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hi, I'm doing a project in my workshop making a tiny miniature cannon and to make the powder i need lots of matches, does anyone know where i can buy them in Basel and if they age restrict them at all?
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Re: buying matches?

Migros, Coop etc. all have them - look next to either the scented candles or the barbecue firelighters.

How many is 'lots'?
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Don't tell him! He might be one of them muslamic terrrrists!
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Re: buying matches?

HA don't worry im nice and white, also i need to do some soldering work and a small blowtorch would help, do they restrict them?
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Re: buying matches?

oh and caps for cap guns? any ideas?
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Re: buying matches?

I have no clue which country you are used to which restricts the sale of a blow torch or soldering iron...
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I have no clue which country you are used to which restricts the sale of a blow torch or soldering iron...
In the United Kingdom there have even been cases of people refused fruit without ID "in case it goes rotten and ferments".

That country is mad, I tell you. Mad!
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I have no clue which country you are used to which restricts the sale of a blow torch or soldering iron...
I bought an electric soldering iron at Radio Shack in the USA a few years ago. The instruction leaflet said I should wear hearing protection (ear muffs) while using the iron.
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oh and caps for cap guns? any ideas?
Manor usually has those.
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I bought an electric soldering iron at Radio Shack in the USA a few years ago. The instruction leaflet said I should wear hearing protection (ear muffs) while using the iron.
This is a precaution just in case you try to scratch an itchy ear and accidentally stab yourself in the ear with a hot sharp bit of iron.

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This is a precaution just in case you try to scratch an itchy ear and accidentally stab yourself in the ear with a hot sharp bit of iron.

Got it. I do wear my reading glasses while stirring cheese fondue despite them fogging up; those darn long forks, ya know.
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oh and caps for cap guns? any ideas?

Do-it-yourself Shops of Migros, COOP, Jumbo
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Re: buying matches?

..Uhh! Everybody missing the obvious here, IF you are over 18 then you can simply go to the gun shop and buy black powder, you just have to sign a document that you will not use it to make explosions. IF you are under 18 then you shouldn't be playing with firearms especially home made ones, you get to keep your fingers that way, also if your "cannon" has a muzzle velocity over 0.7 Joule then it needs to be proofed.

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oh and caps for cap guns? any ideas?
Caps .. COOP had a big display of plastic and paper type caps .. I tried to persuade my 5 year daughter that she wanted a cap gun but no luck, she wanted a monster high DVD.
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I bought an electric soldering iron at Radio Shack in the USA a few years ago. The instruction leaflet said I should wear hearing protection (ear muffs) while using the iron.
Are you sure that it wasn't a soldering GUN?



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_energy

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Re: buying matches?

You want to make sure nothing's left in the barrel after the cannon has fired. Using some kind of cartridge may be useful, lest you need some cleaning mechanism.

As kids we would buy small cannons made for ladycrackers ("Frauenfürze"). They used to be sold around August 1st, and during Fasnacht. The cannons typically were sold by whoever sold ladycrackers, including Manor and specialised toy shops. Ladycrackers are still sold, but I have no idea about the cannons.
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..Uhh! Everybody missing the obvious here, IF you are over 18 then you can simply go to the gun shop and buy black powder, you just have to sign a document that you will not use it to make explosions. IF you are under 18 then you shouldn't be playing with firearms especially home made ones, you get to keep your fingers that way, also if your "cannon" has a muzzle velocity over 0.7 Joule then it needs to be proofed.
I was going to suggest this, but then I decided against it in case OP gets his eyes put out in a mishap.

OP, don't use powder from matches. They are a pain to harvest, they produce a lot of fouling and you get precious little material. Either do as slammer suggests and buy some black powder, or buy some firecrackers and extract the powder inside.

Firecrackers contain flash powder these days, which tends to have more predictable burn rate/pressure characteristics than black powder.

The burn rate of black powder depends very much on the packing density. This is less the case with flash powder. More predictability is always good in these sorts of experiments.

If you want to be 100% homemade, you can also buy charcoal, sulphur, saltpeter and a mortar+pestle and start grinding. Look up the optimal ratios online. For heaven's sake, don't grind the ingredients combined, do them separately. Black powder is sensitive to static electricity and a spark can set it off. I speak from experience when I say that it is not funny when you turn up to work without eyebrows.

Finally, make sure your cannon is strong enough and don't use thin and brittle (high carbon content) metals as those are prone to shatter. It is highly annoying when you have to pick bits of shrapnel out of your face. Last but not least, let me reiterate what was mentioned before: always clean the barrel out after a shot - there may be smoldering bits of propellant left in there that may cause premature ejection (heh-heh).
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