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How to deal with a Blackbird's nest?

Well it appears that an amorous couple of Blackbirds have decided to set up a nest in a window box right outside our kitchen window, and there are 3 eggs already, so I'm wondering about the best way of dealing with it.

By dealing with it I don't mean scaring them off and then bunging the nest off the window. I mean how best to allow them to bring up their kids. What we've done so far is to sneakily block the lower half of the window, while they were both away, so that we don't disturb them when doing things in the kitchen, but we can still peer over and see them. I guess this is probably enough, but any suggestions on what to do further would be appreciated.

I do hope they manage to hatch their young uns.

It's going to be an interesting spring
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Re: How to deal with a Blackbird's nest?

I think you are doing just about everything possible. As it is close to the kitchen just watch out that there isn't anything that could transmit infection etc. indoors.

You could possible set up a remote camera
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Re: How to deal with a Blackbird's nest?

Just watch for when it starts talking like Pericles

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I think you are doing just about everything possible. As it is close to the kitchen just watch out that there isn't anything that could transmit infection etc. indoors.

You could possible set up a remote camera
The window is now going to have to stay closed so I doubt there's much chance of any nasty bugs getting in. As far as setting up a camera is concerned I think it's now far too late for that - I really really do not want to disturb them.
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Re: How to deal with a Blackbird's nest?

Thats damn near the cheesiest video I have ever watched, is it serious? He he he, never mind just saw its a fan compilation from a TV series, still bizarre...


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Re: How to deal with a Blackbird's nest?

Can you sing, and do you have any old sixpences?
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Re: How to deal with a Blackbird's nest?

My understanding is the blackbirds don't keep their young in the nest for very long. The chicks get thrown out of the nest long before they have the ability to fly (the chicks get too big for the nest quite quickly and furthermore the nest is too full of poop to be a suitable place to rear them). The chicks will then shelter under bushes and things where the parents will feed them until they are sufficiently developed to fly.

So maybe you could be thinking about whether they can safely fall out of the nest and whether there is a safe and obvious passage that the parents can use to herd their young to the nearest suitable bushes.

Also, crows and magpies like to prey on blackbird nests, taking both the eggs and young chicks. So keep an eye on any birds that may be eyeing up the nest.
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Re: How to deal with a Blackbird's nest?

Me, I'd point an IP webcam at the nest (old smartphone if you have one kicking around), and block the whole rest of the window. Use a roll of that stick-on privacy film they sell in Jumbo etc so that you still get as much light as possible.

Then you can watch them as much as you like - and from anywhere in the house - without worrying about disturbing them.

(My guess is if they were going to be as easily disturbed as all that though, they wouldn't have set up housekeeping in a window box.)
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Thats damn near the cheesiest video I have ever watched, is it serious? He he he, never mind just saw its a fan compilation from a TV series, still bizarre...
The song makes sense in terms of the entire run (7 seasons) - but that fan compliation doesn't really do it justice.

Apparently Jax Teller has the highest murder count of any lead TV character
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My understanding is the blackbirds don't keep their young in the nest for very long. The chicks get thrown out of the nest long before they have the ability to fly (the chicks get too big for the nest quite quickly and furthermore the nest is too full of poop to be a suitable place to rear them). The chicks will then shelter under bushes and things where the parents will feed them until they are sufficiently developed to fly.

So maybe you could be thinking about whether they can safely fall out of the nest and whether there is a safe and obvious passage that the parents can use to herd their young to the nearest suitable bushes.

Also, crows and magpies like to prey on blackbird nests, taking both the eggs and young chicks. So keep an eye on any birds that may be eyeing up the nest.
Bugger - it's a 3 floor drop onto solid concrete where I don't have access to, and if by some miracle they survive that there are more than enough cats on patrol to finish them off.

Ah well, there's not much I can really do about that now. Nature is hard.
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Re: How to deal with a Blackbird's nest?

Put a net underneath the nest and hope the Big Push occurs on an evening/weekend when you're around?

All I can think of. Poor mama bird
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Put a net underneath the nest and hope the Big Push occurs on an evening/weekend when you're around?

All I can think of. Poor mama bird
You were a bit quick in your reply, MN. I edited my post to say that I don't have access to area where they're going to fall.
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Re: How to deal with a Blackbird's nest?

