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Re: Expat life, culture clash and cognitive biases

Yeah - whole lot of good that did him (who knows?).

Regardless - one of my favorite pieces of writing on this topic - http://moreintelligentlife.com/story...-his-own-words
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Re: Expat life, culture clash and cognitive biases

Saying somebody is good at something doesn't say others are worse...unless people want to read it that way, of course. Saying somebody is better, can also mean better than before. Self betterment is fab. Why hate on it. People do it all sorts of way.

I did stay here also to offer my child an environment different from home, to stimulate her growth in a different way than home. Says nothing about people at home. Says a lot about my own choices and priorities. People can ridicule them, why not, infer or assume...yet cannot interpret my choices as superior, since I don't feel that way at all.

There's strange willingness of people in this thread to push ideas and clichés on those who don't demonstrate them. It would be entertaining if the superiority complex was actually present. Clichés are not entertaining, they are boring, if anything. Saying a person who spells out she is all for a personal challenge, self improvement and adjustment - quickly calling that person a snob or an elitist, feeling superior..is just as formulaic as it is to expect a person simply calling themselves "expat" to represent something. They might or they might not. Don't be prejudiced. I expatriated. That term honestly doesn't exist for me because I don't let it define me. But I am not going police other people's vocabulary if they want to call me that way, who cares. For some reason, people haven't. Semantics. Clichés, prejudice...seek and ye shall find. I'd rather not pollute my system with those, and if people on their self betterment journey need a comparison with others, usually it is just a question of time and growing confidence to distance oneself and start using oneself as a point of reference.
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Neologism
Expatite (noun): /ˈɛkspætaɪt/
  • a strong desire or taste for meeting and talking to expats
    • I felt better after I lost my expatite a few years ago
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There's strange willingness of people in this thread to push ideas and clichés on those who don't demonstrate them. It would be entertaining if the superiority complex was actually present. Clichés are not entertaining, they are boring, if anything.
Yeah, thought police at work...

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the ENGLISH SPEAKERS (Brits, US-Americans, Canadians, Australians, NewZealanders, South African ...
I have no wish to start a pissing match but what other kind of Americans are there than US-Americans? Canadians and Mexicans? No. They are geographically North American but truly Canadian and Mexican and proud of that distinguishing fact.

Off the soapbox now...
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I have no wish to start a pissing match..
Ah , no worries, I think it has started...ever since OP got some replies

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We're expats and we're GRRRREAT!

So sorry but most on the pic look like typical Aargau AGGLOS

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Ah , no worries, I think it has started...ever since OP got some replies
If this innocent theme caused such reactions.....
Thanks Goodness she didn't want to inquire about some irregularities of Novartis or something.... That would have made ahem, this forum to explode...


Btw OP, I liked your blog.

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I have no wish to start a pissing match but what other kind of Americans are there than US-Americans? Canadians and Mexicans? No. They are geographically North American but truly Canadian and Mexican and proud of that distinguishing fact. .
Mexicans
Guatemalans
Hundurians
El Salvadorians
Nicaraguans
Costa Ricans
Panamanians
Kubans
Haitians
Jamaicans
People from Dom. Rep.
Columbians
Venezuelans
Brasiliens
Guyaneses
Surinameses
Equadorians
Peruvians
Bolivians
Paraguayans
Chileans
Uruguayans
Argentinians
... and even some more


That's at least the way anybody on this world speaks of ... except for the arrogant, ignorant narcissistic US-Americans themselves ... in eventually every language except for the US-dogmatized "AEnglish".

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That's at least the way anybody on this world speaks of ... except for the arrogant, ignorant narcissistic US-Americans themselves ... in eventually every language except for the US-dogmatized "AEnglish".
WOOOOOT

Are you trying to say that not all expats are "well travelled"?
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Mexicans
Guatemalans
Hundurians
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Nicaraguans
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Kubans
Haitians
Jamaicans
People from Dom. Rep.
Columbians
Venezuelans
Brasiliens
Guyaneses
Surinameses
Equadorians
Peruvians
Bolivians
Paraguayans
Chileans
Uruguayans
Argentinians
... and even some more


That's at least the way anybody on this world speaks of ... except for the arrogant, ignorant narcissistic US-Americans themselves ... in eventually every language except for the US-dogmatized "AEnglish".
You really struggle with the English bit of englishforum.ch, don't you?

In English, American means citizen of the United States. That's all. Mexicans, Guatemalans, Argentinians or whatever are not, under any circumstances, considered to be Americans.

What speakers of Spanish, German and Swahili think or do is of no relevance here.

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Hundurians
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Nicaraguans
Costa Ricans
Panamanians
Kubans
Haitians
Jamaicans
People from Dom. Rep.
Columbians
Venezuelans
Brasiliens
Guyaneses
Surinameses
Equadorians
Peruvians
Bolivians
Paraguayans
Chileans
Uruguayans
Argentinians
... and even some more

First, those are not Anglophone Americans (except Jamicans) as Wollie was discussing.

Secondly, I've met many people from those countries and none has ever refered to themselves as "American". Ever. Unless they were actually American from the United States.

You've even listed them by their nationality but I see you didn't actually list them as.... American! Amazing isn't it?

Words have more than one meaning. In this case American means someone from the country of the United States of America and the other is someone from the continent(s) of (North/South) America. The second form is rarely used in English though you'll certainly find it in the dictionary.


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Um. No. The word for American from the United States in English, German, French, Portuguese and Italian is American. I'm sure it is the case also for many other langauges. It is only in Spanish where they started around the '80s to say United Statesian to refer to thier neighbors to the north.

