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The 30 minute commute (ZH)

Might I trouble the hive mind for suggestions of nice places to live (pretty location / friendly community / good school, sport, music etc offerings for tweens) that are within a 30 minute public transport commute of (say) Poststrasse in Zurich?

I know distance doesn't correlate perfectly with time once we take into account slow and fast trains, etc that, and I was thinking that EF might be a faster way to get a shortlist answers than trial and error at
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Many thanks!
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Re: The 30 minute commute (ZH)

Your question is worthless without knowledge of:
- Budget?
- Required size
- Alone or family

Seestrasse in Seefeld would be perfect if you have a large budget, are just a couple/singleton and looking for a 2.5-4.5 compact apartment.
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Re: The 30 minute commute (ZH)

Also need your income, religious confession, shoe size (joking about shoe size)

Baden is 15 mins direct to Zurich HB, and 15 mins gentle walk to Poststrasse. Accommodation is much cheaper than Zurich, has more convenient shopping (good for shoes, wide range, good prices for Switzerland), less pollution, schools can be very good, etc. Taxes are usually higher though, hence the other questions.

www.sbb.ch is what most people use for routeplanning.
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Re: The 30 minute commute (ZH)

the " Höngg " area might be of interest to you.
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Might I trouble the hive mind for suggestions of nice places to live (pretty location / friendly community / good school, sport, music etc offerings for tweens) that are within a 30 minute public transport commute of (say) Poststrasse in Zurich?

I know distance doesn't correlate perfectly with time once we take into account slow and fast trains, etc that, and I was thinking that EF might be a faster way to get a shortlist answers than trial and error at
http://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/vbz/en/i...timetable.html

Many thanks!
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Re: The 30 minute commute (ZH)

do you have a shoe fetish or something?
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Also need your income, religious confession, shoe size (joking about shoe size)

Baden is 15 mins direct to Zurich HB, and 15 mins gentle walk to Poststrasse. Accommodation is much cheaper than Zurich, has more convenient shopping (good for shoes, wide range, good prices for Switzerland), less pollution, schools can be very good, etc. Taxes are usually higher though, hence the other questions.

www.sbb.ch is what most people use for routeplanning.
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do you have a shoe fetish or something?
No, but Alice had shoe issues (in Wonderland)...
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Re: The 30 minute commute (ZH)

I heard from one of my collegue that if ur home is more than 75 mins by public transport, then u get free parking in ZH.
So, its better to opt for a car.
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I heard from one of my collegue that if ur home is more than 75 mins by public transport, then u get free parking in ZH.
So, its better to opt for a car.
Your colleague is pulling your leg.
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within a 30 minute public transport commute of (say) Poststrasse in Zurich?
Look at http://map.geo.admin.ch/?lang=de&top....reisezeit-oev and you will realize that the region you are looking is huge. And so is the number of your options.
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Look at http://map.geo.admin.ch/?lang=de&top....reisezeit-oev and you will realize that the region you are looking is huge. And so is the number of your options.
That map looks like just the thing. Thank you.

So all that remains is to navigate within the green zones to are nice places to live for people in our situation (with a focus on kids rather than us).

We're a family of four, need 3 bedrooms and (I guess) about 120 sqm. (I thought I'd been clear about kids with my reference to tweens, schools etc...?)

We have some flexibility with budget since we probably won't go with international schools. I know taxes can vary greatly by canton and commune, but assume some of that is balanced by rents, transport costs, etc? Or are there places where no such trade off occurs?

Anyway, if anyone is happy to share their "best kept secret" spots (Hongg, for instance, looks gorgeous, and I'd never heard of it!) we'd be thrilled to lend you a cup of sugar sometime.

I can't think how you people found out about my shoe fetish...
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Re: The 30 minute commute (ZH)

I should have been blunt: 30 minutes commute translates to "anywhere".

"pretty" is highly subjective, and somehow I suspect that your set of criteria will also include items like availability of broadband Internet, local shopping, local health infrastructure, distance to quality schooling, city or village, "last bus" or "last train", frequency of connections

Your choice will be mostly limited by availability of properties and your need to actually find (any) accommodation within the time frame available to you.

