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Old 10.03.2015, 09:54
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Actually, my question is if there is a way of finding the owner of the bike, through the vignette number.
Probably not for us mere mortals .... only big brother. Apart from that, it'll be a couple of years out of date.

Even with the frame number (on underside of pedal hub), only the bizzies can match that if a 'stolen' report has been made.
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Re: Returning a stolen bike

I agree with most of the above, get him to return it. This is a golden opportunity for you to milk some good behaviour into the group of them, I would talk to them together.
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WTF are you doing losing a mate and leaving him there?
What, no one had a phone to sort this out?
Why didn't you call me so I could pick him up?
Next time make a plan with what ifs?
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Old 10.03.2015, 10:48
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Actually, my question is if there is a way of finding the owner of the bike, through the vignette number.
I don't think so. The bicycle vignette system doesn't exist any more and even when it did the vignette wasn't traceable to the owner as they weren't registered anywhere.
Has the bike got any other identifying marks on it? The police may know if it's been reported stolen.

In your shoes if the boy doesn't return it to where he got it from today I would take the bike to the police and tell them you found it leaning against your garden wall, it's been there for a couple of days and you assume somebody has 'lost' it.

I would then contact the boy's parents and tell them what happened.

We have a 15 year old son and I would want to know about it if he'd done something like that. Mind you if he'd been out all night without telling us where he was he'd already have been in serious trouble anyway.
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Old 10.03.2015, 11:37
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Re: Returning a stolen bike

I wont even attempt to document some of my former activities in the last half of my second decade ...... I'm only glad that my immediate family didn't have an inkling.

Nah, don't shop him.
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Old 10.03.2015, 12:04
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Managing lost property is not a police function here, it is the job of the town hall if found in a public place.
Nope.

I found something of value, took it to the town hall.

They told me to take it to the police.

Cantonal police told me that they were the wrong police, phoned the correct police (local police in a neighboring town), and agreed to handle it and pass it on to the local police.

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Re: Returning a stolen bike

I don't think there's a way to find out the owner unless he put his address on a sticker on the bike somewhere (some/few people do), not even for the police.
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This kid, a friend of my son, stayed over on Saturday night/Sunday morning. He got separated from his group on Saturday night, and missed his bus. But somehow managed to show up at our place around 4:30AM. It turns out he stole a bike and rode it over to us. The bike is still sitting near our place, and the kid is long gone. I'm trying to figure out how to return the bike without being incriminated. I'm debating whether or not to rat the kid out. I wonder if I should speak to his parents. I'd just like to get the bike back to its rightful owner with minimal hassle. What would you do?
I'd give your son and his mates a bollocking for leaving one of their own behind.


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Old 10.03.2015, 17:48
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I agree with most of the above, get him to return it. This is a golden opportunity for you to milk some good behaviour into the group of them, I would talk to them together.
eg.
WTF are you doing losing a mate and leaving him there?
What, no one had a phone to sort this out?
Why didn't you call me so I could pick him up?
Next time make a plan with what ifs?
Yep, I done some bad shit with my mates but we always have each others back.


All is well that ends well.
I think giving kids at that age the 3rd degree is a sure-fire way of getting them to clam up. I'm just glad they honestly told me what happened. Gotta stay within the circle of trust, or you otherwise lose them.
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Re: Returning a stolen bike

I would call his parents, then have a talk with all kids involved with the parents present.
Then, I'd chew out the parents for not knowing or inquiring where their kid was at 4:30 am.
I'd hand over the bike to the parents and let them take over.
.....and DB is right.... never leave one of the group behind.


What was a 15 year old (or several for that matter) doing out so late?
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Old 10.03.2015, 19:32
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I would call his parents, then have a talk with all kids involved with the parents present.
Then, I'd chew out the parents for not knowing or inquiring where their kid was at 4:30 am.
I'd hand over the bike to the parents and let them take over.
.....and DB is right.... never leave one of the group behind.


What was a 15 year old (or several for that matter) doing out so late?
Yeah, alright, maybe that was partly my fault. They said they would be home by 2AM. I told them to call me if they need a ride. I heard them come in at 2AM. I figured everything was alright, so went to sleep. They didn't tell me until Sunday afternoon what had happened. I didn't know about the stolen bike until Monday morning.
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Old 10.03.2015, 19:40
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Re: Returning a stolen bike

Wow even 2 am seems really late for a 15 year old to me. Where do they go until that time?
The latest ours has been out until is 11 PM ( after a bit of negotiation) and he was really chuffed to be allowed out that late.
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Yeah, alright, maybe that was partly my fault. They said they would be home by 2AM. I told them to call me if they need a ride. I heard them come in at 2AM. I figured everything was alright, so went to sleep. They didn't tell me until Sunday afternoon what had happened. I didn't know about the stolen bike until Monday morning.
Wow... and did the other kids parents know they were staying out till 2am too? Sounds like you may have dropped the ball if you were acting as guardian for the weekend, and if so then you are lucky that the kid didn't get into any trouble or have an accident on the way home.

And yeah, it really sucks that his friends left him and didn't even say a word... guessing they were drinking/smoking or similar and maybe didn't want to face you in whatever state they were in.
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Re: Returning a stolen bike

i think id call his parents, explain the situation and the lad with his dad, of whom i think is keen on giving him a lesson, shall put the bike in the trunk, bring it back where it was taken from and explain what happened to the owner. "sorry, was in need of a ride, didnt mean to steal but just borrow it, hence i brought it back. i will not do this again. but thx for understanding." -> sorted.

if the owners parents are feckers... well... they could report it which will defo end in nothing but another ear full by the cops. if it all wents well under "common sense".
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Old 10.03.2015, 20:06
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Wow even 2 am seems really late for a 15 year old to me. Where do they go until that time?
I guess the usual stuff: sex, drugs, shoplifting.
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I guess the usual stuff: sex, drugs, shoplifting.
The first two I can well believe but the third one? In Switzerland? Which shops are open at 2am for them to go thieving in?
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Old 10.03.2015, 20:57
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Re: Returning a stolen bike

yo, we're in Switzerland. I feel bad enough they have to grow up in such an uneventful place where there is nothing much to rebel against. Its pretty safe out there at night. They went to party, not far from us.
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I feel bad enough they have to grow up in such an uneventful place where there is nothing much to rebel against.
Isn't that something to be happy about?
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Old 10.03.2015, 21:07
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Isn't that something to be happy about?
Yes, of course. But I'm just saying that it is so tame out there, I wouldn't mind if the kids had an actual adventure from time to time.
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Yes, of course. But I'm just saying that it is so tame out there, I wouldn't mind if the kids had an actual adventure from time to time.
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Old 10.03.2015, 21:14
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Re: Returning a stolen bike

I think a little rebellion is essential for a good liberal education.

Anyway, the kid came by after school and picked up the bike. He said he would return it, though I wouldn't know whether or not he did. I'll just leave it at that and his conscience.
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