolate or grow flowers or wear hats or whatever. It's all the same!
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Old 04.03.2015, 12:51
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Another burning trash can at the Flughafen Tram Stop. I would have moved, unfortunately the whole tram stop was pretty thick with smoke from burning plastic. But that's cool, I'm working on my tolerance. After all, mouthbreathers that are too f'n stupid to properly dispose of a cigarette deserve respect too, just like people who eat chocolate or grow flowers or wear hats or whatever. It's all the same!
There was a fire in some scrub land next to a car fly over the other day in Winterthur.

A cigarette thrown out of a window of a car on the fly-over probably.
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Re: Why do so many people in Zurich smoke?

Look what the bastard smokers did in Chile!

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Re: Why do so many people in Zurich smoke?

Clarkson won't be happy.
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Re: Why do so many people in Zurich smoke?

Hmm...I don't think sticking to already existing reasonable legislature and making sure people's health get protected would be puritan, childish or too PC. Some kind of progress. A bit late here but at least that. People will step up their assertiveness in protecting their rights, sooner or later. I think me not having my kid exposed to smoke in public, nor me giving her a bad example, would show my inability to enjoy myself. There are much less conservative and boring ways to enjoy oneself, than lighting up, btw.. It is actually good smoking has stopped being cool, at least for new generations, as far as I have been told by them. And the new teens, while we are at it, are far from being puritans.
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Look what the bastard smokers did in Chile!

Now that's just not fair! Smokers haven't started any volcanoes (yet), but come to think of it, Yellowstone Park (where the North Fork fire of 1988 burned 600,000 acres and was started by a dropped cigarette) sits on an active volcano. But no one died, so no harm, no foul!

Unlike the 1999 Mont Blanc tunnel fire, thought to be caused by a smoker throwing his butt out the window, killing 39 people. Not very considerate.

But hey, a hobby is a hobby is a hobby!
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But hey, a hobby is a hobby is a hobby!
Yeah.

I prefer addicts to knitting than substances.

But understand those who rebel against denying oneself joys. Hedonist, moi. But it's hard to imagine "smoking in moderation is ok" if it's others who I'd push passively smoke with me or my kid who gets exposed to by products of smoking since that certainly stays around and pollutes. Residues of tar, etc. are toxic.

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Re: Why do so many people in Zurich smoke?

When I fist came to Europe I was surprised how many people are smoking, in Australia you barely see anyone, maybe it is because a pack of cigs costs 25 $
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Old 04.03.2015, 18:25
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When I fist came to Europe I was surprised how many people are smoking, in Australia you barely see anyone, maybe it is because a pack of cigs costs 25 $
They've come along way. I remember a few years ago, the cigarette packets were huge and contained about fifty cigarettes rather than the twenty over here.
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Re: Why do so many people in Zurich smoke?

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Much more importantly -

The people in here who feel so passionately about reducing smoking in this country (myself included)

What can we do? Contact the health minister? Join what association? Donate money somewhere? How to get a vote going?

Maybe is there some online group we can join to bounce all these ideas back and forth?
Before a referendum is introduced, I would be interested to know how best to annoy smokers in the interim when they light up? Some suggested laying a stinking fart near them or start eating very smelly food like dry fish or something (I.e Bombay duck) as I don't believe either actions are illegal and they are in their right to do either action freely.
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See what I mean, everyone? These people are puritans. They might not wear tall hats or burn witches any more, but sooner or later their words will betray them.

Thank you, Tom, for proving my point.
I could lend them my lighter, they probably don't have one lurking in their big pockets full of febreze and tasty mints.

And come on Music Chick, when we met a few years ago at the Pickwick pub in Geneva you smoked a couple of my cigs.

That's another thing i love about "non smokers" - never buy their own.

Anyway, i give up. I have repeated and repeated that i am not a nasty blow in your face smoker. I do not do it around children, but really sitting outside - perhaps the guy at the next table with awful garlic breath would upset you guys too. Buy a bubble, car fumes, food smells, smoke. Yup, buy a bubble and live happily ever after in it. And i shall still kill myself with my B and H.

Odile, you talk about cocaine.. you do not know the first thing about addictions. What's yours? i would imagine chocolate, seeing as you are a fat person. Size 20 - i am a size 8 and proud of it.

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I could lend them my lighter, they probably don't have one lurking in their big pockets full of febreze and tasty mints.

And come on Music Chick, when we met a few years ago at the Pickwick pub in Geneva you smoked a couple of my cigs.

That's another thing i love about "non smokers" - never buy their own.
I think that's one bad thing I did past 10 years...shame on me, should have had more fun

I hate nicotine. And am a bit jealous of people who can get hooked on stuff..except sports, the only thing that works for me. And music.
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Re: Why do so many people in Zurich smoke?

Shock therapy also helps!
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They've come along way. I remember a few years ago, the cigarette packets were huge and contained about fifty cigarettes rather than the twenty over here.
Haven't come far enough they need to push the price a lot higher and increase the tax on cigarettes a lot more
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Odile, you talk about cocaine.. you do not know the first thing about addictions. What's yours? i would imagine chocolate, seeing as you are a fat person. Size 20 - i am a size 8 and proud of it.
Come on Patsy- you must know this is way out of order, no? Have I ever made personal remarks about your smoking? I've known very many young people addicted to cocain, skunk, alcohol and fags (and I used to smoke like a chimney from the age of 15, as said). As a 6th Form specialist teacher and tutor- we worked closely with the drugs education team in 2 counties too.

Just no need for this kind of personal attack surely (and yes I do eat a small amount of Lindt 70% with sea salt chocolate every day, thanks). Water over a duck's back- but very much no on.
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Haven't come far enough they need to push the price a lot higher and increase the tax on cigarettes a lot more
No problem, just grow your own.

(unless you live in Italy, where doing so is illegal, but cigarettes are cheaper there, so why bother)

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Come on Patsy- you must know this is way out of order, no? Have I ever made personal remarks about your smoking? I've known very many young people addicted to cocain, skunk, alcohol and fags (and I used to smoke like a chimney from the age of 15, as said). As a 6th Form specialist teacher and tutor- we worked closely with the drugs education team in 2 counties too.

Just no need for this kind of personal attack surely (and yes I do eat a small amount of Lindt 70% with sea salt chocolate every day, thanks). Water over a duck's back- but very much no on.
Lindt is awesome. Every day and not every day. And I am not big on chocolate, still recognize it. It's kinda cool addiction, tbh.

I am off to inhale Olbas, hahaha.
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Re: Why do so many people in Zurich smoke?

OK, i am sorry. Odile, i was a bit out of order.

But this subject comes up month in month out.

Now the terraces are opening it's going to be worse.

All i say or want to say, is live with it. And i do feel for non smokers i do, but do not attack me for being a smoker along with the thousands of others.

Your decision, my decision.

Basta.

A friend bought cigs in Laos last month - 12p a packet. So perhaps you non or anti smokers should not consider going to China or anywhere else as your next job if you think it is bad here.
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OK, i am sorry. Odile, i was a bit out of order.
No harm done- just had to say it - but thanks.

Your choice, of course- and it seems you are considerate. Many smokers are not, sadly- you are in the middle of a meal, and some light up with the wind blowing it in your face, ruining it. Or you are sitting with grand-kids, and the smoke is all over them, etc. Thanks for being considerate. My mother was always very slim, and in her latter years a little bag of bones- smoked 30 a day or more from age 15 to 94.
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