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Re: Loud TV at night - neighbour - what to do?

I am quite surprised by how many posters first advice is "go to the police" for a TV being too loud.
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Old 17.04.2015, 12:48
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Re: Loud TV at night - neighbour - what to do?

Not sure I would be opening my door at ca 10pm at night. He might have thought it was the TV, or wondered if the type of person who fell asleep in front of tv, woke up and turned sound down!

Try and get hold of him/her during the daytime early evening or if you are both around this weekend.

I would do nothing until spoke to the person in person or if could not get hold, then would do it in writing as politely as possible.

Hope once they know a problem matter is peacefully resolved.
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My neighbours kids can be quite loud and the wall separating our houses seems to be paper thin. One of the kids has a tendancy to scream at the top of her lungs (for whatever reason). I've noticied that the kids now stay up later than previously (as they are getting older I guess!) and at times have to listen to this girl screaming at 11 pm or later. I'm not sure what her issue is but if I call the police about this, will they do anything?
When we moved into our apartment our neighbours were up like a shot because of our children stomping around! We were genuinely sorry and explained that we had had our own house in the UK and didn't even think about it and that we were training our children to tread quietly. Now a few months the neighbours are very nice to us as they could obviously tell that we were working hard to resolve the issue. But at the time it was awful for us we constantly told our girls to be quiet , the youngest was two and 11 months now four months on she understands more.
Although we felt annoyed when we visited other people and their kids were twice as noisy and yet they had had no complaints!!! People were shocked that our neighbours had complained but I just explained that I understood because at the end of the day it's their home and they do not want to listen to constant thuds from our girls. I'm so glad that I was so polite etc and tried so hard because now I know if they are a bit noisy on occasion it's ok because they know that we tried. Unfortunately we gave the girls the larger bedroom as we figured that they could keep all of their toys etc there and play nicely and as this room is above their bedroom and at 730am on a sunday morning , their playing was not welcomed!!!!


If they had called the police then what could we have done? Strapped the girls to chairs???

My point is some children just scream or stamp etc out of communication , we have managed to train ours - excuse the saying train but that's what we have done. I really think you need to go across to your nieghbours and speak very kindly to them, at the end of the day these are their children and anything you say will automatically get their backs up so if you are kind and ask them if there's anything you can do to help the situation then after a while it should improve. It's awful feeling that your kids are bothering people. Our neighbours offered us the option to say that they will tell them off etc and we agreed to do so lightly as I explained that we didn't want our kids being scared of them as later on it might backfire on us all!!!

I hope that this helps. If not I would contact the landlord as I know that another neighbour had a similar problem and the Landlord moved them to a bigger apartment in the same area where they would not bother the neighbours as much. Everybody won in that case.

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I am quite surprised by how many posters first advice is "go to the police" for a TV being too loud.
No, it's not first advice. If you read carefully most of us say: FIRST resolve the issue directly with the neighbour by means of direct communication. Then, if this doesn't work reach for further alternatives.

marmsg asked 'what to do' so we give him solutions of what can be done, simple.
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No, it's not first advice. If you read carefully most of us say: FIRST resolve the issue directly with the neighbour by means of direct communication. Then, if this doesn't work reach for further alternatives.

marmsg asked 'what to do' so we give him solutions of what can be done, simple.
you recommended leaving a sticker three times and then going to the police. This is hardly the direct approach. What is wrong with knocking on the neighbour's door and asking them nicely?
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you recommended leaving a sticker three times and then going to the police. This is hardly the direct approach. What is wrong with knocking on the neighbour's door and asking them nicely?

Nothing is wrong with that.

In fact, marmsg already said that 'I will approach him friendly but if it doesn't work I would like to know what you would do.' .

Therefore I am giving possible solutions of what could be done when OP's solution does not work. Starting with a written note is not an aggressive move. Then, if no results are seen following all the above attempts, OP has right to make an official complaint.
That is why there is legislation in place so people don't have to worry they are helpless.

Wouldn't you agree?
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Old 17.04.2015, 15:00
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Why wouldn't you be? I'm usually asleep sometime around 11pm - and up and about around 6am.
Because we often finish dinner around 22h, and of course don't go immediately to bed!

Usually, it's to bed 23:30-0:00, and up at 7ish (I'm supposed to be at work at 7:30).