The only people I've met who use the "US-American" thing are "faux culturally sensitive" Europeans. And thankfully there aren't too many of those around.
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First, those are not Anglophone Americans (except Jamicans) as Wollie was discussing.

Secondly, I've met many people from those countries and none has ever refered to themselves as "American". Ever. Unless they were actually American from the United States.

You've even listed them by their nationality but I see you didn't actually list them as.... American! Amazing isn't it?

Words have more than one meaning. In this case American means someone from the country of the United States of America and the other is someone from the continent(s) of (North/South) America. The second form is rarely used in English though you'll certainly find it in the dictionary.



Um. No. The word for American from the United States in English, German, French, Portuguese and Italian is American. I'm sure it is the case also for many other langauges. It is only in Spanish where they started around the '80s to say United Statesian to refer to thier neighbors to the north.

The only people I've met who use the "US-American" thing are "faux culturally sensitive" Europeans. And thankfully there aren't too many of those around.



Interesting is THIS
http://www.oas.org/en/default.asp


When I am in the USA (outside New York and Miami) i feel free to write simply about Americans, when speaking about AMERIKANER in German it is perfectly obvious that "USAers" are meant. But why not being correct and precise in writing ?


And now let's list English speaking American countries outside the USA
- Canada
- Bahamas
- Bermuda (British)
- Jamaica
- Puerto Rico (special status)
- Belize
- Trinidad & Tobago
- some British colonies in the Small Antilles
obvious is of course that nobody there describes himself as "AMERICAN" but quite to the contrary will emphasize the exact nationality


in a way, the USA historically became AMERICA with the Louisiana Purchase
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Re: Expat life, culture clash and cognitive biases

What is specifically interesting about that? FYI, words have more than one meaning, including the word "American".

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Um, because it is correct and precise to write American when you speak of Americans. US-American is something that has been made up in the last few years and that is used for some purpose that I don't understand. Some faux sense of indignation, I guess.

There is no one that is confused about which country an American comes from unless used in a specific instance to refer to all on the contient(s) as in your link above and in that case it is usually specified.

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- Canada
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- Jamaica
- Puerto Rico (special status)
- Belize
- Trinidad & Tobago
- some British colonies in the Small Antilles
Thanks for googling that for us. Did you notice none of them are actually called Americans? Nor are they called Trinidadian-Americans, Jamaican-Americans, etc.

From now on I'm going to call the Swiss European-but-not-EU-Swiss. You know, because we need to be precise.

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Exactly. So there is no need to specify "US" American. What part of that is not clear?

Yes. This is pet peeve of mine. Probably based on some cognitive biases.

Anywho. We are way off topic here.
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So an expat American is actually just a snob from Surinam. Got it.
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Cognitive bias also here, huh?

In German, "Amerika" clearly means the landmass comprising North and South America. There is no such thing as "die Amerikas" in German. The German Wikipedia disambiguation page on "Amerika" lists two main items, said landmass and "an unofficial name for the United States of America." In other words, in German it makes perfect sense to call people from the US "US-Amerikaner." The language you grew up with shapes your thinking, doesn't it?

Funny enough, the very first sentence on the English Wikipedia page on "America" reads, "The Americas, or America,[5][6][7] also known as the New World, are the combined continental landmasses of North America and South America,[8][9] in the Western Hemisphere.[10]"

America (whatever the spelling) stands for North plus South Africa not only in German, but in many, many other languages too. Maybe they all think that hijacking the name of a whole double continent for just one nation is a bit arrogant.

Another interesting detail: Amerigo Vespucci, the man after whom the whole double continent is named, never was even near the area that now is the USA. He was in South America, though.

So please cut those folks some slack, ok? As long as EFers keep using "Swiss" or "Switz" instead of "Switzerland," there's not much to moan about US Americans. It's just not worth seven EF threads.
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Yup.

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In German, "Amerika" clearly means the landmass comprising North and South America. There is no such thing as "die Amerikas" in German. The German Wikipedia disambiguation page on "Amerika" lists two main items, said landmass and "an unofficial name for the United States of America." In other words, in German it makes perfect sense to call people from the US "US-Amerikaner." The language you grew up with shapes your thinking, doesn't it?
On the German Wiki says the inhabitants of the United States of American. It doesn't say "US Amerikaner". It also says ""American" is the recommended form in the guidelines for official language in Germany [30], Austria [31] and Switzerland [32].". So the idea that someone above said that "everyone else but Americans use "US American" is wrong.

I worked for many years for a German company with both real live Germans and Americans working there. Not once did any of them every referre to their "US-Amerikan" colleagues. The only time I've ever heard it is here on EF. Is this a new thing?

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Funny enough, the very first sentence on the English Wikipedia page on "America" reads, "The Americas, or America,[5][6][7] also known as the New World, are the combined continental landmasses of North America and South America,[8][9] in the Western Hemisphere.[10]"

America (whatever the spelling) stands for North plus South Africa not only in German, but in many, many other languages too. Maybe they all think that hijacking the name of a whole double continent for just one nation is a bit arrogant.
That's the shortened version of the name of the country. As Mexico is the shortened version of the name of the country as is Brazil, etc. The nation was named a long time ago. It seems to have stuck. There's little that can probably be done about it now.

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So, let's start using European-Non-EU-Swiss. It's more precise.

Personally I think we need more ChemTrails threads but the mods keep closing them. So I'm left to b!tch about the ridiculousness that is "US Americans". I'm sure you have your bugaboos and I let you get one with them.
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