Haven't you got an an adjacent window you could climb out of, absail down the building and install a nice safe hammock underneath for them to fall into?
You've got to think of those poor babies and be creative in your attempts to protect them.

( realistically you've probably actually done as much as you can to protect them and you'll just have to let nature take it's course)
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Bugger - it's a 3 floor drop onto solid concrete where I don't have access to, and if by some miracle they survive that there are more than enough cats on patrol to finish them off.

Ah well, there's not much I can really do about that now. Nature is hard.
They should be OK in most circumstances but, as you say, sometimes nature wins

http://www.rspb.org.uk/discoveranden...d/nesting.aspx
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Re: How to deal with a Blackbird's nest?

You may want to contact your local "Vogelwarte" or "Tierschutzverein" (google for what's near you). They may ask you to bring them after hatching, but before they leave the nest and raise them until they've become independent (meaning until they're three weeks old).
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Re: How to deal with a Blackbird's nest?

Neither will get involved, and quite right too. Nature will take its course, and hopefully the fledglings will all make it to safety- but in nature that is rare.

Well done you for letting them be and minimising disturbance- I was quite worried when i first saw the thread in case you wanted to destroy it. Bravo- and everything crossed. Can't wait to hear the news, hopefully good.
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Neither will get involved, and quite right too. Nature will take its course, and hopefully the fledglings will all make it to safety- but in nature that is rare.
Just plain wrong.

For instance Vogelwarte Sempach (vogelwarte.ch):
"Vom gewöhnlichen Sperling bis zum seltenen Kiebitz: Alle Wildvögel erhalten in der Pflegestation erste Hilfe und eine geeignete Unterkunft, bis sie wieder in die Freiheit entlassen werden können[..]Die Mehrheit bilden aber verwaiste Jungvögel. "

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Every wild bird is accepted, taken care of [that may even include medical clinical procedures] and fed until he's fit to be left free. Most birds we take in are young orphaned birds.

In all likelihood there's a Vogelwarte or comparable reasonably close by anywhere in ZH.

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Vogelwarte Sempach also provide info on whom to contact in your vicinity: 041 462 97 00
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Neither will get involved, and quite right too. Nature will take its course, and hopefully the fledglings will all make it to safety- but in nature that is rare.

Well done you for letting them be and minimising disturbance- I was quite worried when i first saw the thread in case you wanted to destroy it. Bravo- and everything crossed. Can't wait to hear the news, hopefully good.
Well Frau Blackbird is now sitting on the nest pretty much permanently, other than for short hops away - my GF has told me there are now 4 eggs. From what I've read up on blackbirds, and your comments left on my rep, I figure they're about a week to a week and a half away from hatching, and creating a noisy hell for the neighbours

I haven't seen much of Herr Blackbird, but apparently he comes into play looking after the little ones once they've fledged while Frau Blackbird re-nests
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You may want to contact your local "Vogelwarte" or "Tierschutzverein" (google for what's near you). They may ask you to bring them after hatching, but before they leave the nest and raise them until they've become independent (meaning until they're three weeks old).
They will definitely not allow tiny birds to be taken out of the nest and away from caring parents- to be raised, just in case they fall out of the nest, I can assure you (and quite rightly so).
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Just plain wrong.

For instance Vogelwarte Sempach (vogelwarte.ch):
"Vom gewöhnlichen Sperling bis zum seltenen Kiebitz: Alle Wildvögel erhalten in der Pflegestation erste Hilfe und eine geeignete Unterkunft, bis sie wieder in die Freiheit entlassen werden können[..]Die Mehrheit bilden aber verwaiste Jungvögel. "

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Every wild bird is accepted, taken care of [that may even include medical clinical procedures] and fed until he's fit to be left free. Most birds we take in are young orphaned birds.

In all likelihood there's a Vogelwarte or comparable reasonably close by anywhere in ZH.

Edit:
Vogelwarte Sempach also provide info on whom to contact in your vicinity: 041 462 97 00
Orphaned birds yes, fledglings taken out of a perfectly good nest being looked after by their parents - no. If both the parents got caught by cats or otherwise killed then Slaphead could then take the orphaned fledglings to a sanctuary.
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