And my wife complains that I go to bed too early!

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Because some of us a up at 4:30 in order to leave for work at 5:30
It takes you an hour to get ready for work?

Are you a woman?

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Nothing is wrong with that.

In fact, marmsg already said that 'I will approach him friendly but if it doesn't work I would like to know what you would do.' .

Therefore I am giving possible solutions of what could be done when OP's solution does not work. Starting with a written note is not an aggressive move. Then, if no results are seen following all the above attempts, OP has right to make an official complaint.
That is why there is legislation in place so people don't have to worry they are helpless.

Wouldn't you agree?
I think a written note is aggressive because written notes, sms, emails never can deliver the real tone of what one is trying to deliver. A polite tap on the door followed up with a nice conversation should always be the first call. A second response should be another conversation. If this fails, then I would go along with your approach. It's always best to get along with one's neighbour's. Your comments on the legislation are fine, thanks
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Re: Loud TV at night - neighbour - what to do?

We had a similar issue, but never resolved it.

The old guy upstairs was basically a cantankerous git who complained about everything (shoes outside door, kids not walking silently in hallway, us not being Swiss, breathing the air on his planet) but had his TV on really loud until midnight.

Us complaining didn't make any difference, but at least when we spoke to our neighbours in the building we found everyone else (flat owners, Swiss) thought the same and we felt slightly better wondering how long he had left... shame they wouldn't understand a Victor Meldrew reference.

In the end we moved out (not due to this!), and in the meantime I responded to his frequent aggressive complaints by just telling him to go away and not talk to me. His wife was lovely, which gave slightly strange "Grüezi Grüezi mutter mutter mutter Geh weg, sprich mir nicht" meetings on the stairs.
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Re: Loud TV at night - neighbour - what to do?

here's a list of all the occasions when we had to tell our neighbours to " shut up".

1. we have a hobby room under our apartment. Someone new came and he was a hobby woodworker with a very loud electric saw. After complaining to the Landlords he quickly vanished.
2. The next person in the hobby room was our neighbours son. He installed a punching bag and it was hung from the ceiling under my bed. Another complaint to our neighbours and he stopped.
3. We had some new people move in above us. He had this mechanical " rowing " device so he could keep fit. It made a hell of a noise and he used to "row" in the evening. Another complaint by us and he gave his rowing up.
4. His child would play with these wooden balls and we could hear these banging loudly on the wooden floor at 6 O'clock on a Sunday morning. Another complaint.

Well I could go on and on but thats enough.Complain -and direct to him- not with a wishy-washy note on his door. He might also be blind as well as deaf.
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Re: Loud TV at night - neighbour - what to do?

I also have the same issue and have found that the best solution is finding good in-ear-plugs for sleeping at night.
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Re: Loud TV at night - neighbour - what to do?

Whatever you do:
Make a spreadsheet on when the music is too loud. If you end up complaining to the agency that will give it much more importance. And do make sure you're in the right by consulting your Hausordnung on what it says about quiet times.

I wouldn't do notes, at least not in the beginning, as it's much more difficult to dismiss humans than a sheet of paper. Talk to your neighbor while you're still calm. Repeat up to maybe three times. After that I wouldn't refrain from banging on his door (I used the rear end of a big-ish screwdriver with plastic handle when I did, no use ruining your knuckles or the door) when he's loud, again repeat up to three times.

If that doesn't work I'd give him some of his own medicine. Since you're in bed early you're probably up early, too, at which time he's most probably still asleep. Perhaps get up an hour earlier than usual and turn up the volume real good. Talk to him the very same evening, if you miss him I would put a note. Again, repeat up to three times, perhaps increase volume. Picking a morning after he was loud might be especially useful as that probably means he went to bed late.

Talking to your other neighbors before the latter would be a nice idea, explain your plans ahead of time, you may even get support (important for the following letter). My next step would have been a letter by registered mail to the agency, with whatever signatures of fellow renters I would get (all four in my case, luckily), but thankfully that turned out to be unnecessary.
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Re: Loud TV at night - neighbour - what to do?

Swiss neighbor would likely leave a note or go to the police. i have found the local approach above will vary based on age...

in my opinion, if they are swiss, knocking on the door could be deemed confrontational. write a note in german...
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