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Old 01.03.2015, 11:04
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Re: Why do so many people in Zurich smoke?

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As opposed the chocolate example, smoking is other peoples business. When I'm standing at the station waiting for a train and someone lights up next to me, I'm subjected to their second hand smoke, and as is normally the case I have to move to avoid it. If you want to slowly kill yourself with smoking, I have no problem with that, I just don't want to be around you as you are doing it.
Fair enough.

I find drunk people irritating, too. They start fights, they kill people on the roads, they're a general nuisance.

I think, therefore, that the consumption of alcohol should be banned. You know, for the public good and all.
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Old 01.03.2015, 11:07
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Second hand smoke kills. The first thing my wife notices when arriving in Switzerland is how the HB looks like a giant cloud and is oppressive to breath in. It's an absolutely embarrassing and terrible situation for such an advanced country.

I don't care if you want to kill yourself, but you are contributing to a boatload of other people getting cancer just because they travel by train or bus instead of car. We *must* get public smoking under control.

I'm not interested in comparing statistics about which country kills slightly fewer innocents through second-hand smoke either. This isn't acceptable until people have the decency to stop smoking in public areas, which clearly isn't happening on its own.

the SBB management, in charge with Zch-HB and all other rail stations, hesitates to declare the open perrons as indoor zones, in fear simply to drive the smokers onto the next roads. There however is a total Smoking ban in the Underground sections Landesmuseum and L÷wenstrasse and in ALL the Restaurants. And there is a total Smoking ban on all trains, trams and buses
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Old 01.03.2015, 11:13
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Fair enough.

I find drunk people irritating, too. They start fights, they kill people on the roads, they're a general nuisance.

I think, therefore, that the consumption of alcohol should be banned. You know, for the public good and all.
The clear difference being that cigarette smoke is harmful to everyone for 100% of the time they are exposed to it. Alcohol is not.
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The clear difference being that cigarette smoke is harmful to everyone for 100% of the time they are exposed to it. Alcohol is not.
I don't see a difference. They're all EVIL! And we must all be saved from EVIL!!!

It's for your own good.
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Re: Why do so many people in Zurich smoke?

I suspect one could find a direct correlation between an increase of smoking in Zuerich and the rise of tourism from China.

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I don't see a difference. They're all EVIL! And we must all be saved from EVIL!!!

It's for your own good.
Okayyy. Right.
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Re: Why do so many people in Zurich smoke?

The problem in CH is not that too many people smoke, the problem is that they are allowed to smoke in public place. On the bus/tram stops, on the train platforms, in the queues etc. But same thing happens in Austria and my feeling was that it was even worse than in Switzerland!
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Re: Why do so many people in Zurich smoke?

In the UK, smoking is fast approaching socially unacceptable for teenagers and younger people, like drunk driving now is.
Why isn't it the case here?
Why are so many youngsters smoking?
Do they think it's cool?
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the problem is that they are allowed to smoke in public place
And why, pray tell, is that a problem?

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Re: Why do so many people in Zurich smoke?

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And why, pray tell, is that a problem?

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Because I pray not to smoke with them and pray for a smoke-free spot on the platform/bus stop while waiting?
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Because I pray not to smoke with them and pray for a smoke-free spot on the platform/bus stop while waiting?
Do you have feet?
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Because I pray not to smoke with them and pray for a smoke-free spot on the platform/bus stop while waiting?
Simple solution: don't use public transport.

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Do you have feet?
And according to you I don't have the right to STAND and wait while not being suffocated by cancerogenic smoke? Not to mention a pregnant woman or a women with kids....
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And according to you I don't have the right to STAND and wait while not being suffocated by cancerogenic smoke? Not to mention a pregnant woman or a women with kids....
Of course you do. You also have the right to stand still while being attacked by a poorly-trained labrador, or while trees are being brought down by a gale, but only an idiot would do so.
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In the UK, smoking is fast approaching socially unacceptable for teenagers and younger people, like drunk driving now is.
Why isn't it the case here?
Why are so many youngsters smoking?
Do they think it's cool?
Of course they do, especially with wacky-backy inside. If i'm right they are introducing/enforcing the law against drug driving in the UK tomorrow.
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In the UK, smoking is fast approaching socially unacceptable for teenagers and younger people, like drunk driving now is.
Why isn't it the case here?
Why are so many youngsters smoking?
Do they think it's cool?
I see a lot of people, young people, smoking in f.e. Scotland (the only part of the UK I often go to). If this is getting less than probably more due to the high prices of cigarettes rather than that it is uncool? And that drunk driving, don┤t come to the Scottish Borders........
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Of course you do. You also have the right to stand still while being attacked by a poorly-trained labrador, or while trees are being brought down by a gale, but only an idiot would do so.
Now you are being off-topic and rudely offensive. Smoking kills and let them kill themselves - spare the bystanders that are harassed by minority for they short-lived pleasure of smoke :>
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Now you are being off-topic and rudely offensive. Smoking kills and let them kill themselves - spare the bystanders that are harassed by minority for they short-lived pleasure of smoke :>
Sorry- I'll go and stand in the naughty corner!
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Now you are being off-topic and rudely offensive. Smoking kills and let them kill themselves - spare the bystanders that are harassed by minority for they short-lived pleasure of smoke :>
It's totally on-topic. You find smoking unpleasant - just as other people find being attacked by labradors or rendered unconscious by falling branches unpleasant - so move.

Why should the rest of the world change its behaviour to suit your personal preferences?
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