I can only add the suggestion to also consider the map of noise emission by Zurich airport, to overlay with the network maps of ZVV and SBB - and then going hunting at http://www.comparis.ch/ - just one random example being https://www.comparis.ch/immobilien/m...hnung/12518059

This leaves then the hard leg work to you or to the (hopefully qualified) relocation agent that you might be retaining.

FWIW - I suspect that there are no "best kept secrets" (left) in the greater Zurich area. Rents, taxes, cost of transport, cost of health insurance (all determined by your place of residence) all tend to balance out across the region - and they are very specific to your individual situation in top.
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Also need your income, religious confession, shoe size (joking about shoe size)

Baden is 15 mins direct to Zurich HB, and 15 mins gentle walk to Poststrasse. Accommodation is much cheaper than Zurich, has more convenient shopping (good for shoes, wide range, good prices for Switzerland), less pollution, schools can be very good, etc. Taxes are usually higher though, hence the other questions.

www.sbb.ch is what most people use for routeplanning.

But Baden is full with Aargauer-Agglos
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Re: The 30 minute commute (ZH)

I never lived there, but Hombrechtikon has the nice Lützelsee.... otherwise maybe Brugg might be cheaper (i worked there once, ok it's Aargau, but you can also access the job market in Basel and possibly Bern). It also has a kick ass indy cinema.
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Re: The 30 minute commute (ZH)

There's such a huge variety within a half hour of Zürich. We wanted something in the countryside, so while I'm only a half hour from the airport, we live in vinyards, near a nice river, with the sounds of sheep and chickens in the backyard. It also takes me less time to get to work than it does for some of my coworkers who actually live in the city.
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Re: The 30 minute commute (ZH)

The rents in Baden town itself have become much more expensive in recent years - I'm told that they are equal to those in Zurich. I don't know about the outlying areas of Baden. Perhaps those are lower, but then you are adding to the communte time.
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That map looks like just the thing. Thank you.

So all that remains is to navigate within the green zones to are nice places to live for people in our situation (with a focus on kids rather than us).

We're a family of four, need 3 bedrooms and (I guess) about 120 sqm. (I thought I'd been clear about kids with my reference to tweens, schools etc...?)

We have some flexibility with budget since we probably won't go with international schools. I know taxes can vary greatly by canton and commune, but assume some of that is balanced by rents, transport costs, etc? Or are there places where no such trade off occurs?

Anyway, if anyone is happy to share their "best kept secret" spots (Hongg, for instance, looks gorgeous, and I'd never heard of it!) we'd be thrilled to lend you a cup of sugar sometime.

I can't think how you people found out about my shoe fetish...
What "situation"??

How old are the children? What do they like doing? (At least you have clarified that they will go into local schools). Children "grow up" in every hamlet, village, town and city - so you'll need to be more specific.

Budget is also important - if you can afford 4,000chf per month then you have a huge choice - but if your budget is 2,000chf and you absolutely must have a house then it is far more limited.

The whole of Switzerland could be described as "nice". There are some grottier towns but even they will have nice areas.

For example: Meilen is a beautiful small town and would be ideal - but if your budget is smaller you may find Uster a better bet.
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The rents in Baden town itself have become much more expensive in recent years - I'm told that they are equal to those in Zurich. I don't know about the outlying areas of Baden. Perhaps those are lower, but then you are adding to the communte time.
Also commute time to ZH HB is one thing, but if from the HB you have to go Witikon, Adliswil, or somewhere else it's not that simple. You did say Poststrasse, and if you do want to end up there for work/studies/whatever, the above stand.

But if you have to work in Adliswil for example, beyond the obvious choice of living there, you can also think about everything on the S4 line.
Similary for working in Oerlikon/Alstetten that also have train stations.

As everyone said then, SBB is your friend.
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Re: The 30 minute commute (ZH)

If you have a kids first focus, I would look at schools that will quickly integrate your kids, outside activities, and perhaps extend this to 40 to 45 minutes commute! Trains are really reliable and comfortable here. You can get some work done on them too. 15 mins on a train is a bit too short to get into work. We left Baden because of school issues actually.

Perhaps one of you should move over and start working, and the family then follow and spend the entire school holidays plus the first month of the next term here looking for the right place. This way you know the areas you like and can see the schools in action.
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